by SimRacing.org.uk   

Read this first!    
 
April 25, 2024, 10:41:20 PM +0100 *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

Login with username, password and session length
Series
Recent
Forthcoming
News: Upcoming Events are as follows: 1 - RRE/AC/ACC Sunday - No event ; 2 - GTL Monday - No event 3 - AC Wed - No event 4 - RRE Thursday - No event

RACE SERIES KEY A19=Assetto Corsa, E10=Raceroom Experience, L23=UKGTL GT Legends, LN2=Legacy NoGrip GT Legends, LNE1=Legacy NoGrip GT Legends Endurance races
 
  Start Here      Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register     LM2 Replays Downloads Rules Links Circuits Teams  
Linked Events
  • UKGTL - Zolder: June 22, 2006
June 22, 2006, 09:14:31 PM +0100 - Zolder (2002-2008) - UKGTL Ladder GTC-65
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Pero_Grozni
 RS Motorsport
AC Cobra 427 (#859) GTC-65 2 +0.166
87.087mph
1 37:45.023
82.325mph
20 1:48.027
86.306mph
Dunlop  
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
AC Cobra 427 (#859) GTC-65 1 1:46.893
87.222mph
2 +14.962
81.785mph
20 1:47.944
86.373mph
Dunlop  
Aagramn
 Team Shark
Porsche 914-6 (#370) GTC-TC-76 3 +3.414
84.522mph
3 +52.980
80.443mph
20 1:50.547
84.339mph
Dunlop  
pribeiro
 Ghostspeed
Lotus Elan 26R (#623) GTC-65 7 +4.270
83.872mph
4 +1:03.060
80.095mph
20 1:51.529
83.596mph
Dunlop  
ASSASSINO
 Ghostspeed
Lotus Elan 26R (#610) GTC-65 5 +4.031
84.052mph
5 +1:19.987
79.517mph
20 1:51.547
83.583mph
Dunlop  
Dan Minton
 Team RVS
Lotus Elan 26R (#620) GTC-65 10 +4.859
83.429mph
6 +1:28.616
79.225mph
20 1:51.631
83.520mph
Dunlop  
Bernie Lomax
 Ze Penguin Brotherhood
Porsche 914-6 (#370) GTC-TC-76 8 +4.317
83.836mph
7 +1:29.395
79.199mph
20 1:50.867
84.095mph
Dunlop  
locutos ukgtr
 28CD Motorsports
AC Cobra 427 (#859) GTC-65 9 +4.442
83.742mph
8 +1:43.368
78.732mph
20 1:51.752
83.429mph
Dunlop  
JohnnyDee
 Ghostspeed
Lotus Elan 26R (#652) GTC-65 11 +5.432
83.004mph
9 (+1) +1:52.879
78.417mph
20 1:52.558
82.832mph
Dunlop  
Oilseal
 Team Oldie Racing
Porsche 914-6 (#370) GTC-TC-76 14 +6.984
81.873mph
10 +1L
77.113mph
19 1:53.720
81.986mph
Dunlop  
LeH
 
Lotus Elan 26R (#623) GTC-65 6 +4.225
83.905mph
11 +9.920
76.781mph
19 1:50.739
84.193mph
Dunlop  
Baz
 
Lotus Elan 26R (#602) GTC-65 15 +7.358
81.605mph
12 +17.442
76.532mph
19 1:54.663
81.311mph
Dunlop  
Don
 Legends Racing
Lotus Elan 26R (#620) GTC-65 18 +8.538
80.770mph
13 +19.049
76.479mph
19 1:55.122
80.987mph
Dunlop  
TinMan
 Team Oldie Racing
TVR Griffith 400 (#857) GTC-65 16 +7.488
81.512mph
14 +20.454
76.432mph
19 1:54.243
81.610mph
Dunlop  
popabawa
 Legends Racing
Lotus Elan 26R (#623) GTC-65 17 +8.103
81.076mph
15 +22.401
76.368mph
19 1:55.255
80.894mph
Dunlop  
OSiriS
 
Porsche 914-6 (#370) GTC-TC-76 13 +5.930
82.638mph
16 (+2) +36.913
75.893mph
19 1:54.032
81.761mph
Dunlop  
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
TVR Griffith 400 (#879) GTC-65 20 +9.373
80.190mph
17 +40.666
75.772mph
19 1:55.790
80.520mph
Dunlop  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Porsche 914-6 (#370) GTC-TC-76 4 +3.683
84.317mph
18 +1:05.581
74.973mph
19 1:51.240
83.813mph
Dunlop  
Andy Charman
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 914-6 (#370) GTC-TC-76 19 +8.829
80.567mph
19 +2L
72.900mph
18 1:54.487
81.436mph
Dunlop  
BillThomas
 
