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October 07, 2019, 08:42:06 PM +0100 - Nogaro - UKGTL Season 19 1972 French Formula 3
Driver
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Alpine A364 (#72017) GTC-TC-76 1 1:33.184
87.094mph
1 38:46.779
83.711mph
24 1:34.238
86.119mph
Goodyear  
Erling G-P
 TEAM-GTLDK
Alpine A364 (#72034) GTC-TC-76 2 +1.054
86.119mph
2 +23.391
82.878mph
24 1:35.196
85.253mph
Goodyear  
S.Cargo
 
Alpine A364 (#72077) GTC-TC-76 6 +2.863
84.497mph
3 +47.231
82.046mph
24 1:36.845
83.801mph
Goodyear  
Suti
 
Alpine A364 (#72010) GTC-TC-76 5 +1.649
85.579mph
4 +1L
79.396mph
23 1:35.222
85.230mph
Goodyear  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Alpine A364 (#72051) GTC-TC-76 3 +1.335
85.863mph
5 +3L 21 1:34.575
85.813mph
accident
Goodyear  
SpecialKS
 TEAM-GTLDK
Alpine A364 (#72050) GTC-TC-76 8 +6.051
81.783mph
6 +13L 11 1:37.771
83.007mph
unknown
Goodyear  
Bob M.
  OLD SCHOOL RACING TEAM
Alpine A364 (#72084) GTC-TC-76 7 +4.592
83.003mph
7 +18L 6 1:38.368
82.504mph
accident
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Alpine A364 (#72223) GTC-TC-76 4 +1.477
85.735mph
8 +22L 2 1:36.068
84.479mph
accident
Goodyear  
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GT Legends
GTC-TC-76
1:33.184
87.094mph
phspok
Qualifying
Alpine A364October 07, 2019, 08:42:06 PM +0100
L19FF3
GT Legends
GTC-TC-76
1:34.238
86.119mph
phspok
Race
Alpine A364October 07, 2019, 08:42:06 PM +0100
L19FF3
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« Reply #30 on: October 05, 2019, 12:20:18 AM +0100 »

can some one tell me how you can set the race field up so you only practice race with these cars only offline  and not other GTL cars?
Well.............there are three ways.

1) And this is assuming you have the F3 cars in a unique install. Go to every .car file (except for the F3 cars) and using the windows command Rewrite, change the file extensions to say .xcar. This will take ages but it will work. Or 2) delete (or move) all the other cars out of the install.

3) Get a piece of software called Garage Manager. This shows all the cars in your install as icons and you click on them to be "on" or "off". It actually does what is described in 1) but takes much less time. Here is a link http://www.mediafire.com/folder/hzxc5ex7lkhgz/GTL_Garage_Manager_by_Strava_v0_04_by_Strava
Follow the instructions in the Read Me. This is how I control car availability on the UKGTL server.

EDIT: there is a fourth way. You give the cars a unique class name then add that to the SIM_GTC.gdb file. This is how the Can-Am and F1 cars were done. But you would still have to visit all the F3 .car files and edit them to change the Class entry to your chosen class name.
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« Reply #31 on: October 05, 2019, 12:23:51 AM +0100 »

Could I take #223 please Tony.
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« Reply #32 on: October 05, 2019, 12:42:50 AM +0100 »

Tony however found them quite easy to drive without altering very much.
Hmm, now I'm wondering if I'm going to be as fast as you clever guys, who fiddle with the settings, and achieve great results.  Huh
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« Reply #33 on: October 05, 2019, 12:14:46 PM +0100 »

Tony however found them quite easy to drive without altering very much.
Hmm, now I'm wondering if I'm going to be as fast as you clever guys, who fiddle with the settings ( yes! but I don't necessarily know what I am doing  Roll Eyes ), and achieve great results.  ( I think that is not always the case  Undecided ) Huh
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« Reply #34 on: October 05, 2019, 05:38:21 PM +0100 »

I'm of course struggling and not fast with these cars, but on top of it I fear having tyre wear issues: I have not run more than 7/8 laps stints yet but the tyres seem to be wearing pretty quickly...
Might be my driving and/or my setup tweaking though.  Undecided
Anybody having the same experience ?
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« Reply #35 on: October 05, 2019, 06:19:58 PM +0100 »

Thanks for your help Tony on the all F3 field, but decided it would be a waste as I can't stay with the AI in the race.  At least with the GTL cars I'm not as shamed!  Get to beat someone anyway..........

