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  • A13 Vallelunga: October 03, 2018
October 03, 2018, 08:00:00 PM +0100 - Vallelunga (2003-2004) - UKAC Season 13 TCR Series
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
SEAT León {unknown} 1 1:14.538
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1 20:12.995
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16 1:14.766
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Hankook  
Jeffrey
 
Honda Civic TCR TCR 3 +0.210
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2 +0.613
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16 1:14.757
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Hankook  
Itamar Yativ
 CORE Racing
Subaru WRX TCR TCR 2 +0.198
---
3 +1.221
---
16 1:14.925
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Hankook  
Fabri Fibra
 Magnesium Team
VW Golf TCR TCR 4 +0.419
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4 +7.993
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16 1:15.255
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Hankook  
KDiesel
 
Alfa Romeo Giulietta TCR TCR 9 +1.004
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5 +15.342
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16 1:15.494
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Hankook  
Stefan aka Postal
 Legends Racing
Alfa Romeo Giulietta TCR TCR 11 +1.204
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6 +16.139
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16 1:15.596
---
Hankook  
nfsw55
 
Alfa Romeo Giulietta TCR TCR 7 +0.522
---
7 (+2) +18.150
---
16 1:15.365
---
Hankook  
Manteos
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Honda Civic TCR TCR 8 +0.800
---
8 +19.217
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16 1:15.569
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Hankook  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Alfa Romeo Giulietta TCR TCR 10 +1.090
---
9 +30.194
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16 1:15.708
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Hankook  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Mercedes A45 AMG TCR TCR 19 +2.062
---
10 +38.681
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16 1:15.900
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Hankook  
spanner
 Prodigy Racing
VW Golf TCR TCR 14 +1.358
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11 +39.805
---
16 1:15.802
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Hankook  
picnic
 Team Shark
Subaru WRX TCR TCR 12 +1.344
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12 +40.859
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16 1:15.997
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Hankook  
kaifos
 HDR Racing
VW Golf TCR TCR 6 +0.508
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13 +41.601
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16 1:15.378
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Hankook  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Mercedes A45 AMG TCR TCR 20 +2.177
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14 +44.694
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16 1:16.973
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Hankook  
Syd Drake
 Drake Racing
Audi RS3 TCR TCR 15 +1.470
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15 +49.527
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16 1:16.754
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Hankook  
Baikal
 
Subaru WRX TCR TCR 5 +0.483
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16 +51.725
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16 1:15.547
---
Hankook  
L4de
 
Opel Astra TCR TCR 18 +1.944
---
17 +51.982
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16 1:16.939
---
Hankook  
Sutol
 
Honda Civic TCR TCR 16 +1.479
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18 +54.530
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16 1:16.305
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Hankook  
frex
 Kerb Crawlers
Opel Astra TCR TCR 13 +1.354
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19 +55.298
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16 1:16.447
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Hankook  
SRW
 Prodigy Racing
Ford Focus TCR TCR 20 +1L
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15 1:18.167
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Hankook  
Bob
 WSL Racing Team
Honda Civic TCR TCR 17 +1.898
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21 +11L
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5 1:16.122
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Hankook  

Moderator's Report

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RACE 1, TURN 1, LAP 4.

As the field head down towards turn 4, nsfw appears to leave his braking too late on cold tyres and brakes and hits Baikal from behind. This pushes Baikal into Kai and causes collisions with at least 4 cars and causes others to leave the track to avoid the pile up resulting in many lost race positions, whilst nfsw is able to continue on completely un-scathed.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Assetto Corsa
{unknown}
1:14.538
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FullMetalGasket
Qualifying
SEAT LeónOctober 03, 2018, 08:00:00 PM +0100
A13
Assetto Corsa
{unknown}
1:14.766
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FullMetalGasket
Race
SEAT LeónOctober 03, 2018, 08:00:00 PM +0100
A13
Assetto Corsa
TCR
1:14.736
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Itamar Yativ
Qualifying
Subaru WRX TCROctober 03, 2018, 08:00:00 PM +0100
A13
Assetto Corsa
TCR
1:14.757
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Jeffrey
Race
Honda Civic TCROctober 03, 2018, 08:00:00 PM +0100
A13
October 03, 2018, 09:00:00 PM +0100 - Vallelunga (2003-2004) - UKAC Season 13 TCR Series
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Jeffrey
 
Honda Civic TCR TCR 4 1 20:20.596
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16 1:15.099
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Hankook  
nfsw55
 
Alfa Romeo Giulietta TCR TCR 9 2 +8.779
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16 1:15.549
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Hankook  
kaifos
 HDR Racing
VW Golf TCR TCR 13 3 +8.892
---
16 1:15.305
---
Hankook  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Mercedes A45 AMG TCR TCR 1 4 +9.483
---
16 1:15.805
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Hankook  
Manteos
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Honda Civic TCR TCR 10 5 +9.900
---
16 1:15.261
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Hankook  
Fabri Fibra
 Magnesium Team
VW Golf TCR TCR 6 6 +10.182
---
16 1:15.334
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Hankook  
Stefan aka Postal
 Legends Racing
Alfa Romeo Giulietta TCR TCR 8 7 +12.943
---
16 1:15.566
---
Hankook  
KDiesel
 