Porsche 914-6 (#370) GTC-TC-76 21 +9.906
79.824mph
20 +12.851
72.496mph
18 1:58.627
78.594mph
Dunlop  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Lotus Elan 26R (#602) GTC-65 12 +5.544
82.921mph
21 +5L 15 1:52.655
82.761mph
unknown
Dunlop  
longskater1969
 28CD Motorsports
Shelby Daytona Coupe (#856) GTC-65 22 +17L 3 2:02.896
75.864mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Jamera
 28CD Motorsports
Porsche 914-6 (#370) GTC-TC-76 22 +12.753
77.925mph
23 +18L 2 3:34.716
43.422mph
unknown
Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 192s

Incident involving Phil Kerins, JohnnyDee and Shark. Phil states hes having problems with Sharks ghosting car and tags the back of him. JohnnyDee reports that Phil is coming to fast down the straight, as drivers head toward the spot where pit limiter is to be engaged, and rear-ends Johnny. Close examination of the replay shows that Shark is having technical issues, in my replay from 158s to 217s Sharks car is "hung" in the right hander after the chicane so I cant verify Phils ghost problem but agree there is a problem. However, I have to agree with JohnnyDee, Phil appears to be going to fast and brakes to late to avoid rear ending Johnny. Even allowing for a ghosting car this incident should not have happened.


Server replay time: 290s

JohnnyDee misses his braking point into the 2nd chicane and rear ends Locutos who as a result veers into Dan Minton. Locutos goes through the gravel trap collecting a cut track warning, Dan Minton loses a place. Johnny does allow Dan to re-pass on the next lap, penalty reduced by 1.


Server replay time: 430s

Several incidents reported by JohnnyDee involving Shark. Shark has apologised for any problems he caused during the race in public forum, he was not aware he was lagging or he would have dropped.

Technical issue.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 1424s

Reported incidents at 1424 and 1444 by Popabawa and 1460 by Don. Complaints of intimidating flashing lights by Ruskus and Pero when lapping. I quote from rules on lights usage:

"Drivers may flash their headlights (either on-off during the day or off-on during the night) to warn other drivers of their presence. However, a driver being flashed shall not be obligated to let them pass".

Quite frankly Don and Pops I see nothing intimidating in the replay, the 2 lead racers are simply telling you they are there, and obviously it worked. Judging from past incidents where lapped drivers have failed to notice the blue flashing light on the dash warning of an impending car about to lap them, I think Ruskus and Pero are well within there rights.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 1472s

Bill Thomas locks his brakes and loses time into the turn. JohnnyDee states that Bill came back through the racing line on the exit of the turn forcing Johnny to back off and lose time. The replay shows Bill exited the turn slowly but DID NOT do anything untoward. Johnnys speed though the turn carries him naturally towards the point Bills car occupied and therefore Johnny would have to back off to avoid contact unless he expects other drivers to stop and let him by.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 1520s

Bill Thomas approaches the left turn after the S/F straight. He is slower than JohnnyDee who carries much more speed into the turn locking the front in doing so. Johnny states that Bill swung out at the last instant from the left lane onto the racing line. Do I have a different replay to everyone else? I see nothing wrong with Bills line or the way he moved to position himself for the turn. However, Bill should by now have been aware that he was being lapped and would have been better off staying on the left side of track taking a tighter and slower line through the turn allowining JohnnyDee to pass safely.

  • BillThomas (Bill)advice — Be aware of drivers lapping you, blue light flash on dash.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GT Legends
GTC-65
1:46.893
87.222mph
Jeffrey
Qualifying
AC Cobra 427June 22, 2006, 09:14:31 PM +0100
LLG
GT Legends
GTC-65
1:47.944
86.373mph
Jeffrey
Race
AC Cobra 427June 22, 2006, 09:14:31 PM +0100
LLG
Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 5
  Print  
Author Topic: UKGTL mid-range 65 at Zolder - 22nd June  (Read 16550 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
Jeffrey
Director, AC
SimRacing.org.uk Staff
Hero Member
****
Posts: 7029


View Profile
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2006, 04:07:29 PM +0100 »

How does that score ladder work?
Logged
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
Director General
SimRacing.org.uk Staff
Hero Member
****
Posts: 15100


Currum auriga quasi furtivum


View Profile WWW
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2006, 06:22:37 PM +0100 »

How does that score ladder work?

