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January 30, 2019, 08:30:00 PM +0000 - Donington Park (National) - UKAC Season 14 Alfa GTA
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Alfa Romeo GTA {unknown} 1 1:24.015
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1 21:22.958
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15 1:24.133
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Dunlop  
Max .
 
Alfa Romeo GTA {unknown} 4 +0.944
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2 +19.348
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15 1:24.728
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Dunlop  
kaifos
 HDR Racing
Alfa Romeo GTA {unknown} 5 +0.960
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3 +29.098
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15 1:24.932
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Dunlop  
Baikal
 
Alfa Romeo GTA {unknown} 7 +1.733
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4 +35.007
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15 1:25.452
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Dunlop  
picnic
 Team Shark
Alfa Romeo GTA {unknown} 9 +1.978
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5 +35.459
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15 1:25.551
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Dunlop  
KDiesel
 
Alfa Romeo GTA {unknown} 8 +1.838
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6 +38.768
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15 1:26.290
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Dunlop  
Stefan aka Postal
 Legends Racing
Alfa Romeo GTA {unknown} 11 +2.785
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7 +48.317
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15 1:26.028
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Dunlop  
Manteos
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Alfa Romeo GTA {unknown} 2 +0.548
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8 +48.396
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15 1:24.757
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Dunlop  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Alfa Romeo GTA {unknown} 6 +1.560
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9 +48.531
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15 1:25.833
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Dunlop  
goldtop
 Kerb Crawlers
Alfa Romeo GTA {unknown} 12 +2.815
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10 +51.457
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15 1:26.723
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Dunlop  
L4de
 
Alfa Romeo GTA {unknown} 13 +3.527
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11 +1:00.224
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15 1:27.454
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Dunlop  
Sutol
 
Alfa Romeo GTA {unknown} 10 +2.686
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12 +2L
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13 1:26.805
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Dunlop  
Fabri Fibra
 Magnesium Team
Alfa Romeo GTA {unknown} 3 +0.772
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13 +13L
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2 1:29.754
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Dunlop  
Bob
 WSL Racing Team
Alfa Romeo GTA {unknown} DNS ---
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Dunlop  
Ceolmor
 
Alfa Romeo GTA {unknown} ---
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Dunlop  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Alfa Romeo GTA {unknown} ---
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Dunlop  
Jeffrey
 
Alfa Romeo GTA {unknown} ---
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Dunlop  
Sven Scott
 Opteron Racing Team
Alfa Romeo GTA {unknown} ---
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Dunlop  

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Unmoderated after two years; declared official.

January 30, 2019, 09:00:00 PM +0000 - Donington Park (National) - UKAC Season 14 Alfa GTA
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Manteos
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Alfa Romeo GTA {unknown} 10 1 21:24.624
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15 1:24.300
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Dunlop  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Alfa Romeo GTA {unknown} 3 2 +10.618
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15 1:23.952
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Dunlop  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Alfa Romeo GTA {unknown} 2 3 +13.817
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15 1:25.259
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Dunlop  
Max .
 
Alfa Romeo GTA {unknown} 4 4 +24.289
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15 1:24.757
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Dunlop  
Stefan aka Postal
 Legends Racing
Alfa Romeo GTA {unknown} 9 5 +27.320
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15 1:26.068
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Dunlop  
KDiesel
 
Alfa Romeo GTA {unknown} 8 6 +27.668
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15 1:25.165
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Dunlop  
picnic
 Team Shark
Alfa Romeo GTA {unknown} 7 7 +30.001
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15 1:25.663
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Dunlop  
goldtop
 Kerb Crawlers
Alfa Romeo GTA {unknown} 1 8 +38.107
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15 1:26.434
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Dunlop  
Fabri Fibra
 Magnesium Team
Alfa Romeo GTA {unknown} 13 9 +1L
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14 1:25.389
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Dunlop  
Sutol
 
Alfa Romeo GTA {unknown} 12 10 +5L
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10 1:26.836
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Dunlop  
kaifos
 HDR Racing
Alfa Romeo GTA {unknown} 5 11 +9L
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6 1:25.516
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Dunlop  
Baikal
 
Alfa Romeo GTA {unknown} 6 12 +7.928
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6 1:25.618
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Dunlop  
L4de
 
Alfa Romeo GTA {unknown} 11 13 +11L
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4 1:27.633
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Dunlop  
Bob
 WSL Racing Team
Alfa Romeo GTA {unknown} DNS ---
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Dunlop  
Ceolmor
 
Alfa Romeo GTA {unknown} ---
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Dunlop  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Alfa Romeo GTA {unknown} ---
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Dunlop  
Jeffrey
 
Alfa Romeo GTA {unknown} ---
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Dunlop  
Sven Scott
 Opteron Racing Team
Alfa Romeo GTA {unknown} ---
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Dunlop  
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« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2019, 08:11:53 PM +0000 »

Not sure they get many Alfa GTA’s in Siberia  Grin so I’m guessing Alexey hadn’t driven one  Wink

I think the 105 step fronts are great cars in real life and have thought on getting one on many occasions but they are big bucks nowadays  Sad  I’m now after an Integrale if you know someone selling  Smiley

I did a load more laps today without improving, very frustrating  Sad
All russian cars goes from Alfas Romeo chassis ideas and still on the village-village roads or offroads .. But its not making this chassis  very good for fast race track driving..  Wink
But to drive it in AC i need 3 hours for homologation to driving style , speeds, sounds and suspention movement. Because is so difficult to drive  the baby carriage with big wheels in high speed, isn't it .  Formula bullets from 60'S is more better here, Porsche carrera RSR  too.  Grin  
Ok I am shut up. I know it's still a "legend" in peoples.   
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« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2019, 08:18:40 PM +0000 »

Matt where is your fighting spirit? You give up too easy, these cars just need more seat time to get a handle on them  Smiley the track is wide enough for some good racing and there is always someone to race unless you fall off big style.

