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June 05, 2018, 10:37:09 PM +0100 - Mosport - UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1966 F1
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 7 +1.720
102.954mph
1 49:06.876
102.156mph
34 1:25.607
103.428mph
Firestone  
AnGex
 Black Night Racing
Cooper T81 (Maserati) F1 1966 6 +1.300
103.460mph
2 +0.680
102.133mph
34 1:25.671
103.351mph
Firestone  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1966) F1 1966 4 +1.126
103.670mph
3 +0.990
102.122mph
34 1:25.249
103.863mph
Firestone  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 8 +1.855
102.793mph
4 (+2) +32.984
101.026mph
34 1:26.339
102.551mph
Goodyear  
MagicArsouille
 
Brabham BT11 (BRM V8) F1 1966 1 1:24.281
105.055mph
5 +36.062
100.921mph
34 1:23.608
105.901mph
Goodyear  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
McLaren M2B (Ford) F1 1966 12 +4.499
99.732mph
6 +1L
98.038mph
33 1:26.809
101.996mph
Firestone  
Jack O'Ferrall
 Reed Racing
BRM P261 (1966) F1 1966 11 +3.824
100.496mph
7 +29.432
97.079mph
33 1:28.732
99.786mph
Goodyear  
DLogan
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1966) F1 1966 14 8 +3L
95.625mph
31 1:25.639
103.390mph
Firestone  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 9 +2.052
102.558mph
9 +6L
98.820mph
28 1:26.535
102.319mph
Disco
Firestone  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1966) F1 1966 5 +1.136
103.658mph
10 +18L
94.535mph
16 1:26.052
102.893mph
Disco
Firestone  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT11 (BRM V8) F1 1966 2 +0.230
104.770mph
11 +29L
100.287mph
5 1:24.860
104.339mph
Disco
Goodyear  
bagrupp
 Team Groundhog
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 10 +3.180
101.236mph
12 +14.379
97.124mph
5 1:28.267
100.311mph
Disco
Firestone  
DLogan
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1966) F1 1966 3 +0.681
104.213mph
13 DNS ---
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Firestone  
60fps UKGPL8
 
BRM P83 F1 1966 13 14 ---
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Goodyear  

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Server replay time: 0h08m45s

Only one incident have been reported, it occured on lap 6 (around 8 min45 sec after the start of the race) and it involved Clive and Francesco.
Without any doubt this is a blatant side by side contact (=penalty 2 places).
The overtaking driver (Clive) has achieved more than 100% overlap but the overtaken driver (Fran) move accross him.
There was no loss of control at all

Clive did no mistakes and overtook Francesco without taking risks.

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« on: June 03, 2018, 11:47:45 PM +0100 »

Season 33 Historic Trophy - Round 2 – Mosport

Mosport held its first major race in 1961, when Stirling Moss, who won, suggested changes to the proposed hairpin, which then became the two corners called Moss in his honour. The first ever Canadian Grand Prix was held at Mosport in 1967 and was won by Jack Brabham.  The circuit was used again in 1969 in a race won by Jackie Ickx.  Jackie Stewart crashed out after tangling with a back marker, the privateer Al Pease, who was being lapped for the fourth time at only half distance.  At the end of the race, Al Pease was disqualified and to this day remains the only driver to be disqualified for being too slow.

The full time drivers can start to practice as soon as the server is available.  Reserve drivers can also join as soon as the server becomes available but must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 5 minutes; this will allow any remaining full timers to join.  If there is enough space on the grid, the reserve drivers will be able to rejoin when there are 30 mins of qualifying left.  

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Race List =  IGOR
Server = UKGPL_8
IP Address = look at IGOR
Race date = 05-06-2018
GPL mod = 66F1
60fps patch used = 60fpsV2newmod
Track = Mosport
Qualification = 20:45  UK time -> 45min
Race = race starts at ~21:30 UK time
Race length = ~50 min -> 34 laps
Damage Model = PRO
Replay = here

Drivers must complete 50% of each race to score.
Only reported incidents will be moderated, there is no Red Zone.

Handicapping and chassis allocation.
This season the Historics will be using a token system which allows drivers to purchase any chassis of their choice, 2 litre or 3 litre, for a given number of tokens as published on the championship standings page. Drivers classed as Amateurs will be allocated an additional 10 tokens.  The token allocation will not be managed in SRou this season so (unlike the 67F1 Works and 67F1 Privateer divisions) the tokens available to each driver will not appear in the championship table (when the mouse pointer is hovered over the driver's total).  Rather, the available tokens will be published in the race announcement.  See below.

Available Tokens:
Note: These are the tokens available to each driver before the 10 tokens are added for making the race start.

