UKGTL - Season 1-ish, Round 2, Mondello National - May 11th

[Zacari]

Why on earth does the export have me qualifying in 3rd when I didn't Does it just go by fastest times set in the session regardless of if they make the race or not?

[Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer]

Why on earth does the export have me qualifying in 3rd when I didn't Does it just go by fastest times set in the session regardless of if they make the race or not?

Yes. I don't think the GTL exports have reliable grid slot information beyond what's in the qualifying data.

[Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer]

Saw loads of lagging going on, cars were spawning in front and behind me constantly towards the end.

I saw just one disco'd car, I had no other problems at all which is very unusual given how ropey my bit of ADSL string is these days! I reckon you all need to turn down your levels of detail.

That was a much better race for me than round 1. Got off to a reasonable start and despite the tyres going a bit wobbly half way through Paul968 was the only car with enough speed to get past after pressuring me into running wide. Quite pleased to get 8th place, a solid improvement on my grid slot.

[Jeffrey]

Why on earth does the export have me qualifying in 3rd when I didn't Does it just go by fastest times set in the session regardless of if they make the race or not?

What is your in-chart name then? I don't see Zacari, or am I getting blind?

[Simon Gymer]

Special race tomorrow night for those interested at Brands Hatch Indy circuit. Should be good fun...
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1551.msg22666#msg22666

[Zacari]

Your lapchart export is fine Ruskus it's the official one on the results page that has me down in 3rd for quali.

[Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer]

Your lapchart export is fine Ruskus it's the official one on the results page that has me down in 3rd for quali.

And from my point of view it correctly states that you set the third fastest time in qualifying, which you did.

It also correctly shows you as a Did Not Start.

[Don]

 Ended up having a cracking battle with Don, but I just could not get past him!  With the top 6-7 drivers coming round behind us and past us, it was a close run thing with Don running out the winner between the two of us.  We might have traded paint, but nothing serious.

Probably the most fun I've had with you guys so thanks again.

Well driven Adam.
Sorry I was a driving a little defensive at not letting you pass, but full marks to you totally gentlemanly behaviour
Got shunted and shafted a few too many times for my liking, but maybe thats the nature of TC65 and maybe I'm just going to have to live with it.
I was getting lots of said lag and high pings and frozen cars from the start which didn't help.
Np madd I've been there.

[PaulW]

If you're going to point the finger- at least say why we might be responsible for the lagginess!     

I think it's something more than just detail levels or dodgy connections. A large number of people saw the warping cars last night and we were nowhere near server capacity- evidenced by the solid pings. Could all of Europes' internet network be having a bad day last night? Actually, perhaps that's entirely possible!

[Paul968]

Decided to join at the last minute, and no practice and 3 qual laps meant I started 15th. Then had a real struggle looking for a way past FliBri. Got past after many laps when he went off, and then made 4 places in one corner when the group ahead all got tangled up. Spent a long time after that chasing down Dave G, only to mess up and throw away all the good work. Did it all again and just as the battle was about to start Dave obligingly ran wide - shame really. At the same time JonnyDee had dropped back to just in front, and we had 6 or 7 laps of intense racing, ending in a spin from Jonny when out of position. The last bit should have been a cruise to the finish, but Mark J lost it ahead and rejoined as I came past. He managed to keep the place but we were right together into the last corner on the last lap. He took it tighter than I expected, not using all the track, which meant I gave him a slight tap, and the split second it took for him to gather it up was all it took to give me the place. To be honest I don't think this was particularly fair on Mark, so I'm quite happy if Dave wants to juggle the results to put Mark in 6th. Thx to all for some great racing anyway.

Paul

[Simon Gymer]

Not sure we will ever know Paul. As with all internet games we just have to put up with these things, it's a fact of life that the internet can't sustain the same speed and packet success 100% of the time. Internet games do their best but they are at the mercy of the internet.

[picnic]

If you're going to point the finger- at least say why we might be responsible for the lagginess!     

No fault or blame intended, I was curious as until last week's GTR race I don't recall having a problem importing results because one player had multiple slot entries in the export file. All the league events, fun or otherwise, have been run on the new server for the last 2 weeks or so. Last night was the first time several people have reported issues.

[Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer]

No fault or blame intended, I was curious as until last week's GTR race I don't recall having a problem importing results because one player had multiple slot entries in the export file.

Multiple slots are nearly always down to people leaving and joining again.

[picnic]

Multiple slots are nearly always down to people leaving and joining again.

In the practice/qualification sessions yes but not in the race data!

[[ZiP]Tyf]

...I reckon you all need to turn down your levels of detail.

First thing I thought of when I read through all this... I was doing praccy on here and noticed a 24 FPS on T1 offline with my normal settings. When I joined the UKGTL server it was down to 15 FPS in T1. Quit, lowered all settings to almost absolute minimum, track detail especially for my system and went back online... Voila 71 FPS in the same corner!
I know that in FPS (1st person shooter) games high graphics settings can cause loads of lag. Top players therefore play 800*600 resolution in Q4/2k4 still with details on low (most). Problem being that when the CPU is calculating all this nice eye-candy-nonsense... It's forgetting about the rather more usefull packets to the server , hence people warping all over the place when it finally does sent the right stuff to the main server!

On topic :
Quali went pwetty good for me, 4th place till last lap of Loc, which was funny to see, only about 18/100 between us, n1 m8. Start was completely bonkers imo... Admins should prolly shout ROLLING START ROLLING START ROLLING START until timer reaches 3 secs or so...
And speaking of shouting... For a bunch of people it's good I never applied and (prolly therefore ) never got a job as moderator... I was quite certain I had closed IRC before starting up GTL, but some n00bs almost made me doubt that Really friggin annoying tbh.
And speaking of annoying... Some1 thinks warming up brakes and tyres is best done on the warmup lap by accelerating 2 fast for his 60s! brakes to stop him and then drive into the back of the guy in front Tx...

Don't believe in this penalty system as it is used at the moment, so cba to report any crap, I'll just try to drive like I've been doing, slow but gentlemanly .

Positive note... Nice lapchart again Rusk.

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