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June 06, 2006, 09:20:17 PM +0100 - Donington Park (GP) - UKGTR GTR1 Sprint Season 3 NGT
Driver
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Emmo
 GTN Drivers Club
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 1 1:31.442
97.558mph
1 40:04.108
92.767mph
25 1:31.903
97.069mph
Dunlop  
CeeJay
 GTN Drivers Club
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 2 +0.131
97.418mph
2 +6.127
92.531mph
25 1:32.146
96.813mph
Dunlop  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Mosler MT900R NGT 6 +1.327
96.162mph
3 +39.283
91.276mph
25 1:33.977
94.926mph
Dunlop  
Paul968
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 5 +0.767
96.746mph
4 +41.736
91.184mph
25 1:33.366
95.548mph
Dunlop  
greg130
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 10 +1.603
95.877mph
5 +54.514
90.710mph
25 1:33.667
95.240mph
Pirelli  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 7 +1.444
96.041mph
6 +1:02.361
90.422mph
25 1:33.895
95.009mph
Dunlop  
RS
 RS Motorsport
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 12 +1.738
95.738mph
7 +1:04.373
90.348mph
25 1:33.505
95.405mph
Dunlop  
Grinsomat
 RS Motorsport
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 13 +1.889
95.583mph
8 +1:09.451
90.162mph
25 1:33.774
95.132mph
Dunlop  
Rich_A
 CBFR
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 4 +0.733
96.782mph
9 +1:09.809
90.149mph
25 1:33.449
95.463mph
Dunlop  
Dan Minton
 Team RVS
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 15 +2.165
95.302mph
10 +1:19.381
89.802mph
25 1:34.379
94.522mph
Dunlop  
jan duijs
 Dutch Turtles
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 19 +2.756
94.704mph
11 +1L
88.817mph
24 1:34.998
93.906mph
Dunlop  
Don
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Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 17 +2.458
95.004mph
12 +11.053
88.412mph
24 1:35.254
93.654mph
Dunlop  
Bernie Lomax
 Ze Penguin Brotherhood
Morgan Aero 8 NGT 24 +3.474
93.987mph
13 +27.421
87.818mph
24 1:35.185
93.722mph
Dunlop  
mclaessen
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 20 +2.875
94.584mph
14 +52.474
86.925mph
24 1:35.979
92.946mph
Pirelli  
longskater1969
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 18 +2.579
94.882mph
15 +1:19.132
85.994mph
24 1:34.707
94.195mph
Pirelli  
silver53
 Ze Penguin Brotherhood
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 25 +5.042
92.460mph
16 +2L
85.313mph
23 1:37.281
91.702mph
Pirelli  
[ZiP]Tyf
 Ze insane Penguins
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 22 +3.125
94.334mph
17 +15.922
84.752mph
23 1:36.671
92.281mph
Dunlop  
Jamera
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 23 +3.369
94.091mph
18 +18.555
84.660mph
23 1:35.810
93.110mph
Pirelli  
Adam Parle
 
Morgan Aero 8 NGT 28 +5.623
91.906mph
19 +1:19.582
82.580mph
23 1:35.909
93.014mph
Dunlop  
as-here
 
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 27 +5.188
92.320mph
20 +4L
76.274mph
21 1:36.820
92.139mph
Dunlop  
mo
 Kerb Crawlers
Mosler MT900R NGT 14 +1.948
95.523mph
21 21 1:33.745
95.161mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Edza
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 29 +9.739
88.168mph
22 +6L
70.402mph
19 1:41.687
87.729mph
Dunlop  
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 3 +0.499
97.028mph
23 +7L 18 1:33.474
95.437mph
engine
Dunlop  
picnic
 Team Shark
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 21 +2.988
94.471mph
24 +9L 16 1:35.726
93.192mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Truetom
 Ze Penguin Brotherhood
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 8 +1.465
96.020mph
25 +11L 14 1:33.899
95.005mph
unknown
Pirelli  
FlyBri
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 9 +1.541
95.941mph
26 14 1:34.338
94.563mph
unknown
Pirelli  
[RSms]Andy
 RS Motorsport
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 11 +1.674
95.804mph
27 +13L 12 1:33.040
95.882mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Rob Bywater "Kerb Crawlers"
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 26 +5.086
92.418mph
28 +18L 7 1:40.826
88.478mph
unknown
Dunlop  
[ZiP]PY
 Ze insane Penguins
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 29 +21L 4 1:43.383
86.290mph
unknown
Pirelli  
popabawa
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 16 +2.350
95.114mph
30 +23L 2 1:58.302
75.408mph
unknown
Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

At the end of the formation lap there was some early acceleration from several drivers resulting in some contact on the s/f straight.
Rather than get into it in detail, I'll just remind everyone of the new start procedure using the pit limiter, which will hopefully prevent these type of incidents in the future.