Alfa Romeo Giulietta TCR TCR 7 8 +15.198
---
16 1:15.542
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Hankook  
Itamar Yativ
 CORE Racing
Subaru WRX TCR TCR 5 9 +18.007
---
16 1:15.211
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Hankook  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
SEAT León {unknown} 3 10 +19.895
---
16 1:14.917
---
Hankook  
spanner
 Prodigy Racing
VW Golf TCR TCR 11 11 (+2) +26.288
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16 1:15.844
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Hankook  
Baikal
 
Subaru WRX TCR TCR 16 12 +26.546
---
16 1:15.463
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Hankook  
Sutol
 
Honda Civic TCR TCR 18 13 +28.765
---
16 1:16.101
---
Hankook  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Alfa Romeo Giulietta TCR TCR 2 14 +29.658
---
16 1:15.627
---
Hankook  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Mercedes A45 AMG TCR TCR 14 15 +52.946
---
16 1:16.518
---
Hankook  
SRW
 Prodigy Racing
Ford Focus TCR TCR 20 16 +1:04.220
---
16 1:17.773
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Hankook  
Syd Drake
 Drake Racing
Audi RS3 TCR TCR 15 17 +1:04.638
---
16 1:16.552
---
Hankook  
frex
 Kerb Crawlers
Opel Astra TCR TCR 19 18 +1:05.206
---
16 1:15.935
---
Hankook  
Bob
 WSL Racing Team
Honda Civic TCR TCR 21 19 +3L
---
13 1:15.962
---
Hankook  
picnic
 Team Shark
Subaru WRX TCR TCR 12 20 +12L
---
4 1:16.594
---
Hankook  
L4de
 
Opel Astra TCR TCR 17 DNS ---
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Hankook  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 0

RACE 2, LAP 1, TURN 4.

1:30:13 As the field head down to turn 4, both Kimi and Stefan both appear to leave their braking too late on cold tyres. They both lock up and converge into each other causing another multi car incident.
Warning to both to use more caution on lap1.


Server replay time: 0

RACE 2, TURN "Semarforo"

1:35:50 Spanner runs very wide under braking for Semarforo right hander. Kimi takes the inside line and maintains the racing line, which with the nature of a fwd car means his car runs out to the left before swinging back across right for the left hand hairpin following. Spanner should have conceded the position from his mistake but aimed diagonally right from his wide position and hit Kimis car in the side, whereby they locked together and left the track losing a few positions. Kimi could have left a little more room but most drivers would assume the corner theirs after seeing a car go that wide.

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« Reply #75 on: October 08, 2018, 08:48:28 PM +0100 »

Can we go through a series without constant changes! Reviewing my incidents the cars contact surfaces seem to behave a bit unpredicable, cars are overlapping each other or bounce off each other, Its not the damage level that needs changing.
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« Reply #76 on: October 08, 2018, 08:56:24 PM +0100 »

What ‘constant’ changes are they then spanner? Damage is being discussed because some of you keep crashing into each other  detective otherwise we wouldn’t need a discussion and 3 of us wouldn’t have to give up our own time to review incidents  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #77 on: October 08, 2018, 09:37:30 PM +0100 »


Nice one Stefan, we had a good scrap that race Smiley.
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« Reply #78 on: October 08, 2018, 09:42:26 PM +0100 »

spanner, if you knew a little more about the AC and AC net code, pings, lags, cars collider models and center of gravity, you would not ask such questions and, perhaps, you would drive in another sim  Wink
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« Reply #79 on: October 09, 2018, 03:32:04 PM +0100 »

just a footnote, a few of you will get notification of being involved in the Turn 4 pileups on lap1. 3 of us have reviewed the replays and come to similar conclusions but you are perfectly entitled to state your side of the story by replying to the incident report.  Smiley

There were several other incidents through the race that nobody reported. For instance i saw Syd D get turned around at least twice and Fabri once. If you guys dont report contacts we generally will not do anything about them as it takes an age to watch the replays from different cars and different cameras, so please shout up if you do get clobbered and lose places in future races. Contacts will happen as these cars race closely but i dont want it to descend into a demo-derby, especially on lap 1.  Keep it clean  smartass
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« Reply #80 on: October 09, 2018, 08:51:46 PM +0100 »

The contact with the Yellow Golf was good for show. For recover my car i counter-steered all and did a crazy drift.  Cool
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« Reply #81 on: October 17, 2018, 01:41:31 PM +0100 »

Please note that all incidents for this race have now been finalised and no further incidents will be considered. The replays were re-viewed by 3 of us many times and from different camera angles. Nothing personal to anyone, but the intention (and warning!) was to avoid first lap contacts.
Any contacts after lap1 will only be reviewed if reported.
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