UKAC - Donington Park - Ginetta Cup - Dec 12

[Baikal]

I dont like this car in many aspects of phisics.
Clipping suspention , strange tyres T cicles.

I like airplanes in scenery more ! 
Any advance to setup? I using wing2 and camber-3.5 in left screen. All other - default.

[Mark J]

i gave it more toe front and tad more neg camber at front, slight reduce at rear left. Wing 4. Soften 2clicks front ARB, minor tweaks to dampers. Its one of those cars you have to hustle a bit to get a good lap time.  Moved brake bias back a few clicks to ease lock ups.

Car was allegedly collaborated with genuine Ginetta engineers. Tyres are medium slicks so take a good few laps to get heat cycled into them on such a light-ish car.

[Baikal]

Thanks, Mark! Will try to love in official practice 

[Jeffrey]

You really need to do the braking before the turn in.

I made another stupid setup, but it seems to work for me.

[spanner]

I thought the default was quite a nice stable, neutral setup. Doesnt seem to work the tyres too hard, and this track you do need a bit of oversteer.

[Baikal]

You really need to do the braking before the turn in.

I made another stupid setup, but it seems to work for me.

I hope it will available on Stracker as usually 

[Jeffrey]

I hope it will available on Stracker as usually 

Done, but it's still experimental and I will be tweaking it further. It's for the LHD version.

[Mark J]

maxed all the settings again JR?   

To give you all a flavour ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmZ37lbcQZQ

uses the full track but you get the drift.

[Mark J]

Well I thought that was a pretty decent nights racing,  these cars are good fun and work well. I was able to race closely with other cars which is important. They are just edgy enough to throw some drama into the mix and mistakes to be made.

In qually I was nipping tenths out of the top 3 but fell just short at the end. But in race 1 I couldn't keep with them, running 4th and driving hard but then had an oversteer spin off the outside kerb at t1. Rejoined back in the mix and had a good short sharp fight with Ceolmor, but eventually pulled away once I got past.

Race2 had a dramatic first few corners and I got a tap going downhill into Craners on cold meds  had no choice but to steer straight on the grass and hope no one collected me at the bottom. Everyone split around me like the red arrows 
Then I had a cold tyre oversteer spin at the final chicane dropping me to last
Spent the rest of the race fighting my way back upto 6th, good fun 

Stracker dropped out both races until the last few minutes...weird, so never knew who I was racing as no labels in rift.
Jeff and Simon cut more corners than a football groundsman  would have cost you both if that was a champ race 
Well done winners 

[spanner]

Some rather interesting driving last night. Good thing we're not monitoring driving standards!

[Mark J]

can we get Simons lap record scrubbed from the history? He only got it by cutting across a corner on the last lap  I dont know if he gained any places by it? Cheating doesnt deserve any kudos   

only other dodgy driving seemed to be the lap 1 corner 1 melee'....as usual    but that happened behind me thankfully.

[Jeffrey]

Had 2 fun races, but I'm not sure if these cars are truly suited for reverse grids.

Jeff and Simon cut more corners than a football groundsman  would have cost you both if that was a champ race 

Actually, I made more meters than anyone  . The c/t at this track is pretty bad. At the old hairpin you can go 4 wheels inside without any problems, but run a bit wide there and you get a c/t, even though cutting the inside is faster and running wide isn't. So I deserve a 5 second bonus for all the extra distance.

And maybe you should spend more time watching the road, as then you might have noticed the last corner is a chicane and not a double right hander 

Simon's comment before the race made me chuckle during. His love for cars without ABS as that makes people more prone to make mistakes came back to haunt him as he went full front wheels locked into the gravel 

[FullMetalGasket]

I rather enjoyed that - these aren't great for hot lapping but the lack of aids certainly helped spice things up as Simon said (Just before taking himself out with a big error as I remember it )

Race 1 was another good example of Jeff and I managing very similar laptimes on very different setups - something that showed itself throughout the race with Jeff clearly having the faster car in the first half (and managing to use it when I ran slightly wide), before my car became a bit faster in the late stages while Jeff was clearly starting to struggle.
I managed to get alongside and even slightly in front on 3, maybe 4, occasions in the last 10 minutes but just couldn't make it stick 

Race 2 started perfectly from my point of view - as other than a small side to side when Jeff thought my bit of road looked nicer than his exiting T1 at the start ( ) all the other carnage happened around me and barely even slowed me. It also managed to make the Rift pay for itself as I was able to drive down to old paddock while watching the decidedly out of control car on the grass to my right, allowing me to avoid being wiped out by it at the corner - and I then just cut inside and powered by after he re-joined 

Lap 2, sadly it was my turn to suffer from a no-aids related mistake when I locked a front wheel braking side-by-side towards the chicane. I would never have made the corner without causing chaos so let off and aimed for a gap in the cars ahead - clipping Matt (who thankfully survived without loosing a space, very sorry we hit at all) - before then half spinning in the sand.
Sadly that removed any shot at the win as Jeffrey and NFSF both managed to pass me at this point - after a brief fight with Alexey (you need to dive-bomb less, you're slowing yourself down way too much) and Matt, I ended up being handed 3rd by a very Helpful Simon.

So, I think these get my vote but you might want to think about the reversed grid option due to the very slowly warming tires and resultant chaos.

Can AC set the grid for a second race based on fastest laps from the first race? That might be a good 2nd option...

[nfsw55]

can we get Simons lap record scrubbed from the history?

[Baikal]

after a brief fight with Alexey (you need to dive-bomb less, you're slowing yourself down way too much)

As i remember we''ve never crossing our cars in this races, FMG.   What divebomb you mean?   May be you chanded me to other pilot?