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November 04, 2019, 08:43:35 PM +0000 - Estoril (1984-94) - UKGTL Season 19 1972 French Formula 3
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Alpine A364 (#72009) GTC-TC-76 5 +1.430
95.622mph
1 41:36.830
91.704mph
24 1:40.167
95.245mph
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Alpine A364 (#72005) GTC-TC-76 4 +1.319
95.729mph
2 +1:01.466
89.501mph
24 1:40.177
95.236mph
Goodyear  
Luis Mesquita
 
Alpine A364 (#72027) GTC-TC-76 10 +6.787
90.750mph
3 +1:14.482
89.048mph
24 1:44.024
91.714mph
Goodyear  
seniordan
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Alpine A364 (#72062) GTC-TC-76 1 1:38.342
97.013mph
4 +1:15.209
89.023mph
24 1:39.407
95.973mph
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Alpine A364 (#72223) GTC-TC-76 6 +1.995
95.084mph
5 +1L
86.210mph
23 1:41.090
94.376mph
Goodyear  
Bob M.
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Alpine A364 (#72084) GTC-TC-76 9 +6.280
91.189mph
6 +9L 15 1:44.250
91.515mph
accident
Goodyear  
SpecialKS
 TEAM-GTLDK
Alpine A364 (#72050) GTC-TC-76 8 +5.771
91.635mph
7 +17L 7 1:43.346
92.315mph
accident
Goodyear  
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
Alpine A364 (#72063) GTC-TC-76 7 +2.228
94.864mph
8 +23L 1 3:05.252
51.500mph
accident
Goodyear  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Alpine A364 (#72051) GTC-TC-76 2 +0.214
96.802mph
+24L 0 ---
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accident
Goodyear  
nocatu
 
Alpine A364 (#72018) GTC-TC-76 3 +0.373
96.646mph
0 ---
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accident
Goodyear  
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1:38.342
97.013mph
seniordan
Qualifying
Alpine A364November 04, 2019, 08:43:35 PM +0000
L19FF3
GT Legends
GTC-TC-76
1:39.407
95.973mph
seniordan
Race
Alpine A364November 04, 2019, 08:43:35 PM +0000
L19FF3
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« on: September 27, 2019, 03:21:04 PM +0100 »

Championship standings HERE

Grid/server capacity: 22

Track: Estoril

Cars allowed: Alpine A364

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (24 laps)

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Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit stops required: No

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« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2019, 10:18:42 PM +0000 »

Just been checking the records and it seems that this is only the 2nd time that UKGTL have visited this track.

Oh, and last time Geoffers finished in last place  Shocked

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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2019, 02:58:48 PM +0000 »

I am up in Edinburgh for this, so will miss it  Angry I do like this series so will be there whenever I can
I should be ok for next Monday, when I am away weds/thurs/Fri.

Might get back in time for this week's weds event, but will miss next week, and next week's R3E event.
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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2019, 08:07:25 PM +0000 »

I wont race today. I have to sleep longer.
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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2019, 08:49:54 PM +0000 »

Oh, and last time Geoffers finished in last place  Shocked

Didn't do any better this time either!!!  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2019, 08:54:47 PM +0000 »

Sorry for messing up your race Tony, in the previous race the car rolled once I engaged first gear so I figured I'd be a bit conservative off the line and I managed to stall it... Undecided
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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2019, 08:57:16 PM +0000 »

Cracking start but the car in front of me obscured Nocatu's stalled car and I just clipped him losing a wheel so race over. Shame as I thought this was a superb circuit.
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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2019, 09:31:47 PM +0000 »

finished tires at the end. Seniordan a gentleman. Great !!!!! thanks !!!
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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2019, 09:38:23 PM +0000 »

Results and replay now posted.
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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2019, 09:44:31 PM +0000 »

T1 took me out, went in a little too fast trying to keep Luis in sight and lost the rears and did the slow spin into the armco.  Personal best however in # of laps completed.  Good track for these cars I think, they are just a little too wicked for me.  See you all at Rouen.........

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« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2019, 10:16:14 AM +0000 »

Managed to be in practically every position in this race, first, last and somewhere in between. A shame Geoffers slight contact with the armco lost him a wheel but this didn't prevent Roger and Saleman to put the pressure on. Too much looking in the rearview mirror resulted in missing a corner and an extra spin trying to make up for the lost time. Ended up somewhere in between the leaders and the racing trio: Clive,Bob and Luis. Slowed down a bit to join this party and for a number of laps we looked like real formula 3 racers ! Then Clive and Bob made unlucky mistakes and our glorious group fell apart. what a shame. Luis and I stuck together to the finishline. Well done Luis 3rd! And well done Clive for bringing the car in in one piece. And ofcourse hats off for Roger and Saleman for a solid win and second.
What strikes me about these cars: the suspension is quite vulnerable, it doesn't need much force to lose a wheel (or two) and end your race. Also it needs to be driven very delicately unlike the other cars we're used to drive in. Tyre wear can be quite strong and cause sudden loss of grip. And finally, this isn't the car to start your race with 4 or 5 superfast laps,( it mostly ends your race in a terminal spin) and for me it works best to try and find some confidence over the first 6 or 7 laps. That said, I do have to admit that I mostly forget about all these points as soon as the flag drops! devil

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« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2019, 10:48:32 AM +0000 »

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https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=16111.msg294681#msg294681

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« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2019, 08:48:25 PM +0000 »

Grats to the podium and those who survived to the end...especially Salesman who I saw lose a wheel on the final lap and drag his car to the finish. Wink Also to Rog who seemed to have these cars sorted and some great pace and control  I Am Not Worthy and capable of bothering the resident aliens ( if they survive the early laps!!  Roll Eyes )

Much as Dan said  Undecided
These cars do appear to be ultra sensitive to "over driving", and again, just like Dan said, I fail to heed my own advice when the flag drops!!
Pushing even slightly too hard just seems to burn the rubber off the tyres in a few laps and basically just screws the rest of your race.... at least that how it seems to me! Also, if one finds the back end getting away there is no controlling it, opposite lock seems to be unavailable or ineffective ( or both!!) and a trip to hit the barriers head on is inevitable. Sometimes a wheel is lost, sometimes two  Undecided

I was simply determined to finish at least one race in this series, regardless of final position, and so I tippy toed around to 60% distance before stopping for fresh rubber. I had fuelled for the whole race at the start so it should have been a quick stop except I faffed around selecting and un selecting various options and wasted about 20 seconds...…not that it would have made any difference to the results lol.

On a more positive note.
I did finish the race despite trying to demolish the car and/or the scenery on multiple occasions.
I had none of the freezes and delays as cars joined for this race  Grin. I have been through all of my installs and checked that the settings were all the same regarding ISDN connection and the "cars only join in garage" etc. ( one or two installs had random variations although I do not recall ever looking at/changing any of those variants. Hopefully whatever the issue was it has been resolved.

My best lap times on full fuel are not too far off the race pace of the fast guys, so maybe there is something to work on  Roll Eyes


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« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2019, 08:48:55 PM +0000 »

Result

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« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2019, 12:07:00 AM +0000 »

Thanks Kurt  thumbup1
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