Server replay time: 260s

As the pack approach Coppice for the first time Picnic is following Jan Duijs and Maurice Claessen. Jan brakes early and Maurice almost rear ends him but manages to slow, but caught out by the sudden braking Picnic cant stop in time and rear ends Maurice sending him off.
In Picnic's defense, Jan did brake unusually early even for the first lap.
Picnic took a drive through immediately after the incident so the penalty is reduced.

  • picnic (Picnic)penalty — rear ending Maurice Claessen — 0 places lost


Server replay time: 283s

Mark Jonzo is following Shark down to Melbourne and he leaves his braking quite late and has to move to the inside to avoid rear ending Shark.
He just about slows the car but there is light side by side contact with Shark as they round the apex.


Server replay time: 369s

Paul968 is rejoining at the Fogarty Esses after an off and as FlyBri, who is defending his place fro TrueTom, reaches the braking point his view is obscured by the tyre smoke. A Ferrari is clearly visible sliding out onto the grass through the tyre smoke, but the second Ferrari of Paul968 is hidden in the smoke until the last moment and Flybri is already under heavy braking when he sees it.

Paul rejoins on the extreme right of the track just before the second half of the chicane, and is attempting to keep on the far right by not accelerating hard through the corner. FlyBri's line and apparent absence of braking suggests that he either couldn't see Paul for some reason or simply hadn't registered that he was rejoining at low speed.

Ironically, had Paul not made an effort to stay tight to the right hand curb whilst getting back up to speed, FlyBri mightn't have hit him.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 386s

Maurice Claessen has been following [Zip]PY for several laps and as they reach the braking zone for the Fogarty Esses Maurice rear ends PY sending him off. PY's braking point was no different than the previous laps but he did move to the right as they neared the braking zone. Maurice swerved left but could not avoid the impact.
PY should really have chosen either the inside or outside line and stuck with it. However Maurice could have been more cautious considering that the same thing almost happened at the same bend on the previous lap.
Penalty reduced to 1 place.

  • mclaessen (Maurice Claessen)penalty — rear-ending [ZIP]PY — 1 place lost
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded
  • [ZiP]PYadvice — choose a definite line before the braking zone

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GTR
NGT
1:31.442
97.558mph
Emmo
Qualifying
Porsche 911 GT3-RSJune 06, 2006, 09:20:17 PM +0100
US3N
GTR
NGT
1:31.903
97.069mph
Emmo
Race
Porsche 911 GT3-RSJune 06, 2006, 09:20:17 PM +0100
US3N
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« on: May 25, 2006, 09:07:47 AM +0100 »

NGT Sprint Cup - Season 3, Round 4 at Donington Park

Date: Tuesday 6th June

Practice 1: 8:30pm (10 mins)
Practice 2: 8:40pm (5 mins)
Qual 2: 8:45pm (28 mins)
Warmup: 9:13pm (2 mins)
Race: 9:15pm (40 mins)

Cars allowed: Ferrari 360, Porsche 911 GT3-RS, Porsche 911 Bi-Turbo, Mosler, Vertigo or Morgan. (Lotus Elise, BMW Z3M, Porsche GT3 Cup are allowed but will not score points.)
Weather: Dry

Server: UKGTR NGT Sprint S3
Password: Server Password is shown in the Password Board and is available to the relevant registered drivers.

Notes:
(1) Full-time drivers should aim to arrive during Practice 1.
(2) Reserve drivers should not connect to the server until Practice 2.
(3) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(4) See UKGTR Sprint Season 3 Info for general Season 3 info.
(5) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules
(6) The season will be run using a UKGTR carpack which will need to be installed prior to racing. Details of this pack can be found here.
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« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2006, 09:32:45 PM +0100 »

Christ, what a disaster that was.