Driver   TokensStatus
AnGex   
8
Pro
bagrup
14
Pro
Billy Nobrakes   
20
Am
Cookie
10
Pro
DLogan   
16
Pro
Doni Yourth   
16
Pro
EvilClive
16
Pro
francesco   
20
Am
Phil Thornton
24
Am
Rainier
24
Am
Gareth   
20
Am


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« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2018, 11:00:03 PM +0100 »

The fast guys showed up and took my cheapest-car possible pole away  Angry.

Had a lot of fun starting from the back (for those who are curious: I get involved in a lot less lap 1 incidents, I have some fun passing slower traffic, and it usually doesn't affect my finishing position), chasing Dave through the field until we caught up to Andreas and Doni. That scrap then went on for the remainder, but I fell out lap 23ish after the Climax *really bad joke deleted* and was quite impotent until expiring at the line with one left.
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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2018, 11:05:36 PM +0100 »

I've loaded the chassis the drivers used into the token calculator spreadsheet.  For the next race the available tokens will be as declared in the table below (the table will also appear in the next race announcement).  The calculated values are automated but selecting the cars is a manual process so please check your tokens to make sure I haven't made a silly error.  There was no token overspend for this round so no one is disqualified.

Available Tokens:
Note: These are the tokens available to each driver before the 10 tokens are added for making the race start.

Driver   TokensStatus
AnGex
6
Pro
bagrupp
18
Pro
Billy Nobrakes
14
Am
Cookie
17
Pro
DLogan
23
Pro
Doni Yourth
23
Pro
EvilClive
18
Pro
francesco   
20
Am
Phil Thornton
29
Am
Rainier
28
Am
Gareth
20
Am
Tristan Bot
12
Pro
Jack O'Ferrall
23
Am
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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2018, 11:11:18 PM +0100 »

Grats David on a brilliant drive. Tris was unlucky but to finish first, first you have to finish.

Hard luck Bill. There was no way I was going to catch you!
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« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2018, 09:01:57 AM +0100 »

Thanks Phil.

This should be my first win in UKGPL 66 series !
Tristan and Evil were unlucky. They dominated the race before they had troubles.

From first to last lap, I was fighting with Andreas and Doni (also with Dean on the first part of the race).
I could overtake Doni with his underpowered Climax but I thought it will not be possible against Andreas big V12 Maserati ...until he did a very little mistake (at Moss ?) with only 5 laps to go.
The 5 last laps were very hard, i only tried (and succeed) to do no mistakes.
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« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2018, 12:56:36 PM +0100 »

Still - many problems with the new G29 wheel and just not in the mood to race.
Should have already gone to bed.
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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2018, 12:59:21 PM +0100 »

Dave Rainier?  DAVE RAINIER???   Shocked

WOOOHOOO!!!  Hearty congratulations to Dave on a super win.  As a driver whom I think has improved considerably in his GPL skills over the last couple of seasons here at the UK, I bow to a drive that was near-faultless and certainly, had me bested.  Well done, DR.

Great run for Andreas to score P2!  Again, well done.

Frankly, a lucky P3 for me as Tris, Clive & Dean fell afoul of the gods.

I have to say that I had a good laugh on joining the server to find no less than three of us had selected the bone-slow Lotus 33 with Coventry-Climax power.  Did Dean, Cookie and I know something that the others didn't?  No, I suppose not but my rationale was to spend less to amass tokens and take a lesser result on a circuit that I typically do well on.  That should be no surprise.  I was born & raised just 20 minutes down the road in Bowmanville and spent my youth at the 'Happy Track'.

I bungled the start and almost lost a position to Andreas.  Lucky to hold him off.  Up the Andretti Straight on the first lap, I kinda blocked AG somewhat not by design but rather by surprise at just how much faster his Cooper was in a straight line.  I recognized that my Lotus was rather a stone by comparison but by that much?  Geeezzz...  Next lap, Andreas was by comfortably.

I then had Dave nipping at my heals and making serious his desire to pass.  Only by holding to the right up the back straight til we arrived at T8 did I stave him off for many a lap.  Ultimately, though, he got the run he needed and I had little choice but to yield the position.  Nice, workmanlike job on the pass, DR.

Dean then filled my mirrors and considering our recent races, I had to wonder how long it would be before I'd be junked.  Ahem...  Thankfully, a little more restraint on his part allowed us both to continue til his engine went sour.  I couldn't help but hear him rowing through the gears behind me and took some satisfaction in setting up my Lotus to run from a change-up to 3rd gear on the pit straight and being able to hold it all the way down to the Moss hairpin.  Being a lazy old goat has its advantages.  I'm also a firm believer in less is more.  Smiley

The laps reeled off and try as I might, the Lotus was just handcuffed on the Andretti Straight and all I could hope for would be a mistake from Andreas and Dave.  AG did swing a bit wide in the hairpin on a late lap to open the door for Dave and he was through for P2.  I was all set for a P4 finish...and quite satisfied with it all things considered...when suddenly, my pit board was showing me as P3.  Huh  Tris, our runaway leader, lunched his engine to the point that it would barely do 100mph on the back straight.  The BRM power unit is robust but not indestructible, mon ami.

