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March 03, 2019, 09:37:10 PM +0000 - Hockenheim (1965-2001) - UKGPL Season 34 (2019) 1955 Grand Prix
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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Clive Loynes
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Lancia D50 F1 1955 1 2:12.865
114.807mph
1 47:22.337
112.700mph
21 2:13.664
114.121mph
Pirelli  
bagrupp
 Team Groundhog
Mercedes W196 F1 1955 11 2 +1.536
112.639mph
21 2:12.526
115.101mph
Continental  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Mercedes W196 SL F1 1955 2 +0.572
114.315mph
3 +28.166
111.594mph
21 2:15.029
112.968mph
Continental  
francesco
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Lancia D50 F1 1955 5 +2.006
113.100mph
4 +41.715
111.070mph
21 2:15.252
112.781mph
Pirelli  
uli
 
Vanwall VW55 F1 1955 3 +0.805
114.116mph
5 +1:10.415
109.976mph
21 2:15.182
112.840mph
Pirelli  
Rich Welsh
 
Ferrari 625 F1 1955 6 +2.239
112.905mph
6 +1:16.853
109.733mph
21 2:15.620
112.475mph
Englebert  
tagomago
 
Gordini T16 F1 1955 9 +6.128
109.746mph
7 +1:47.271
108.601mph
21 2:18.802
109.897mph
Englebert  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Connaught Type B F1 1955 7 +3.160
112.140mph
8 +5L
109.744mph
16 2:15.904
112.240mph
Disco
Pirelli  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Gordini T16 F1 1955 8 +5.240
110.451mph
9 +18L
107.419mph
3 2:19.464
109.375mph
Disco
Englebert  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Maserati 250F F1 1955 4 +1.292
113.702mph
10 +19L
109.095mph
2 2:18.459
110.169mph
Disco
Pirelli  
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« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2019, 11:02:58 PM +0000 »

Reply server is down so as an interim measure the server replay can be downloaded from here.
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« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2019, 09:22:01 AM +0000 »

Grats to Clive and the podium finishers, it looked like a fun race.
If Lewis has the sort of luck that I have had in this series, then he might as well park his car now and go walk his dogs  Undecided Undecided.

I had pondered using the Lancia or even the Mighty Merc for this track. I have more experience with the Lancia and usualy find it more agile than the Merc, but when I tested it on the server (against Clive Loynes and his Lancia) I found that although I could match his laptimes, the downside was that I could not get the car to feel "stable"under braking despite being fast. Spending tokens on the Mighty Merc just felt uneccessary on this track where slipstreaming would be the deciding factor, so I dragged out the Maserati 250f, which I knew was a) cheaper  Grin and b) I had used around Hockenheim before and was comfortable.

Fulvio was brave and opted for the fast, but heavy, Slipstreamer, Clive was in his Lancia ( and I knew how fast he would be ) then Bastian surged onto the grid with his W196. I had geared my car for slipstream, because I knew that it did not possess the raw speed to out pace Mercs and Lancias, I could not hook up a qually lap with a
 decent tow so 4th on the grid was Ok provided that I stayed in the tow zone for the race.
The first lap was a bit hectic, but I was determined to attach myself to the faster cars and was pleasantly surprised to find that I had guessed the ratio for 5th gear just about right when I tucked in behind Fuvio to see almost 170mph and still not at the red line  Grin.
It almost went horribly wrong entering the stadium when Fulvio had to start braking much earlier than I anticipated. I had to throw my car onto the grass to the right to avoid collecting Fulvio, not satisfied with that I tried to get him again on the exit of the corner as I slid back onto the circuit....well done guys for avoiding a bright yellow missile!!
Now that I was aware of Fulvios longer braking requirements, I was more careful and a lap or two later as we came to the stadium again I pulled out of the slip stream earlier and took the inside line, being very aware to be sure I was slow enough to hold an inside line, which in turn caught out the cars behind.....................

"nil points" for a couple of races have scuppered any realistic chance of retaining the silverware, but maybe I will have to go into ultra cautious mode for the remaining races to try and get a finish and a few points??


BTW  Igor chat appeared to be under attack from an IRC Spambot last night, did anyone else witness this?
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« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2019, 09:43:42 AM +0000 »



BTW  Igor chat appeared to be under attack from an IRC Spambot last night, did anyone else witness this?

Yes, and it still is.

Is it possible to create another chat room, say UKGPL2, and reinstate the password?

PDLR has also been hacked but GPLRACER has not.  But I don't think that either have a password.
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« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2019, 12:28:29 PM +0000 »

mhh, no its clear to me why you lifted so early.
I saw you in the dirt the lap before, but was still to far to see how that resulted, by fulvio early breaking.
still feels sorry.
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« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2019, 05:56:50 PM +0000 »

Because of two slipstreams I get a lucky practice time but a very bad start followed.
Braking mistake  Roll Eyes into the Sachs first lap - BIG SRY. When I saw that no one was out, I felt a bit better …
A lot of fun with catch ups and fine duels with tagomago, Phil, Rich and finally Francesco Smiley
Really difficult enter Motodrom with green brakes!??
That is why my last try to catch Francesco ends into the barriers but I managed to finish the race on three wheels Wink
Surprisingly top speed this Vanwall – but the breaks … Sad
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« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2019, 07:57:23 PM +0000 »