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« Reply #36 on: October 05, 2019, 07:22:58 PM +0100 »

I'm of course struggling and not fast with these cars, but on top of it I fear having tyre wear issues: I have not run more than 7/8 laps stints yet but the tyres seem to be wearing pretty quickly...
Might be my driving and/or my setup tweaking though.  Undecided
Anybody having the same experience ?

Must admit I have not checked tyre wear, just been concentrating on a driveable setup. I will hopefully give them a try later & report.
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« Reply #37 on: October 05, 2019, 07:55:53 PM +0100 »

Thanks for your help Tony on the all F3 field, but decided it would be a waste as I can't stay with the AI in the race.  At least with the GTL cars I'm not as shamed!  Get to beat someone anyway..........

Bob M.
I could not catch the AI at Silverstone
 so I wouldn't worry about it. Looks like the AI is set to be super quick.
I will be a more competitive opponent Bob.
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« Reply #38 on: October 06, 2019, 10:01:19 AM +0100 »

Count me in as a slow backmarker as well, I remotely see the AI exhaust pipes for less than a lap  Sad
Will try to improve though  Wink
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« Reply #39 on: October 06, 2019, 10:18:39 AM +0100 »

Haven't yet got around to testing tyre wear, sorry.

Yes, don't worry about the AI, they are super quick. Only part of Nogaro where I can beat them is the first two corners, can gain nearly a second on them through there, but by the end of the lap I am around 1s slower, so they are 2s quicker over the rest of the lap. They are super quick through the tight turns.
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« Reply #40 on: October 06, 2019, 11:18:26 AM +0100 »

I did some initial tyre wear testing to find out if I needed to set it to 2x. I concluded that it was not necessary.

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« Reply #41 on: October 06, 2019, 11:29:43 AM +0100 »

#10 for me please.
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« Reply #42 on: October 06, 2019, 11:46:43 AM +0100 »

#10 for me please.
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« Reply #43 on: October 06, 2019, 12:07:29 PM +0100 »

FWIW.....

For once, I have done a little preparation as this car group is a total unknown for me. Plus I recall struggling with the '67 F1 cars a few seasons back and wanted to get a handle on these cars before I set about destroying the scenery.

My plan is to evolve/stumble across a setup that simply feels stable and reliable. I have only downloaded and run on the Nogaro track as it seems to be a good testing ground with a good mixture of corners. If I can get the chassis to my liking here then hopefully it will be a case of copying it across to the rest of the circuits as we go to them, and allow for gearbox tweaks and minor suspension adjustments to suit? I might be faced with learning a few tracks as we progress, but that will be much easier if I have a car that drives without any nasty surprises!!

I tried Geoff's suggested diff settings and, maybe because the rest of my setup changes did not fit with them, I returned to what I already had. One thing I did notice re tyre wear, is that the diff settings appeared to have quite a marked effect...especially on the front left if I pushed through some of the longer corners. With the "wrong" diff the front left would go red/orange after 2 right handers at racing speed and show a noticeable decrease in available rubber  Shocked.
My current evolution of the setup has shocker settings a long way from the default and I have gradually reduced the rear roll bar to try and counter that deadly oversteer on corner exit. It still happens if I unsettle the car in any way around mid corner, so I am wondering if it is a clutch/preload issue?? I also wonder if I need to play with gear ratios to reduce the grunt I am trying to force through the rear end  which appears to break the tyre adhesion and initiates the rear end slide ? That Alpine engine sounds like a biscuit tin full of broken spanners, but certainly has some torque !!
 I have not invoked the AI ( never bother with them anyway ) and am concentrating more on being able to string 3 or more laps together, on an empty track, at what feels like 95% limit of my ability. From Geoff's comments, and what time I feel I am losing at each corner,  I am guessing that the AI would be around the 1:30 lap time which is somewhere I won't be going anytime soon!!! Undecided
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« Reply #44 on: October 06, 2019, 05:52:44 PM +0100 »

AI are around 1.34 Clive.
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