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  • UKGTL S1-ish R5 Imola: June 01, 2006
June 01, 2006, 09:13:58 PM +0100 - Imola (2007+) - UKGTL Season 1ish
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Pero_Grozni
 RS Motorsport
Alfa Romeo GTA (#907) TC-65 D2 1 2:13.716
82.313mph
1 44:29.450
78.340mph
19 2:14.552
81.802mph
Dunlop  
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
Alfa Romeo GTA (#958) TC-65 D2 2 +25.457
77.600mph
19 2:14.941
81.566mph
Dunlop  
Zacari
 Team Shark
Alfa Romeo GTA (#922) TC-65 D2 3 +2.296
80.924mph
3 +43.038
77.097mph
19 2:17.184
80.232mph
Dunlop  
pribeiro
 Ghostspeed
Lotus Cortina (#901) TC-65 D2 5 +2.724
80.670mph
4 +46.374
77.002mph
19 2:17.077
80.295mph
Dunlop  
JohnnyDee
 Ghostspeed
Alfa Romeo GTA (#922) TC-65 D2 6 +3.450
80.243mph
5 +1:05.346
76.468mph
19 2:17.988
79.765mph
Dunlop  
Madd-RIP
 
Lotus Cortina (#904) TC-65 D2 9 +4.064
79.885mph
6 +1:18.780
76.094mph
19 2:18.435
79.507mph
Dunlop  
[ZiP]Tyf
 Ze insane Penguins
Alfa Romeo GTA (#958) TC-65 D2 18 +8.220
77.546mph
7 (+3) +1:29.080
75.810mph
19 2:17.748
79.904mph
Dunlop  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Alfa Romeo GTA (#958) TC-65 D2 13 +6.274
78.624mph
8 +1:45.068
75.373mph
19 2:19.010
79.178mph
Dunlop  
FlyBri
 28CD Motorsports
Alfa Romeo GTA (#956) TC-65 D2 10 +5.437
79.097mph
9 +1:45.597
75.359mph
19 2:19.933
78.656mph
Dunlop  
Don
 Legends Racing
Alfa Romeo GTA (#956) TC-65 D2 15 +6.622
78.429mph
10 +2:03.530
74.875mph
19 2:19.962
78.640mph
Dunlop  
greg130
 28CD Motorsports
Alfa Romeo GTA (#956) TC-65 D2 12 +5.895
78.837mph
11 +2:09.772
74.708mph
19 2:20.272
78.466mph
Dunlop  
TinMan
 Team Oldie Racing
Alfa Romeo GTA (#958) TC-65 D2 17 +7.182
78.117mph
12 +2:12.367
74.639mph
19 2:20.637
78.262mph
Dunlop  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Lotus Cortina (#955) TC-65 D2 11 +5.540
79.038mph
13 +2L
67.064mph
17 2:18.168
79.661mph
Dunlop  
ASSASSINO
 Ghostspeed
Alfa Romeo GTA (#922) TC-65 D2 4 +2.473
80.818mph
14 +7L 12 2:17.458
80.072mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Dan Minton
 Team RVS
Alfa Romeo GTA (#922) TC-65 D2 8 +3.837
80.017mph
15 12 2:18.323
79.572mph
DQ
Dunlop  
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Lotus Cortina (#904) TC-65 D2 16 +6.899
78.275mph
16 +8L 11 2:20.706
78.224mph
suspension
Dunlop  
PaulW
 Legends Racing
Alfa Romeo GTA (#918) TC-65 D2 14 +6.549
78.470mph
17 +10L 9 2:20.473
78.354mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Jamera
 28CD Motorsports
Alfa Romeo GTA (#922) TC-65 D2 19 +9.734
76.728mph
18 +13L 6 2:26.439
75.162mph
unknown
Dunlop  
longskater1969
 28CD Motorsports
Lotus Cortina (#904) TC-65 D2 19 +16L 3 2:38.535
69.427mph
unknown
Dunlop  
mo
 Kerb Crawlers
Alfa Romeo GTA (#958) TC-65 D2 7 +3.813
80.031mph
20 +18L 1 4:35.776
39.911mph
unknown
Dunlop  
JonM_uk
 Ze insane Penguins
Lotus Cortina (#961) TC-65 D2 2 +2.017
81.090mph
+19L 0 ---
---
unknown
Dunlop  
BillThomas
 
Lotus Cortina (#904) TC-65 D2 20 +16.748
73.151mph
0 ---
---
unknown
Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

We had one report that a driver was hit from behind whilst exiting the pits during practice.