Got down to the last laps and the freight train continued to the flag with the three of us...Dave, Andreas and myself...crossing the line with less than a one second spread.  Great finish!

Fran did well to score a P4.  Billy with very bad luck in shunting off late in the going(and causing the lead serial a serious fright as it was just in front of us!).  Axel a dreadful result after starting from the pits.  Groan...

Once again, grats to Dave!  Smiley


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« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2018, 02:22:36 PM +0100 »

From my opinion, I think the Ferrari 246 was a quite perfect compromise, for this kind of tracks, between the quick but heavy 3 liters and the agile but slow Climax 2 l.
In the same category, I will place BRM 261, Brabham 2,5L and 2,7L.

Not sure, I have considerably improve my GPL skills on the last years (...just ask Dean after Silverstone on last season).
But yesterday evening, I felt sure of myself in this car which seemed to be perfectly set up.   


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« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2018, 06:57:10 PM +0100 »

Well done David on a well deserved win  thumbup1
I suspect many of us have noticed your increase in pace over the last 12 months. You were always a very careful and consistent driver, but now you have found that extra speed it means that you are a contender for the podium in all races.

From my end I was hoping to score some serious points at Mosport, which is one of my favourites in the 2ltr Brabham.......also a favourite with Tris too!! lol
I'm not sure what happened to Tris when the race started??? but he just crawled off the grid and I was able to take the lead into T1. I knew that he would soon be chasing me so I was keen to build a gap if I could. I was looking in my mirrors when I should have been concentrating on the next corner and missed my braking point at the end of the straight and ran wide.....no damage except to my pride, but it dropped me back behind Dean.

I worked a pass on Dean, although I suspect that he only put up half a fight? Then I caught a group of cars that were in close combat with Fran running at the rear. I followed for a lap but as always there are few real passing opportunities at Mosport unless the car in front makes a mistake. I was following closely and a gap appeared at T3 when he ran wide. I tucked back to the inside and nailed the gas , with a glance to my left as I drew level. The downhill T4 was going to be interesting...could I hold the outside line and take the inside for Moss?
Well, I never got to find out  Undecided because before we got to the crest I was airborne and when I landed I only had 3 wheels on a car that was across the track...so I pounded the ESC key to avoid taking anyone else with me.....race over.  Sad
Grats to the podium and all finishers.
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« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2018, 08:07:18 PM +0100 »

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From first to last lap, I was fighting with Andreas and Doni (also with Dean on the first part of the race).
I could overtake Doni with his underpowered Climax but I thought it will not be possible against Andreas big V12 Maserati ...until he did a very little mistake (at Moss ?) with only 5 laps to go.
The 5 last laps were very hard, i only tried (and succeed) to do no mistakes.

Yeah, that was a good race from start to finish! Congratulations to the finishers. Did not recognize that you were in the little Ferrari with only 6 Cylinders and 3 Carburettors.  Smiley Only wondered why you were not faster at the straights.  Huh Now I know. Was pressing all the time for you to make a mistake. But you showed a solid performance. Well done!  thumbup1
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« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2018, 05:35:15 AM +0100 »

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I worked a pass on Dean, although I suspect that he only put up half a fight? Then I caught a group of cars that were in close combat with Fran running at the rear. I followed for a lap but as always there are few real passing opportunities at Mosport unless the car in front makes a mistake. I was following closely and a gap appeared at T3 when he ran wide. I tucked back to the inside and nailed the gas , with a glance to my left as I drew level. The downhill T4 was going to be interesting...could I hold the outside line and take the inside for Moss?
Well, I never got to find out  Undecided because before we got to the crest I was airborne and when I landed I only had 3 wheels on a car that was across the track...so I pounded the ESC key to avoid taking anyone else with me.....race over.  Sad
Grats to the podium and all finishers.
i'm sorry for this.Immediately after the curve i lost your car from my mirror.I imagined that you was very close somewhere but behind,instead you was on the flank.From the replay no one could see the other.i have mantained my racing line anaware to go against a collision.I was lucky because my airborn was without mechanical consequences,the only consequence was to have lost the contact with the group at the head of the race but is not so important.
Following Rainier i was a little large into the curve and i understand you having seen an opportunity but ,as you say,on this track is difficult to pass and,IMO,in this point in very dangerous.
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« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2018, 05:32:18 PM +0100 »

Clive isn't evil.

I am.

I let him pass, because I knew no one was getting past Fran without contact, and I didn't want to lose the points (again).

It only took a lap of hanging back, and avoiding the inevitable when it happened.

Hopefully, someone will learn something from this, like "you have NO right to any portion of the track another car is already occupying, and contact from moving BLIND across the track will be YOUR fault and no one else's", but I ain't holding my breath.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2018, 10:32:18 AM +0100 »

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