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July 15, 2019, 08:31:41 PM +0100 - Magny-Cours (National) - UKGTL Season 19 2019 Monday Summer Special's
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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Erling G-P
 TEAM-GTLDK
Ford Falcon (#872) TC-65 D2 2 +0.188
87.282mph
1 23:46.771
86.438mph
20 1:10.269
87.754mph
Dunlop  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#590) TC-65 D2 3 +0.488
86.913mph
2 +21.037
85.182mph
20 1:10.537
87.420mph
Dunlop  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Alfa Romeo GTA (#956) TC-65 D2 5 +1.876
85.245mph
3 +25.783
84.904mph
20 1:10.656
87.273mph
Dunlop  
Bob M.
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Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#595) TC-65 D2 6 +2.368
84.669mph
4 +49.037
83.566mph
20 1:12.366
85.211mph
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
Alfa Romeo GTA (#922) TC-65 D2 8 +4.845
81.884mph
5 +1:03.396
82.761mph
20 1:12.809
84.692mph
Dunlop  
SpecialKS
 TEAM-GTLDK
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#590) TC-65 D2 7 +3.177
83.739mph
6 +5L 15 1:12.164
85.449mph
DQ
Dunlop  
jammerjoh
 
Alfa Romeo GTA (#958) TC-65 D2 4 +1.220
86.025mph
7 +6L 14 1:11.266
86.526mph
fuel
Dunlop  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Ford Falcon (#872) TC-65 D2 1 1:10.461
87.515mph
8 +9L 11 1:10.648
87.283mph
DQ
Dunlop  

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« on: June 28, 2019, 12:41:55 PM +0100 »

Championship Standings here

Grid/server capacity: 22

Practice: ~19:25 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:25 (5 mins) Only one hot lap allowed
Race 1: 20:30 (20 laps)

Track: Magny-Cours (National) Standard GTL track

Cars allowed: Alfa Romeo GTA, Lotus Cortina, Mini Cooper S, Ford Falcon Sprint

Cars restrictions: Choose one make per race. You may not use the same make in Race's 1 and 2

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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2019, 12:30:58 PM +0100 »

After initial testing I'm surprised at just how close the car times are  Shocked

I was imagining that the Falcon would be the car of choice. Not so sure now  Huh
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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2019, 10:16:30 PM +0100 »

Never mind cars being equal !!!!
Thought that i would do a server check this afternoon  Roll Eyes So everything loaded OK, selected a car just to see if I recognised the track, and set off. It did seem familiar  Wink
T1 a fast left.....T2 medium speed right leading on to a long straight............at the end of the straight a coloured run off area and a hairpin right.....Huh?? oops!!!!who put a row of cones across the track?Huh? Have I got the right track??? and anyway which way does the track go?

Confession time. I actually started a race with the AI and followed them to discover that the run off area was the way I should have gone
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« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2019, 11:36:47 AM +0100 »

Hi, it looks like we have'nt quite made our target for funds this quarter  Cry

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« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2019, 01:34:46 PM +0100 »

Hi, it looks like we have'nt quite made our target for funds this quarter  Cry

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Done.

Are there already any times out for these races. i assume that the best times posted for this track are not comparable with our tomorrow's cars.  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2019, 04:41:21 PM +0100 »

Payment made, I think I must have missed/overlooked the earlier request.  Undecided
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« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2019, 05:26:51 PM +0100 »

Payment made, I think I must have missed/overlooked the earlier request.  Undecided

Ditto. Sad
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« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2019, 05:32:25 PM +0100 »

Are there already any times out for these races. i assume that the best times posted for this track are not comparable with our tomorrow's cars.  Roll Eyes
Bound to be. Look under "CIRCUITS". Find Magny-Cours and you will see a list of past lap times for the National Circuit (I hope).

EDIT: Seems no times for these car's which I find astonishing  Shocked

Altbierbude show 1:08 for the Alfa, 1:10 for the Mini, 1:09 for the Falcon and 1:10 for the Cortina. These times are for the standard cars.
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« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2019, 06:26:11 PM +0100 »

Thanks Tony  thumbup1 rockon

so two seconds missing in the Mini (which for me is great fun) and four seconds in the Alfa  Huh
Therefore will have a look in the Cortina.  Tongue

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« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2019, 08:05:12 PM +0100 »

Hi, it looks like we have'nt quite made our target for funds this quarter  Cry

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Did so earlier this month, but will send more if necessary. Please keep us posted Tony.
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« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2019, 09:54:56 PM +0100 »

Apologies to Erling in the second race, I was trying to prevent the car sliding right across the track and only succeeded in getting in your way  Undecided...So I quit in disgrace   Sad
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« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2019, 10:04:47 PM +0100 »

Results and replay now posted.
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« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2019, 11:04:27 PM +0100 »

Apologies to Erling in the second race, I was trying to prevent the car sliding right across the track and only succeeded in getting in your way  Undecided...So I quit in disgrace   Sad

No worries Clive, my race was ruined already at this point, so no harm done.