@fabri, yes Lancia Integrale 16v or Evo1. Seen a few nice ones for sale in Italy, whereabouts in the country are you? I’m hoping to go and see a couple in the uk next weekend but Italian ones ‘appear’ to be in better condition.
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« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2019, 08:27:45 PM +0000 »

I live in Salerno.
My mechanic's workshop is the ""temple" of the Deltas. I could find something if you give me a few days time. Also I have a friend who has a Delta and maybe wants to sell it (he collects cars, buys them and then sells).
If you are interested in something truly unique, we have an Alfa GTV Turbodelta ('79).
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« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2019, 08:49:55 PM +0000 »

Car handles like a Volvo Amazon with flat tyres, not like a finely tuned Italian race car.
Good fun, but not realistic at all. I will give this one a miss.
To minimize a headache in driving this car , do full drop it , increase all stiffness to max and set front camber to 2.1 degree in left screen.
Suspention movement will not cut here anyway but the car becomes more friendly for grip style driving.  Smiley But the shocks will still be fully leaked  Grin
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« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2019, 01:11:07 AM +0000 »

To be honest, Alfa is from 60's . I was mistaken in it ( thinked it was from 70) , sorry guys  Smiley
Porsche Carrera RSR 30 is next gen car in compare with.
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« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2019, 12:27:02 PM +0000 »

I had a quick go last night and found myself on with Matteo.
It all started out well with us setting the cars up and working on lap times - then after about 20 or 30 minutes we found ourselves near each other on the track..

We spent 20 minutes just racing each other, these cars are hilarious here - every single corner is a passing opportunity (provided you trust your opponent) and we were swapping position multiple times per lap  Grin

Oddly I seem fastest on my Cadwell setup, I really didn't think it would suit Donny and expected to be going even softer on the rear.

Really looking forward to Weds!
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« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2019, 12:37:30 PM +0000 »

i noticed you guys in the 24's now. Would be helpful to the rest of the grid if you could share some setup advice for this car here  helpsmilie  just to close up the grid.  Smiley

stiff front, soft rear? I found gearing tricky here. Still not sure if longer ratios are better or short, as downshifting often pitches me into a lurid oversteer on corner entry.
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« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2019, 03:16:14 PM +0000 »

For me all stiff and low and proper gearing. I'll use 4. Just for full relacs in driving .  laugh  All other softer and higher are just for drift maniacs and airplane B777 lovers. I love B777 and ( yet more B747 JumboJet) and they are will be more friendly in track racing in this case, IMHO  Grin
PS. And do not forget to cut white lines and last chicane for out of 25  Cheesy
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« Reply #23 on: January 29, 2019, 04:52:20 PM +0000 »

will jump on this eve for some extra lappage....i need it  Embarrassed
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« Reply #24 on: January 29, 2019, 05:07:25 PM +0000 »

i noticed you guys in the 24's now. Would be helpful to the rest of the grid if you could share some setup advice for this car here  helpsmilie  just to close up the grid.  Smiley

stiff front, soft rear? I found gearing tricky here. Still not sure if longer ratios are better or short, as downshifting often pitches me into a lurid oversteer on corner entry.

I've left is as it was for Cadwell, just lower in general.
Back end is actually fairly stiff, with an open (coast) diff - this allows you to get the back out on corner entry and under braking. That is worth nearly a second here IMO.
Down side is that you HAVE to be competent at heel & Toe plus trail braking, and you need light shoes to avoid over doing it on the exits.
I'm not using the shortest gear ratios as I think that I might actually run out of revs late in the race when low on fuel...
My power diff is still locked from Cadwell, I haven't tried opening it up yet to see what happens.

If you're getting massive oversteer on corner entry then you're either braking too hard or too late, remember that tire grip is negligible in these so engine braking is pretty damn fierce once down into 2nd. Effectively that moves your brake bias well back into the slowest corners!
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« Reply #25 on: January 29, 2019, 09:26:44 PM +0000 »

Spent another half hour plugging around but simply cannot improve my time  Cry I can’t remember the last time I wasn’t able to find time with a car through several practise sessions  Sad very frustrating as it’s a simple car and i like Alfa 105’s!
Oh well I’ll have more fun in the pack   shifty
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« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2019, 09:52:57 AM +0000 »

Provisional driver list for tonight, should be dramatic heading into T1 and Craners  Shocked get those replay cameras ready  Smiley

MJ - 55 Coneja
Jeffrey - Martini Racing
Baikal - 96_colado
FMG - foxx
Manteos - #262 carrera
Fabri - no.91 Raucci
Ceolmor - 118 Team Lucian Bianchi
Stefan - 46 stock
Kai Syvertsen  #2 Porzio
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L4DE- #41 Black
KDiesel - #159 lugo
Sutol - Autodelta
Matt - #10 marte
Max Veloce- #52 VDS
Sven Scott - #101 Williams
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« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2019, 12:15:14 PM +0000 »

I should be ok for tonight. Had a few laps offline and as usual in AC I'm struggling to get any decent pace. For me, driving neatly = very slow laptimes while a more cavalier approach is quicker but less consistent.....should be interesting  Undecided
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« Reply #28 on: January 30, 2019, 04:47:31 PM +0000 »

I am going to have a go at the GTL event tonight, so won't be there if you need more spaces
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« Reply #29 on: January 30, 2019, 04:51:42 PM +0000 »

I'll try to be on time for the race this evening. Let's see if I'll be able to join at least race 2 Huh
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