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Author Topic: UKAC - Osterreichring World Sports Cars - Porsche 917K - Jan 2  (Read 1943 times)
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« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2018, 01:10:33 PM +0000 »

Marry Christmas, FMG and thanks for master class! Vmax=306 (with zero wings?)  Shocked
Is your style  was : Braking straihgt line, jump to change direction and flat out ?
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« Reply #16 on: December 26, 2018, 01:18:09 PM +0000 »

These are tricky to setup.
I've never found a safe/grippy setup for them (They're lethal at Le Mans when running no wing for example hammer ), and the same applies here.
You can almost ignore the gearing, I wasted nearly an hour trying for better ratios - but the options in the 917 are so awkward I only ended up going slower.
You can lengthen the gearing to make the cars safer on corner exit, but you will loose considerable speed onto the straights - it also has the effect of removing some engine braking, which is critical in these beasts if you actually want to stop Grin

All I can advise is try to create enough stability that when the car moves around under you you feel safe and in control. If it stops moving under you then it'll be dog slow based on my own practice laps.
Also remember that the wings only affect the tail end of the car - max wing and you'll be very slow through T1 as you won't be able to turn. No wing and you'd better hold damn tight! laugh

As for my own style in these - pretty much the same as always. Just with less sideways.
Braking upto and into the turns, balancing on the throttle through them and only flooring it when I know the car can actually make the exit.
For wings, my current fastest lap is with a moderate degree of wing - I can't be sure exactly what as I'm still playing with flaps Vs Wing angle, they affect the car differently and I'm still trying to find the best balance point.
I also still need to do a zero/very low wing setup to see how the car behaves - I'm expecting T2/3 to incredibly dangerous like that though.

You can expect roughly Jeffrey's lap time without touching the wings and through making only minor changes to the setup.
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« Reply #17 on: December 26, 2018, 06:04:35 PM +0000 »

Hey FMG, Fabri and Matteo!
It's time to do some reference laps on server for us, turtles, please!  Wink
Merry Christmas all the way!  Smiley

I was eating panettone.
As FMG I lost a lot of time testing the gears and the wings. In the end I think that mid wings is fine.
Osterreichring and 917K, two dangerous things...

Happy Holidays to all!
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« Reply #18 on: December 26, 2018, 06:17:47 PM +0000 »

Oddly the 917-30 is much easier to drive here.
It's also 10 seconds a lap faster too on full boost angel
Needs 75l of fuel to do 5 laps mind.....

On the subject of fuel Mark:
Are you planning on leaving the distance as it stands? I make a full tank out at 38 minutes with my setup.

As it's a fun race I'd recommend we either increase the distance to 50-60 mins if we have enough drivers, or shorten it to 30 as per the last race.
Although that would definitely feel wrong with these cars.

Or leave it as is - it would introduce the possibility of multiple strategies again like in the 962 series. (although it would ruin my fast setup Tongue )
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« Reply #19 on: December 26, 2018, 06:25:45 PM +0000 »

Whaaat?! You can’t do a 40 min race with a tank of fuel? Seems odd  Huh

I’ve drank too much red wine to check  Grin
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« Reply #20 on: December 26, 2018, 07:27:02 PM +0000 »

I'll skip this one.
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« Reply #21 on: December 26, 2018, 08:29:15 PM +0000 »

102L is enough for 40 mins according to my practise sesh  Huh

sneaked into the mid 44's despite consuming 3/4 of a bottle of red  Grin  probably like the real racer guys did back in the day  laugh
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« Reply #22 on: December 26, 2018, 11:26:27 PM +0000 »

I'm living day by day in this period and I cannot plan anything because on the 1st of January, inside ours magnificent state of bananas, we will introduce the mandatory electronic invoice between VAT number owners.
You can figure out what does it mean when you work in a Chartered accountants firm in a state full of digital Neanderthals that are barely capable to light up a PC.

The best is yet to come... Grin


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« Reply #23 on: December 27, 2018, 02:27:38 AM +0000 »

102L is enough for 40 mins according to my practise sesh  Huh

sneaked into the mid 44's despite consuming 3/4 of a bottle of red  Grin  probably like the real racer guys did back in the day  laugh
I will have burn 117 liters in 24 laps in my current (slow) pace. So, same things like in holy P962ST times. Dilemma Wink.  For FMG with his pace, 120 litres will not be enough if he ( or Fabri) will brings us in 24th lap Wink  They will need an economy, hohoho!  Grin
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« Reply #24 on: December 27, 2018, 09:38:17 AM +0000 »

Yeah, drive faster and see if it's enough Tongue
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« Reply #25 on: December 27, 2018, 12:42:00 PM +0000 »

well fmg and fabri will have to do some economy driving then, like back in the day  Wink or take a pitstop and let the rest of us catch up  laugh

is 1:42 your regular laptime or a peak qually lap time? I was quite happy banging in regular mid-44's and only using 102L of fuel  Wink  I'm only a tenth or two off in sectors 1 & 3, its the middle sector i'm dropping a whole second  Undecided

I think this is a great combo, the only dangerous corner is the (do I take it flat) T1 kink  Shocked
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« Reply #26 on: December 27, 2018, 06:20:48 PM +0000 »

yesss, happier now, just half a sec off the front two  clap
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« Reply #27 on: January 01, 2019, 04:28:27 PM +0000 »

Don't forget this is the first race of the new year, tomorrow night  Smiley  lets get those flat 12's roaring  Cool
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« Reply #28 on: January 01, 2019, 06:04:38 PM +0000 »

For some reason I can do only 22 laps and half with full tank.

The race with the 962 was a good battle with 3 cars, from the first corner to the last one. We hope it will be equally fun with the 917.

PS: Happy new year!
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« Reply #29 on: January 01, 2019, 11:12:18 PM +0000 »

Do you think we need to make the race 38 mins long (or 22 laps) based on two of you saying there isn't enough fuel to get to 40 mins?
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