Didn't really get a good slipstream during qually although sixth was what I expected ish!
I got a good start and found my self in the company of the fast lads until Uli unfortunately ran out of brakes at Sachs curve and nudged me off (no worries Uli these things happen)
After that I had a good few laps changing places with Francesco and then my wife walked in and I lost my concentration and the the slipstream which is so important here
I then spent the rest of the race managing my brakes and the gap to Phil behind me.I had a bit of a moment and Phil got in my slipstream and I thought damn but a couple of laps later he appeared to lose it on the brakes going into Ostkurve "what happened Phil?". After that I just cruised to the finish,great race thanks all
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« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2019, 10:30:45 PM +0000 »

I've loaded the chassis the drivers used into the token calculator spreadsheet.  For the next race the available tokens will be as declared in the table below (the table will also appear in the next race announcement).  The calculated values are automated but selecting the cars is a manual process so please check your tokens to make sure I haven't made a silly error.  There was no token overspend for this round so no one is disqualified.

Driver        Tokens  Status
Alessandro Isacchini
13
Pro
bagrupp
7
Pro
Clive Loynes
13
Pro
Cookie
12
Pro
DLogan
10
Pro
EvilClive
23
Pro
fpolicardi
0
Pro
Gareth
10
Pro
Jeep
0
Pro
uli
5
Pro
francesco
15
Am
Phil Thornton
25
Am
Rich Welsh
8
Am
tagomago
50
Am
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« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2019, 10:34:58 PM +0000 »

I then spent the rest of the race managing my brakes and the gap to Phil behind me.I had a bit of a moment and Phil got in my slipstream and I thought damn but a couple of laps later he appeared to lose it on the brakes going into Ostkurve "what happened Phil?".
I got such a good draft I was catching you at a very quick rate and I had to apply the brakes quite hard whilst turning. I hadn't practiced that before and that wasn't the time to find out the setup wasn't very stable under heavy trail braking. I got into a tank slapper and spun  Shocked
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« Reply #23 on: March 05, 2019, 05:44:49 AM +0000 »

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A lot of fun with catch ups and fine duels with tagomago, Phil, Rich and finally Francesco Smiley
Really difficult enter Motodrom with green brakes!??
That is why my last try to catch Francesco ends into the barriers but I managed to finish the race on three wheels Wink
Surprisingly top speed this Vanwall – but the breaks … Sad
Very good battle with you and i was surprised by the speed of the Vanwall.I think to be not able to have the same times with this car.
At the entrance of Motodrom i have seen a rocket on my right Cheesy,you was lucky to finish with only 3 wheels.
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« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2019, 08:41:46 PM +0000 »

I would just like to thank Evil for the delightful Lancia setup that I used for this race.  Once I had removed his daft 6:1 steering ratio it came into its own!

I had no idea that Fulvio was in the SL until the very last minutes of qually.  I knew that I was going to have a problem getting to the end of the first long straight in first spot.  But it was a long race so no need to panic.  I thought that his brakes must surely give out at some point!   Roll Eyes

I didn't know what car Bastian was in as he seemed to spend all of qually stuck in the revolving door on the way into the circuit!

Sure enough, after the start we set off down the long curved "straight" to Ostkurve and Fulvio motored past.  I couldn't duck into his slipstream because there was a yellow thing stuck to his rear end.

I had done the MercSL v Lancia thing before so I knew what to expect.  When I watched the replay I thought what a wonderful sight was presented by the tightly bunched field heading towards the stadium.  They were so tightly bunched that I realised that they don't all have the same miserable looking bloke driving them and they don't all look quite so miserable as Fulvio's virtual self either.  The Ferrari and Lancia teams seemed to have cloned a rough looking individual too.

Anyway, we all took turns to have a go at getting past Fulvio.  Evil's first attempt almost ended in disaster when he suddenly found himself closing on the back of the SL at a faster rate than his brakes could do anything about!  He did the decent thing and threw himself on the grass, just managing not to clout Fulvio on the exit of the right-hander.

I think that it may have been the following lap,  when I could now see that Bastian was in the open wheeled Merc, and that he had managed to claw his way from the back of the grid to be part of the leading foursome.  At Ostkurve I had slip streamed Fulvio, who had claimed the inside line, and again could not pull in behind him because he was being followed by Bastian.  This resulted in my motoring around the outside of Fulvio and emerging onto the straight in the lead!  Bastian made the mistake of tucking in behind me but when his Merc was ready to pull out and pass me, hecouldn't because Fulvio was there and what's more, he still had that yellow appendage glued to his rear.

Fulvio passed me and pulled across in front of me but I knew that I had to give him plenty or room to turn his aircraft carrier and had backed off early.  Evil and Bastian shot past me on the inside with about a fag-packet between them.  (No cigarette advertising intended)

It looked like an accident to me and I was spot-on there as Bastian motored into the back of Evil, putting him on his lid!

I took a wide trip across the grass to avoid the spinning yellow thing and nearly had an accident of my own as I tried to rejoin.  The shallow angle that I needed to see what was coming from behind took me back on the grass and I almost lost it trying to regain the tarmac.

It took me a few laps to catch Fulvio and Bastian and I can't for the life of me remember where I passed Fulvio to climb back to second place.  Then Bastian made a mistake in the Stadium section and I was able to get past.  I didn't realise at the time but Bastian had spun and then reversed onto the track, just catching Fulvio as he tried to slip past.

That gave me the gap that I needed to get away from the Mercs and whilst Bastian obviously had the pace to catch me he also managed to chuck in the occasional slow lap that kept him at bay.  

It was a relief to see the chequered flag.
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