Manged to clip [RSms]Andy into the hairpin on lap 1, then went off on lap 2, trying to get off the racing line I gave Edza nowhere to go but into me.

Apologies guys, totally my fault Sad

Dunno what's wrong with me at the moment, i can't seem to finish a race  Embarrassed
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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2006, 09:53:56 PM +0100 »

I gotta discuss some things with my hardware and my software and myself. Was training before race (open training, alone on track), made 1.32.4. Got 1.32.9 in quali session - ok, a bit of excitement, not clean laps, lots a ppl (great turnout  clap ). Then in race, the car was behaving ... don't know. Sometimes understearing, sometimes overstearing, once fronts locked up, then rears. I got a blue flag every time I passed Old Hairpin - even if noone was around. After about a half race of constant losing positons, lousy grip and whatever I got fed up with it. Too bad, as I really like this circuit.  Angry

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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2006, 09:55:57 PM +0100 »

Just wanna say thanks to all the guys for using my car as a pinball, much appreciated Angry. I got rammed off again, this time in lap 1 (what a sursprise). [...]
Had to push hard to get back up the field and blew up 15 minutes before the end.

Man, am I annoyed right now. These races are supposed to be fun, but with some kamikaze pilots out there it's more likely to take the blood under your nails.

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« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2006, 10:08:28 PM +0100 »

Sorry Gents. Put in a bad performance. Yesterday 1:32- 1:33's no problem. Today no chance. At the start I cliped the back of someone on the start finish straight. For that I appologise. Is it neccesary to get round the final corner then the first guys to back everyone up. Oh and Ruskus, If A. Nother-Driver slowed you up. Why nopt overtake?Huh?

Thanks all. Catch you at Anders
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« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2006, 10:13:00 PM +0100 »

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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2006, 10:13:09 PM +0100 »

Exciting race for me, wasnt pleased with my quali as a 32.3 is my pb but could only manage a 33.6 , had loads of understeer for some reason Huh.
Spun on third lap of race at coppice which put me back to 24th or 25th i think , Couldnt get any temperature into the front tyres and they only started to come in on lap 15.
Battled back to 10th in the end which was good fun. Smiley
Tires were brand new at the end ,they were better on lap 25 than they were on lap 5, need to do some set up work me thinks.

Grats to Emmo on the win and appolgies to Gerald for pulling out on him after i spun , i thought there was enough room fo you to go behind me, sorry mate.
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« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2006, 10:14:09 PM +0100 »

...some Einstein showing his drivingskills.

Don't think it was me this time!!

Enjoyed that - qualified 28th (I think) after very little practice on this circuit, but had a steady first 25 minutes, sensible laps getting quick bit by bit, and avoiding trouble.  This brought me up to around 19th where I had a good tussle with a couple of guys until I spun as tyre wear kicked in and that carried on to the end of the race - even when I was trying to take it steadier (slower).

Nonetheless, with the retirements etc I finished 19th, and after qualifying that was a good result for me.

Cracking turnout, shame a few guys had a bad race....
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« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2006, 10:15:16 PM +0100 »

What a race. From 20th to 27th back to 13th  Smiley

Got punted off in the first lap, rejoined almost last and tried to fight my way back up again. I would like to apoligize to the driver I rearended in the Esses in lap 3. I tried to avoid you but I locked up Sad

Finished 13th, so I'm happy Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2006, 10:16:00 PM +0100 »

How the hell can I hold you up when we are fighting for position ? I was in front of you, and it is not my fault if you can not get  past me ! ?
just think of Alonso and Schumacher at Imola, did they moan after the race ? NO....they enjoyed it and I did so too !

I never drove ZigZag ! I defended the line !
even though it doesen`T matter , cause you blew the engine anyway !

Dude, don't blow it up. All I said is that you held me up, but I was unable to overtake you. I had to avoid a crash at some point because you braked much earlier than me. That cost me lot's of time on the guys infront. I'm not saying you held me up by unacceptable driving, not at all. It was just that I was quicker at some corners, but the lack of power in the 360 made it impossible for me to overtake you. Nor did I try a kamikaze move on you. I just stayed behind you hoping for a mistake.

