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  • A13 Silverstone: October 10, 2018
October 10, 2018, 08:00:00 PM +0100 - Silverstone (International) - UKAC Season 13 TCR Series
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Jeffrey
 
Honda Civic TCR TCR 1 1:06.378
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1 20:16.289
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18 1:06.629
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Hankook  
Fabri Fibra
 Magnesium Team
VW Golf TCR TCR 2 +0.169
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2 +5.858
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18 1:06.597
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Hankook  
nfsw55
 
Alfa Romeo Giulietta TCR TCR 4 +0.222
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3 +10.359
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18 1:06.811
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Hankook  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
SEAT León {unknown} 5 +0.458
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4 +13.456
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18 1:06.934
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Hankook  
KDiesel
 
Alfa Romeo Giulietta TCR TCR 8 +0.837
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5 +26.712
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18 1:07.041
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Hankook  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Mercedes A45 AMG TCR TCR 10 +1.123
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6 (+2) +27.170
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18 1:07.362
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Hankook  
Stefan aka Postal
 Legends Racing
Alfa Romeo Giulietta TCR TCR 11 +1.365
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7 +27.390
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18 1:07.678
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Hankook  
Baikal
 
Subaru WRX TCR TCR 7 +0.751
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8 +31.620
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18 1:07.407
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Hankook  
Bob
 WSL Racing Team
Honda Civic TCR TCR 15 +1.803
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9 +33.471
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18 1:08.079
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Hankook  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Alfa Romeo Giulietta TCR TCR 9 +0.944
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10 +35.583
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18 1:07.374
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Hankook  
frex
 Kerb Crawlers
Opel Astra TCR TCR 14 +1.573
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11 (+2) +46.439
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18 1:07.727
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Hankook  
spanner
 Prodigy Racing
VW Golf TCR TCR 13 +1.526
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12 (+2) +53.977
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18 1:08.253
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Hankook  
kaifos
 HDR Racing
VW Golf TCR TCR 6 +0.487
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13 +54.107
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18 1:06.864
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Hankook  
Syd Drake
 Drake Racing
Audi RS3 TCR TCR 12 +1.507
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14 +2L
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16 1:08.382
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Hankook  
Itamar Yativ
 CORE Racing
Subaru WRX TCR TCR 3 +0.179
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15 +16L
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2 1:07.441
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Hankook  
Sutol
 
Honda Civic TCR TCR DNS ---
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Hankook  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Mercedes A45 AMG TCR TCR ---
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Hankook  
Manteos
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Honda Civic TCR TCR ---
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Hankook  
L4de
 
Opel Astra TCR TCR ---
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Hankook  
picnic
 Team Shark
Subaru WRX TCR TCR ---
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Hankook  
SRW
 Prodigy Racing
Ford Focus TCR TCR ---
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Hankook  

Moderator's Report

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RACE 1, LAP 1, STOWE CORNER

Simon Gymer hits Kai from behind on the corner exit putting him into a spin off track in front of the following cars.Too aggressive on cold tyres trying to push through the car ahead. Simon continues on unscathed whilst Kai loses many places.

  • Simon Gymerpenalty — Rear end contact — 2 places lost


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RACE 1, LAP 1, STOWE CORNER

Spanner hits MJonzo in side rear quarter punting him off track into a spin. Too aggressive on cold tyres tying to push through the car ahead regardless. If he hadnt hit me first he was about to hit Kai's spinning car from Sharks contact ahead.


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RACE 1, LAP 1, VALE CORNER

Spanner gets hit mid apex by Frex's spinning car. Frex had tried a move up the inside but when he hit the brakes his car went into a spin and collected Spanner. Would have been harsh to give Frex a penalty for cold brake bias but he then performed a bad rejoin and T-Boned spanners recovering car pushing him off track a second time.

  • frexpenalty — Bad rejoin and contact — 2 places lost


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RACE 1, LAP 2, BECKETS CORNER

Syd Drake gets hit from behind by Kai whilst braking for Beckets corner. Syd may have braked a little earlier than the fast guys might but Kai should still have given more braking distance and hits Syd quite hard into a spin.