Without a replay it's impossible to say what the circumstances were, but all drivers are reminded that the pit exit is a dangerous place; drivers exiting the pits should, during practice and qualifying, make a special effort to check that the track behind them is clear before exiting, and drivers approaching the pit exit on the track should be wary of cars joining the racetrack.


At least one driver would have been in breach of the new "Use of Track Surface" rules. Whilst they were not in force at the time, and I will therefore not name any names, drivers are requested to ensure that they are familiar with the new rules.


Bill jumped the start, assuming it was a standing start. Unfortunately, it appears that the start procedure was omitted from the race announcement, which certainly explains all the confusion during Season 1-ish starts about which procedure drivers should be using.


Server replay time: 197s

Tyf spins off on the formation lap after Variante Alta. He rejoins having lost two places to Jamera and Demonic Dan, but immediately tries to repass them both. Dan lets him go, but Jamera starts trading paint with him. through the last three corners.

This then opens up a gap to Tom Cooper ahead, which Tyf uses to begin accelerating immediately out of the last corner. Jamera manages to catch him and they trade some more paint.

Tyf should know the rules by now, and Jamera should know that trying to fight someone on the formation is inappropriate; if they are in the wrong, report it and let the moderators sort it out afterwards.

  • Jamerawarning — contact on the pace lap
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded
  • [ZiP]Tyfpenalty — overtaking on the pace lap — 3 places lost


Server replay time: 283s

Jamera, Demonic Dan (longskater) and Dave Gymer find themselves going into Tamburello in a tight bunch; there is some contact as Jam gets squeezed in the middle and he bounces off Dave and back into Dan, who spins.

I think there is an element of Jamera fixating on Tyf ahead after the formation lap arggravation, and Dan brakes quite late considering the fact that it's the first corner of the first flying lap.


Server replay time: 1276s

Madd-RIP makes a move up the inside of Dan Minton into the Villeneuve chicane; they're almost level at the normal turn in point and there is some side contact in the first half of the chicane.

Dan flashed his lights on the run down to Tosa - it's not clear whether he was saying "it's okay" or "you git" but Madd-RIP left the door open in case he felt aggrieved and wished to re-pass, but Dan did not do so.

  • Racing incident

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GT Legends
TC-65 D2
2:13.716
82.313mph
Pero_Grozni
Qualifying
Alfa Romeo GTAJune 01, 2006, 09:13:58 PM +0100
L1
GT Legends
TC-65 D2
2:14.552
81.802mph
Pero_Grozni
Race
Alfa Romeo GTAJune 01, 2006, 09:13:58 PM +0100
L1
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« Reply #45 on: June 01, 2006, 10:42:25 PM +0100 »

Congrats to Pero´s win Smiley
Congrats to Ruskus recover Smiley
Congrats to Zacari 3rd (race and therefor 3rd final championship place Wink)
Congrats to all the field for the respect and fairplay Smiley
For sure one of the most interest and hard championship i had the honour to race  Wink

Thank you all, i hope see you around often.
Was a great pleasure.


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« Reply #46 on: June 01, 2006, 10:44:57 PM +0100 »

Ive figured out how Ruskus and Peter do it! Theyve got Mcphearson struts with a lowered tca to sycronise front to rear roll centres.  Grin

True, that, and a V8 Grin
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« Reply #47 on: June 01, 2006, 10:45:24 PM +0100 »

There were a heck of a lot of people in my mirrors weaving like mad though which isnt allowed in the rules, and is probably the reason for gaps everywhere at the back.

Perhaps you need to read the rules again...

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    Drivers are encouraged to weave left and right to warm their tyres, and to warm their brakes by dragging them whilst under power.
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« Reply #48 on: June 01, 2006, 10:47:41 PM +0100 »

If every1 starts to be judge and jury on track we might as well dismiss the moderators!?

So report those incidents to the moderator.
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« Reply #49 on: June 01, 2006, 11:00:02 PM +0100 »

There were a heck of a lot of people in my mirrors weaving like mad though which isnt allowed in the rules, and is probably the reason for gaps everywhere at the back.

Perhaps you need to read the rules again...

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  • No driver shall accelerate or brake hard during the formation lap.
    Drivers are encouraged to weave left and right to warm their tyres, and to warm their brakes by dragging them whilst under power.