It's explained in the rules, and the car ratings are published under the Scoring link on the standings, but basically don't worry about it. Tongue Cheesy
Logged

To finish first, first you must have fins.
Madd-RIP
Full Member
***
Posts: 1196


Power and Glory slave


View Profile
« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2006, 07:15:17 PM +0100 »

Sad Seems as though I'm in the minority then, and due to it being on a Thursday and at the set times, I'll only be able to drive 1 in 3 races, absolutely gutted, I'm not going to really feature at all in the ladder, like I said gutted. death
Logged


will16v
Full Member
***
Posts: 715


PSN: will_16v XBL: will16v


View Profile
« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2006, 05:42:16 PM +0100 »

Hopefully make this one - not sure if i could race if the start times were brought forward really.

Tha later the better for me...
Logged

popabawa
Legendary Leader
Former Moderators
Hero Member
**
Posts: 4939


Less yapping and more lapping!


View Profile
« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2006, 07:58:41 PM +0100 »

Amazing times there Ruskus, can't get anywhere near 'em Cheesy

I'm looking forward to this, Zolder is a nice track.
Logged

Legends Racing simracing team
Simon Gymer
Former Moderators
Hero Member
**
Posts: 9021

Cool Bite


View Profile WWW
« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2006, 08:29:19 PM +0100 »

Amazing times there Ruskus, can't get anywhere near 'em Cheesy

Yeah, No idea how he gets those times. I'm 4 seconds off those.

I'm looking forward to this, Zolder is a nice track.

Can't say I'm a fan, the track needs a bit more width, it feels like a rally course rather than a proper circuit.
Logged

Intel I7-4790K @ 4.0Ghz
MSI NVidia 2080 Ti Gaming X TRIO
16GB DDR3 2400Mhz
3x 1920x1080 27" monitors
Thrustmaster T300GTE Wheel + T3PA Pro Pedals
Simon Gymer
Former Moderators
Hero Member
**
Posts: 9021

Cool Bite


View Profile WWW
« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2006, 09:57:47 PM +0100 »

What a waste of time.

Constant track reloads.
Disconnection.
Only 2 laps in qualifying.
Dissapearing cars.
Cut track warnings for genuine driving mistakes and running off track and losing time.
2 stop go penalites.

Guessing my car caused some confusion at the start. Sorry, but everyone dissapeared just before the final chicane and I got hit before that (i'm guessing my car dissapeared and you didn't know I was there). People weren't on the rev limiter yet and I had no idea where you were so I sort of went slowish down the left side of the track and then people appeared again and I had somehow moved up to 7th from 12th-ish So i dropped back on the left as we passed the line down to 12th not wanting to have gained any advantage wondering if I was about to be disco'd, but no it carried on. Wasn't sure people could actually see me during the race at the start, but soon realised they could. I was getting P23 on my board yet was in P12. All very wierd.


Logged

Intel I7-4790K @ 4.0Ghz
MSI NVidia 2080 Ti Gaming X TRIO
16GB DDR3 2400Mhz
3x 1920x1080 27" monitors
Thrustmaster T300GTE Wheel + T3PA Pro Pedals
OSiriS
Full Member
***
Posts: 376



View Profile
« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2006, 10:04:08 PM +0100 »

Ya it was me who hit you Shocked, you were ghosting all race
Logged

Phill Kerins
Simon Gymer
Former Moderators
Hero Member
**
Posts: 9021

Cool Bite


View Profile WWW
« Reply #23 on: June 22, 2006, 10:07:13 PM +0100 »

Ya it was me who hit you Shocked, you were ghosting all race

I figured once the massive dissapearing act had been and gone and I knew people could see me that I was ok, but obviously my car was a bit dodgy. Sorry about that, if I'd know it was warping/ghosting that badly I would have disconnected.

Internet in my area obviously not happy today i guess.
Logged

Intel I7-4790K @ 4.0Ghz
MSI NVidia 2080 Ti Gaming X TRIO
16GB DDR3 2400Mhz
3x 1920x1080 27" monitors
Thrustmaster T300GTE Wheel + T3PA Pro Pedals
JohnnyDee
Newbie
*
Posts: 36


View Profile
« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2006, 10:09:55 PM +0100 »

Yeah, Shark, isn't SIMBIN wonderful!??!  I want to write them a letter of complaint explaining how GTL users have been abandoned and how I cannot justify spending money on GTR2 until they FIX GTL!!  I paid full price for an unfinished game with big problems that they gave up on.  Very disappointing.

I was behind you a few times in the race when you lagged; surprizing, but didn't take me out or anything.  Then one time I caught up to you at the chicane -- not sure if you had a problem, but I was on normal pace -- and then locked my rears before I hit you, but no damage.

My board showed you in the correct pos'n, but I've seen that bug before.  If your client misses an update at race start then the displayed position can be totally hosed for the whole race.  Really sucks.

Sorry for the (semi-)OT rant, lol!