  • kaifos (Kai Syvertsen)penalty — Rear end contact — 2 places lost
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Assetto Corsa
{unknown}
1:06.836
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FullMetalGasket
Qualifying
SEAT LeónOctober 10, 2018, 08:00:00 PM +0100
A13
Assetto Corsa
TCR
1:06.378
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Jeffrey
Qualifying
Honda Civic TCROctober 10, 2018, 08:00:00 PM +0100
A13
Assetto Corsa
TCR
1:06.597
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Fabri Fibra
Race
VW Golf TCROctober 10, 2018, 08:00:00 PM +0100
A13
October 10, 2018, 09:00:00 PM +0100 - Silverstone (International) - UKAC Season 13 TCR Series
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
kaifos
 HDR Racing
VW Golf TCR TCR 13 1 20:37.303
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18 1:06.984
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Hankook  
KDiesel
 
Alfa Romeo Giulietta TCR TCR 7 2 +1.144
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18 1:07.426
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Hankook  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Mercedes A45 AMG TCR TCR 8 3 +1.535
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18 1:07.222
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Hankook  
Jeffrey
 
Honda Civic TCR TCR 3 4 +1.958
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18 1:06.771
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Hankook  
nfsw55
 
Alfa Romeo Giulietta TCR TCR 5 5 +4.391
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18 1:07.125
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Hankook  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
SEAT León {unknown} 6 6 +4.663
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18 1:06.712
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Hankook  
Baikal
 
Subaru WRX TCR TCR 10 7 (+1) +9.687
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18 1:07.398
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Hankook  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Alfa Romeo Giulietta TCR TCR 1 8 +9.961
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18 1:07.568
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Hankook  
spanner
 Prodigy Racing
VW Golf TCR TCR 12 9 +11.386
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18 1:07.406
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Hankook  
Fabri Fibra
 Magnesium Team
VW Golf TCR TCR 4 10 +11.868
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18 1:07.015
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Hankook  
frex
 Kerb Crawlers
Opel Astra TCR TCR 11 11 +14.192
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18 1:07.644
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Hankook  
Bob
 WSL Racing Team
Honda Civic TCR TCR 2 12 +18.055
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18 1:07.709
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Hankook  
Stefan aka Postal
 Legends Racing
Alfa Romeo Giulietta TCR TCR 9 13 +19.344
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18 1:07.744
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Hankook  
Syd Drake
 Drake Racing
Audi RS3 TCR TCR 14 14 +30.697
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18 1:07.985
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Hankook  
SRW
 Prodigy Racing
Ford Focus TCR TCR 15 +1L
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17 1:09.510
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Hankook  
Manteos
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Honda Civic TCR TCR DNS ---
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Hankook  
L4de
 
Opel Astra TCR TCR ---
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Hankook  
Sutol
 
Honda Civic TCR TCR ---
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Hankook  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Mercedes A45 AMG TCR TCR ---
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Hankook  
picnic
 Team Shark
Subaru WRX TCR TCR ---
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Hankook  
Itamar Yativ
 CORE Racing
Subaru WRX TCR TCR 15 ---
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Hankook  

Moderator's Report

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RACE 2, LAP 2, ABBEY CORNER

Alexey and Bob clash at Abbey. In the reverse grid Bob finds himself surrounded by the front guys, he moves over to the kerbline mid corner, where he is hit from behind by Alexey (Baikal) and spun out. However Bob suddenly appeared in front of Baikal leaving him no time to react as already committed to the corner.

  • Baikal (Alexey Luzin)advice — Racing Incident, no further action
  • Bobadvice — Racing Incident, no further action


Server replay time: 0

RACE 2, LAP 4, VALE CORNER

Stefan and Kimi are both heading down to Vale with Stefan on left and Kimi on right. Kimi has a third of his car alongside. They both brake for Vale left hander but Stefan moves over slightly right under braking and the two cars touch. Stefan is spun off and hits the barrier. But watching from Kimis dash, he doesnt move whereas Stefan moved across. Stefan should have kept the inside line for the left hand turn ideally. Racing incident - no action.


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RACE 2, LAP 7?, VALE CORNER

Baikal and Fabri are heading down to Vale left hand turn. Fabri has the ideal racing line on the right with Baikal on the left. Baikal gradually converges into Fabri and they brush side by side (door rubbing!) but Fabris car gets punted sideways right, probably due to the dodgy collision detection or Baikals high ping on the night. The contact should have been nothing in the real world. However Alex could have given more room and kept the inside line for the left hander.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Assetto Corsa
{unknown}
1:06.712
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FullMetalGasket
Race
SEAT LeónOctober 10, 2018, 09:00:00 PM +0100
A13
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« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2018, 09:00:19 AM +0100 »

Sorry, didn't see any messages on the server Smiley I think they might be turned off when I'm in the car. Yeah, there is wheel rate on that suspension screen.

figured that was the case. Do you use Stracker? (the app) if so, people can send you setups via that. You just double click the header of the driver table on screen and another screen pops up where it says 'save setup/send setup' and you get it from there.

ps if you are setting your brake bias to 75% you are just going to lock up your fronts and flat spot the tyres!...not to mention rear-end someone  Shocked  i only adjust between 68% to 71% (For these cars) depending on track. Aliens may be more extreme  Undecided
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« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2018, 09:02:14 AM +0100 »

Race day folks  Smiley  looking forward to it. I have a pitiful amount of points after being hit in every race so far  Cry

I will be most disapointed if there are many contacts on this wide track  detective  lets keep it clean and have fun  Cool
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« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2018, 09:17:21 AM +0100 »

I've had a cold like a few days and not had enough traning and cheating w setup, but i still will be in race  Smiley
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« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2018, 11:56:42 AM +0100 »

Maybe I'm doing all wrong, but I used for all races a bias of 75 %.
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« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2018, 12:03:31 PM +0100 »

Maybe I'm doing all wrong, but I used for all races a bias of 75 %.