Fair enough, and I realise that, but what about these sections (in bold):

Formation laps shall be driven in single file. The leader shall maintain a moderate pace which allows all cars, including those in slower classes, to warm their tyres and brakes without struggling to stay in touch with the car in front.
The leader should aim for a target speed on the straights of around:
GTR: 75mph (120km/h)
GTL: 50mph (80km/h)
No driver shall accelerate or brake hard during the formation lap.
Drivers are encouraged to weave left and right to warm their tyres, and to warm their brakes by dragging them whilst under power.
During the formation lap, each driver is responsible for keeping a safe distance from the driver in front.
Drivers should endeavour to avoid getting too far behind or to close to the driver in front.
The leader shall not accelerate at the end of the formation lap until they cross the start line. Each following driver should only accelerate when the driver ahead does.
The leader should maintain a steady pace out of the last corner until reaching the start line. Following drivers should attempt to form an orderly, single-file queue behind.

If people are weaving around to an extent that they're too far behind, that's against the rules.  Personally I'd be happier with something like 'no weaving at the end of the formation lap', but that'd negate the point of weaving during the rest of the lap, which makes next to naff-all differece to tyre temps anyway Cheesy

If that's not right then do correct me, I don't want to be assuming something works one way when it doesnt.
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« Reply #50 on: June 01, 2006, 11:06:52 PM +0100 »

Well I had assumed that common sense would dictate that nobody should be weaving in the last couple of corners because they will disadvantage themselves. Roll Eyes

I think we've had problems with the TC-65 cars because they are just so incredibly slow. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #51 on: June 01, 2006, 11:14:39 PM +0100 »

I didn't flash because I thought it wasn't allowed. Like I care of there are 20 cars, or 21 cars in front of me. I flashed because I had to laugh Grin. Not laughing at ya, but with ya ("lachte je niet uit, maar lachte met je mee" Dutch explanation). I was allowed to overtake you because of that mistake, but I stayed behind you, all because I didn't care about winning a position like that.

Aah rt, would have laughed at myself as well I guess if I didn't feel so embarrassed, lol! Tongue

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« Reply #52 on: June 02, 2006, 06:12:43 AM +0100 »

I wish someone would explain to me how the drivers at the front are doing those times and where I'm going wrong.


Lol. I was more than happy to almost be able to match your pace Greg Huh Embarrassed
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« Reply #53 on: June 02, 2006, 08:04:49 AM +0100 »

Is there the result file of the server so I can make a lapchart? Thanks
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« Reply #54 on: June 02, 2006, 08:26:17 AM +0100 »

Is there the result file of the server so I can make a lapchart? Thanks

Not yet... Hopefully later today if Picnic or Shark have time.
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« Reply #55 on: June 02, 2006, 08:44:14 AM +0100 »

Sorry for the delay, Replay  and Provisional Results now available.
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« Reply #56 on: June 02, 2006, 09:49:43 AM +0100 »

Sorry for the delay, Replay  and Provisional Results now available.

Thanks Pete. Cool

Subject to moderation, Team Shark are victorious! Grin Stick that in yer penguins and smoke it! Tongue laugh
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« Reply #57 on: June 02, 2006, 10:07:27 AM +0100 »

I got the 'real'  Alfa GTA sounds from the No-grip site. It makes such a difference to the whiney Simbin sounds. There are also some Lotus Elan sounds on there too i think.

Has anybody got some 'real' GT3 sounds for the Porsche in GTR ?...i have some sound clips from a real engine that sound way more racey and meaty but have no idea how they are converted into a soundbite for the game to use. I hate the whiney sound SImbin gave it. Sad You would think for a race sim they would at least get the car engine notes right  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #58 on: June 02, 2006, 10:15:51 AM +0100 »

Subject to moderation, Team Shark are victorious! Grin Stick that in yer penguins and smoke it! Tongue laugh

Woo! Well done boys. Now for a real championship as I don't count 1-ish as real otherwise it wouldn't be ish. LOL.
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« Reply #59 on: June 02, 2006, 12:51:17 PM +0100 »

Will SROU be sticking with the same format for first full proper with no ish about it season or will there be a change of cars etc? Question is just for painting purposes Wink Edit: Should ask first....Will there be a skinned season of GT Lengends?
Also grats to Ruskus on his championship and Team Shark on thier's.....Now just for a proper one like like us Penguins Tongue
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