     -=> J <=-
Logged
Aagramn
Former Moderators
Sr. Member
**
Posts: 1837



View Profile WWW
« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2006, 10:11:12 PM +0100 »

Good race for me. Took the 914 as it gave me the best chance of finishing, easy car to drive. Was suprised to find myself 3rd on the grid, although I had a quicker car than a lot of drivers. Pero & Ruskus were in a different class to me and quickly pulled away, while I steadily pulled away from the rest of the pack. Without any traffic to worry about I was able to lap very consistatly in the low 1:51s. Bit of a lonely race, but dead chuffed to bring it home in 3rd after some poor recent races. Smiley

The start on the limiter worked very well. Will be interesting to see how my 3rd place in the 914 translates into ranking points on the ladder.

Sorry to hear about the problems Shark.  Sad
Logged

Team Shark

GT Rank Name: Michael Bennett

The correct procedure is brake-swear, not swear-brake.
Jeffrey
Director, AC
SimRacing.org.uk Staff
Hero Member
****
Posts: 7029


View Profile
« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2006, 10:18:34 PM +0100 »

Before this race I did a quick practice lap and managed a 48. So I was pleasantly sursprised to do a 1:46.8 in qually, which is a WC looking at GTLrank clap

From my point of view the pace lap was good, the field was close at the end. Dunno if I should of, but I just typed limiter on when I did, so nobody would be caught by surprise (when and where).

As expected I had some good tussles with Peter again. After a few laps I made a small mistake at the first chicane and he overtook me. After that it was impossible to overtake him back. Getting close was one thing, overtaking the next.
There were lot's of new guys in this race, which is very good. But sometimes gave a bit of unexpected situations. Also the start from Assasino was amazing Grin, an Elan out accelerating a Cobra...lol Grin

My tyres were completely fried at the end of the race. They were already gone in lap 9, but the last 3 laps were awefull. I spun in lap 19 and trying to do a 180 with a burnout was impossible because of the lack of grip. Trying to drive in a straight line was a duty on it's own.

Good race.

P.S. Anybody have some FTP space for me to host videos on Kiss?
Logged
Simon Gymer
Former Moderators
Hero Member
**
Posts: 9021

Cool Bite


View Profile WWW
« Reply #27 on: June 22, 2006, 10:19:54 PM +0100 »

Yeah, Shark, isn't SIMBIN wonderful!??!

Blimey! are the developers of GTL. Simbin had nothing to do with it, they are just the name on the box.

To be fair, it's a pretty good game, but there are some also some glaring bugs. The corner cutting code is just abysmal and really spoiling things from time to time. The rest, well the internet is the internet, no game can cope really. It does a pretty good job on the whole and when most people in a race are ok, enjoying it and having fun that's the main thing.


Well done on the podiums Teamies!!!
Logged

Intel I7-4790K @ 4.0Ghz
MSI NVidia 2080 Ti Gaming X TRIO
16GB DDR3 2400Mhz
3x 1920x1080 27" monitors
Thrustmaster T300GTE Wheel + T3PA Pro Pedals
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
Director General
SimRacing.org.uk Staff
Hero Member
****
Posts: 15100


Currum auriga quasi furtivum


View Profile WWW
« Reply #28 on: June 22, 2006, 10:37:40 PM +0100 »

Strange sort of race for me, both good fun and enormously frustrating at the same time.

Couldn't find a comfortable setup for the hairy-chested TVR during practice and qually; mostly okay under power but unpredictable under braking. Made a last moment setup tweak just before the race, breaking one of my own golden rules hammer but it worked and the car was much better in the race.

Once again we had people chatting merrily away in qualifying. Angry Stop it! nono

I'll have to watch the start again - I ended up putting the limiter on with quite a bit gap to the car ahead because it wasn't at all clear whether he had put his on or not. Was also surprised to see the person in front not "go go go" until actually reaching the start line but maybe it just did take that long for the wave of 'goingness' to propagate down the snake.

The race was a bit odd really. With the improved setup the TVR was fairly consistent and very, very quick in a straight line, and I could fend off the advances of the slower Elan drivers but not really make any impression on them. Made one big mistake trying to pass a 914 and slid off at T1, a couple of half spins, and was never in any danger of climbing up the order, but was having quite good fun powersliding (and on occaision full-on drifting) the beast. With about 3 to go I missed my braking point for the Gilles Villeneuve chicane, and after that the tyres were shot.
Logged

To finish first, first you must have fins.
picnic
Director, Servers
SimRacing.org.uk Staff
Hero Member
****
Posts: 8114



View Profile
« Reply #29 on: June 22, 2006, 10:37:57 PM +0100 »

Replay available but I'm struggling to import the results.

Can Phill Kerins please let me have your forum nickname.
Logged

Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 5
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Hosted by DaveGymer.com
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
Page created in 0.395 seconds with 60 queries.
anything