First of all apologies for the contact in T1 in the first race to Geoffers - didn't feel a thing and didn't see what happened.  Chased after Clive, being surprised he didn't just leave me in the dust, considering the Altbierbude territory laptimes he posted before the race. After a few laps, I got a better exit from the chicane, getting ahead into T1. Feared I had squeezed him out, as he went a bit squirrely, and waited for him to recover and catch up. Replay reveals he did it all on his own  Wink  Had fun being chased over the following laps, until Clive suddenly vanished at the chicane. Assumed he had gone off, but seems he went to serve a S&G.  Rest of the race lonely, with a 17-20 sec gap to #2.  Grats to Geoffers & Matt for completing the podium.

Race 2; well, certainly the last time I'm stupid enough to win race 1, should I ever find myself in position to do so again, as that ruins race 2.  Started at the back but got past Kurt & Jammerjoh on L1.  Had to brake hard to avoid ramming Tony into a spin, when he lost the rear going through the chicane side by side with Geoffers.  That let Jammerjoh past again.  After a couple of clumsy overtake attempts on Tony, I resigned and held back, at which point he ran wide on his own, allowing me to slip past.  A string of "New fastest lap" reeled in Jammerjoh & Bob, who had gotten a fair bit ahead.  Got past Jammerjoh when he went on two wheels at the jump, but could do little about Bob's Falcon.  Passed him several times at T2, only for him to power ahead down the straight. In all other corners, although I could negotiate them much faster, I couldn't get past as long as he stayed on the racing line.

Final attempt at the 90-deg before the chicane earned me a cut warning and a S&G (2nd warning - I thought you needed 3 for a S&G?).  Collided with a spinning Clive at T2, sending me deep into the gravel.  Went to serve the S&G, only to get DQ'ed next lap for ignoring S&G Huh??   Stupid game !!!
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« Reply #13 on: Yesterday at 10:23:46 AM »

Grats to the podiums in both races and to those who got to the flag.

It seems that there was a glitch with this circuit Erling, as I had the same experience with a DQ in race 1.

The early laps were great fun with 2 Falcons drawing away from the field until my visit to the pits.
I would probably hold my hand up to 2 "cut tracks" in the 1st race as I wrestled with cold tyres (and a need to get away from Erling), but I felt that the 3rd was a little dubious, however there is no arguing with the omnipotent GTL gods. So I cursed quietly and went to the pits and served my penalty.
On the out lap from the pits I was careful and was gobsmacked to get the "DQ for not serving penalty" as I passed the pits??!!!

As yet, I haven't watched a replay, so maybe my recollection of my lines is rather more fantasy than fiction and I had cut the track too many times Roll Eyes.

I do have a query as to how the cut track penalties are decided by GTL, and this in no way is attempting to penalise Erling. He was just driving the lines that worked for him and going as fast as he could. Others could have been using similar lines as well.
I watched the rest of race 1 from the pits and whilst not wishing to focus on Erling, I was watching his lines because he was also using the Falcon. The Falcon is a handful around this track and I found that I had to use the kerbs to carry any decent speed through some corners, which is what he was doing too.
 I was especially interested in the chicane as he appeared to be way faster than me through there. Whilst I was on track I was trying to keep 2 wheels on the grey bit ( as is the general rule) and when I watched Erling's car from the overhead view his car went through the chicane with 4 wheels clear of the tarmac for both left and right flicks???   "Aha! he will have got a warning for that" I thought. Then he used the same line for the next lap??? and the next?HuhHuh? "Next lap he should be going into the pits for a SnG, that will give Geoffers a sniff of the win"

But, Erling sailed through once again clipping the chicane??? without any problem. I did feel a little hard done by  Undecided Undecided lol.

In the second race I tried to copy his line in the much more nimble Alpha and got an immediate warning?? So I wondered what was different about the way that Erling did it? Whatever, I am not looking for any penalties for any other drivers, but hoping to discover where I was doing it wrong !!lol

The second race was immense fun for the first few laps as I chased Matt in the Falcon and was able to squeeze past a couple of times, but always the horsepower of the Falcon rescued him on the straight. Plus I discovered that the Donington gear ratios ran out of revs 75% up the long straight, which did not help my cause one little bit.
Geoffers and his Cortina were slowly gaining and I wanted to go quicker where Matt was fighting his car through the corners and quite legitimately blocking the racing line....the absolute cad!!!
It was as a result of this that I had to back off mid corner at T2 and lose momentum...Geoffers took full advantage of that and my under gearing to pass me at the end of the straight. Next lap I double downshifted into T2 and the rear gave up the fight for traction and the car swept around. I caught a glimpse of cars approaching and tried to force the Alpha to stay off the racing line, but succeeded only in knocking Erling into the gravel  Sad

Despite my woes I am greatly enjoying this mini series and the close racing between such different cars. Thanks Tony.

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« Reply #14 on: Yesterday at 10:56:08 AM »

Regarding the chicane Clive, I found the right part to be more critical than the left and was generally more careful with that. As it was, I didn't get a single cut warning in race 1, although you could perhaps argue I deserved some.
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