UKAC Season 14 Alfa GTA Historics Series Round 2 - Donington Park - Jan 30

[FullMetalGasket]

See Manteos' post 2 up.
If that's only partial then I have both races in full.

[Jeffrey]

I can do the moderating as I'm not in the championship, but only the reported incidents.

In the meantime, I'm waiting for the lurking Comodo dragon to pop up, otherwise may I suggest somebody else with permission to edit a few words.

[Mark J]

I can do the moderating as I'm not in the championship, but only the reported incidents.

In the meantime, I'm waiting for the lurking Comodo dragon to pop up, otherwise may I suggest somebody else with permission to edit a few words.

cheers Jeff, that would be useful. I can always second opinion it if needed. 
Still think you should continue racing as its so different to the practise in this series. You would have a blast battling FMG and Matteo and new arrival Max Veloce seems to have great pace too.

[phspok]

I assume Jeffrey is talking about some of the language used?
I would normally edit posts to take out offensive language, but this is MJ's series so it's up to
him to do stuff if he feels it is needed.

[Mark J]

There was only word worth editing (done).

Couple of mitigating factors also here, Alexey is not a dangerous driver as proved by his race long battle with Pete A and other good close battles i have had with him. If there is contact its normally just the usual clumsy racing incident that more than a few of us suffer on occasion.
Plus, didnt i witness Matteo collecting Chris T (Sutol) later in the race? (exit of Old Hairpin) They both went off in a spinning heap in front of me. I might be totally wrong on that so excuse me if i am, but just trying to point out we can all make mistakes in the heat of battle.  

[Manteos]

I can do the moderating as I'm not in the championship, but only the reported incidents.

In the meantime, I'm waiting for the lurking Comodo dragon to pop up, otherwise may I suggest somebody else with permission to edit a few words.

Thanks Jeff. I reported both incidents in which I was involved in the race. In both incidents I'm reffering to the timing of my replay, that is complete. From now on, I will treat my opponents with the same treatment I get by them.

Link for download. https://www.dropbox.com/s/gaah2kbmpvd33u8/ks_alfa_romeo_gta%40doningtonpark-national_20190130224554?dl=0

[Jeffrey]

I'm sorry, but I felt it was necessary to remove the last 2 posts. They added nothing and can be done with PM's.

[Mark J]

I'm sorry, but I felt it was necessary to remove the last 2 posts. They added nothing and can be done with PM's.

hey, let me read them before they are deleted at least 

I can understand Matteos frustration as he had race winning pace and got hit early but people are still entitled to race you and have a go. But the flipside is i also hate first lap contacts  but accidents happen 

[FullMetalGasket]

1st lap wasn't Alexey, that incident was several laps later

[Manteos]

Plus, didnt i witness Matteo collecting Chris T (Sutol) later in the race? (exit of Old Hairpin) They both went off in a spinning heap in front of me. I might be totally wrong on that so excuse me if i am, but just trying to point out we can all make mistakes in the heat of battle.  

That was a provocation by Mark to which I answered that at least, in that occasion, I WAITED. I would like my answer not be censored, especially when on topic and not offensive to anyone.

Thank you

[Mark J]

Plus, didnt i witness Matteo collecting Chris T (Sutol) later in the race? (exit of Old Hairpin) They both went off in a spinning heap in front of me. I might be totally wrong on that so excuse me if i am, but just trying to point out we can all make mistakes in the heat of battle.  

That was a provocation by Mark to which I answered that at least, in that occasion, I WAITED. I would like my answer not be censored, especially when on topic and not offensive to anyone.

Thank you

no provocation Matteo, not my intention at all as i want you all racing. I was just trying to highlight that incidents can happen to all of us but you were being angry about it happening to you. And yes i saw that you waited for Sutol. 

[Manteos]

no provocation Matteo, not my intention at all as i want you all racing. I was just trying to highlight that incidents can happen to all of us but you were being angry about it happening to you. And yes i saw that you waited for Sutol. 

That makes a huge difference in my opinion. Being able to understand your faults seems very difficult for someone. I always penalize myself when I crash on someone, but when I have to read that it's me hitting a car that clearly cutted my road, you should undesrtand why I'm angry, and why I used that unpolite word. I felt being trolled by Alexey, if that is his opinion.

[Jeffrey]

That was a provocation by Mark to which I answered that at least, in that occasion, I WAITED. I would like my answer not be censored, especially when on topic and not offensive to anyone.

Thank you

First half of your post was that you admitted to your mistake and waited, which was fine. Second half of that post wasn't as it caused more backwards and forwards blame-game and name calling.

[Manteos]

That's your opinion Jeff.

Censorship is never a good idea, especially in the Land of mr. John Stuart Mill.

[Baikal]

"I always penalize myself when I crash on someone"
I am too. Did you dont know? You can ask Stefan L about last race in Cadwell, for lastest examle  
So, sorry, but i must to say to you: to race in good health in future in 2 races format ( hard but skilled race format in this bath-cars) you should to be calm, friendly, initially respect each other ( peoples can make mistakes sometimes and forgot about it in hot race ( or have an other opinion in accident moment), use correct information,  not lying, not crying like a baby , not insult anybody, not creat any lobby. Just submit an accident report and wait for answer. For me all of refery desigions  in UKAC i am taking with full respect. Because i am not a TV or porn star and not Michael Shumacher. But. Please don't make any other pilot foolish here. Or leave...  Sorry for my bad english. It's my last post about this dirt and cry in clear sky.