So instead of twisting my words, why not PM me to ask me what I meant.
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« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2006, 10:16:02 PM +0100 »

No idea how I finished 3rd. Another consistent no mistakes race I guess. Qualified 6th and just drove at my own pace trying not to do anything silly. Didn't really battle with anyone after the first few laps. Paul chased me down in the last few laps but I had it under control and eased off a little with 2 to go to take a podium and much needed points for Team Shark.

I also had the blue flags in the first 10 or so minutes at the old hairpin. No idea what that was about, was quite irritating. There was a bit of warp going on at the start, not a lot, but a little.
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« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2006, 10:16:36 PM +0100 »

No worries Pops, I'm in this series for the enormous amount of fun that it gives me (having given up on trying to emulate the aliens out there - you know who you are  laugh )

Had lots of laughs and spins....and some quite remarkable laps for me (or so I thought at the time - might just check the laptimes when they're published  dots)
Still, got somewhere around 19th in the end I think....me happy chappy!

Great turnout, not sure if the last race had as many but I did suffer some intermittant lag every few laps - it was pretty bad for the first 5 laps then seemed to disappear and then came back toward the end for two different laps - was that due to people leaving at the end or the sheer load at the start?

Anyway, cheers all for a great race, hope I didn't slow any of you too much lapping me.
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« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2006, 10:18:36 PM +0100 »

I must ask what the hell happened at the start, everyone shot off out the last turn then the leader slows right down and nearly causes a massive accident.....

I thought the leader should group the grid up before the start finish, like two corners before

Check the replay it was close....
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« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2006, 10:18:47 PM +0100 »

Really enjoyed that race, fantastic racing from start to finish with numerous other fast guys along the way.  Cool

Qually was very tough, just couldnt get a clean lap for ages due to traffic or mistakes then got it all together to set a couple of quick times and a new PB of 1:32.8...yeehaw. angel Better than that, i actually pipped my arch rival Truetom for a change...revenge for all the times he has done it to me  Tongue and qualied 7th place.

Race started well, stuck in a sarnie with Shark in front and TT behind. All was well for a few laps then the bloody back end broke away unexpectedly on the uphill right turn and i had to sit and watch in a slow half spin as several cars shot past   :'( Shame as i really wanted to have a good little battle with my friendly rivals  Embarrassed

Anyway, rejoined in 13th and set about catching the pack in front. Paul968 had also had a half spin and the pair of us began to cut through the pack of cars moving up about 5-6 places until i caught up with TT, only to run wide at the bottom of craners whilst watching my mirrors. Managed to do that twice, both times when i got near TT....his face must put me off  Grin

The last quarter of the race was pure hard adrenaline racing as i diced with the RSM guys and Mo for lap after lap, eventually getting past both individually on the nasty tight hairpin turn near end of lap. Mo then retired a little later and i was left to fend off the hard chasing RS guy in another porker...fortunately his tyres seemed as worn as mine and i held on to bring it home in 6th place which i am very pleased with considering the talent on display tonight and the full (fantastic) grid.  rockon

Great racing.  Cool

ps forgot to add...most scary moment of the race was plunging down into the thick black smoke of Ruskus blown engine in craners whilst flat out in 5th gear !! Shocked ....reminded me of the F1 Coulthard in Monaco crash a couple of years ago  eek  Glad i got through it unscathed  Kiss
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« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2006, 10:19:48 PM +0100 »

now statement to my race !

I enjoyed the race hell of a lot ! thx for the race ! grats to the Top 3 !
thx to Ruskus and Rich_A giving me a interesting race !
I was sweating like mad !

After the warmup lap I was real confused seeing, leaving the final turn before s/f line the field was the whole way up, so I accelerated cause of thinking everybody was pushing away. Then suddenly the whole front of me braked, I hardly braked down and managed to not hit anybody !

I think I was 12 after the start then........had to avoid peep spinning around, then I think it was lap 3,4 or 5 when Ruskus showed up in my mirror !
we had a hard battle for some laps until I outbreaked myself, he passed me but got hit by some other driver.
then I was following a Mosler and [RSms] RS with a 2 sec gap a while.
Rich showed up a couple of laps later, we had some close racing for some laps until he spun....when he was gone Ruskus showed up again....pushing me into a mistake !

just half a lap later the sky was going black............Jeff blew the engine......from then on I had some time to rest, bout 5 mins, until Rich showed up again and was pushing me until the end of the race.............sweating like a wild cow I managed to stay in front of him !

great race , thx !
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