Ha, considering your pace, maybe i am doing it all wrong ! 75% is quite forward biased is it not? though probably works better for trailbraking.. but can you even do that in a fwd car?  (i am a rwd man!).  Huh
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« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2018, 01:01:25 PM +0100 »

I prefer rwd cars too.
Yes, I move bias in front for trailbraking. I see too much smoke from rear tyres for nothing, better have all weight and brake power on nose and a rear light.
I had learn that in real life. When I was 17-18 years old I used a lot the handbrake, but then I have learn that you can entering in oversteering using only the brake pedal, just have a good sensibility. Of course on harpins needs the headbrake :-)
I repeat, maybe I'm wrong and it is better have a bias more on rear...
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« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2018, 01:05:28 PM +0100 »

Note to self: Work out which car is MJ, and aim for it  hang
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« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2018, 01:16:34 PM +0100 »

Note to self: Work out which car is MJ, and aim for it  hang

Ha, several other cars beat you to it in the first 4 races  surrender gun_bandana nono

Hmm, will give a forward bias a go then. I assumed the front wheels are already trying to do too much, ie steer and accelerate! without throwing hard braking into their dynamics. I was using a tad more rear bias to act like a handbrake!  Grin
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« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2018, 07:27:31 PM +0100 »

Note to self: Work out which car is MJ, and aim for it  hang

Ha, several other cars beat you to it in the first 4 races  surrender gun_bandana nono

Hmm, will give a forward bias a go then. I assumed the front wheels are already trying to do too much, ie steer and accelerate! without throwing hard braking into their dynamics. I was using a tad more rear bias to act like a handbrake!  Grin
BB 75 in Vallelunga was a bad idea for good lap time. ( see Fabri lap times  Wink
So, practically, BB depends of track profile  Smiley Silverstone needs more forward BB than Vallelunga
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« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2018, 07:32:13 PM +0100 »

I will just use MJ as a brake.
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« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2018, 07:45:54 PM +0100 »

I will just use MJ as a brake.

Eheh if I’m in front of you then you did something wrong in qualifying  Grin
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« Reply #26 on: October 10, 2018, 08:51:45 PM +0100 »

problems logging onto the server as usual. taken me 33 minutes to log on.

takes about 5 mins to log in, then I get random error messages of 'server not available' when I venture out on track or I get out on track and my Logitech G27 is restricted to 360 degrees rotation which I find almost undriveable. can take up to six or seven attempts some times. Does anyone else have this problem?

I am now logged on, but the race has started, if I wait till the first race has finished, will the game let me start the second race?
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« Reply #27 on: October 10, 2018, 09:47:06 PM +0100 »

First race good, no problems racing with MJ, second race shunted off track race ruined, on reversed grids some sort of care should be exercised when one of the slowest drivers finds himself second on the grid. This sort of action tarnishes Wed night racing for me.
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« Reply #28 on: October 10, 2018, 09:47:45 PM +0100 »

Race 2 was bit a bordel. The start was fun, with a good battle with Jef and FMG. Sorry for small contact at first lap, FMG. Then (maybe lap 12) my race went totaly to putains because Alexey pushed me out on braking before chicane. Man, if you are not able to brake side by side it is a problem. We can increase the damage as much as 500% but if you don't know the basics of being for stay on track, the contacts will always happen.

I always thought that I would not report any incidents but in this case I will do it. Embarrassing! Angry
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« Reply #29 on: October 10, 2018, 09:53:26 PM +0100 »

First race good, no problems racing with MJ, second race shunted off track race ruined, on reversed grids some sort of care should be exercised when one of the slowest drivers finds himself second on the grid. This sort of action tarnishes Wed night racing for me.

Reversing 10 people is very risky IMO as the more you reverse, the bigger the chance of speed difference. Laptimes are very equal in these cars, so reversing 10 is possible, it just adds to the risk of reversed grids.

I always thought that I would not report any incidents but in this case I will do it. Embarrassing! Angry

You have every right to. I think reports will do more than increasing the damage number. How many people took less risk now that the damage was increased by 10%?

My debrief will follow, it was too hectic in race 2  Tongue
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