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December 02, 2020, 08:42:00 PM +0000 - Zolder (1975-85) - UKGTL Season 20 1983 European Touring Cars
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Daz9
 
Rover Vitesse SD1 (#87006) GTC-TC-76 2 +0.364
89.501mph
1 1:08:44.813
85.319mph
38 1:43.777
89.241mph
Dunlop  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Alfa Romeo GTV6 (#85030) GTC-TC-76 1 1:43.111
89.817mph
2 +1L
82.832mph
37 1:43.404
89.563mph
Pirelli  
Erling G-P
 TEAM-GTLDK
Toyota Corolla Levin GT (#90073) GTC-TC-76 5 +4.573
86.003mph
3 +4.898
82.734mph
37 1:48.148
85.634mph
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
Rover Vitesse SD1 (#84021) GTC-TC-76 6 +5.566
85.217mph
4 +47.664
81.889mph
37 1:47.961
85.782mph
Dunlop  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
VW Golf GTi (#15) GTC-TC-76 10 +6.366
84.595mph
5 +1:00.367
81.641mph
37 1:49.332
84.707mph
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Jaguar XJS (#84001) GTC-TC-76 7 +5.768
85.059mph
6 +2L
80.558mph
36 1:49.059
84.919mph
Dunlop  
phspok
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Ford Escort RS (#87074) GTC-TC-76 9 +5.925
84.937mph
7 +15L 23 1:48.380
85.451mph
unknown
Dunlop  
seniordan
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
MG Metro Turbo (#84061) GTC-TC-76 8 +5.820
85.019mph
8 +24L 14 1:47.425
86.210mph
fuel
Dunlop  
Dimitar Dulichki
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Rover Vitesse SD1 (#84020) GTC-TC-76 3 +0.566
89.327mph
9 +25L 13 1:44.351
88.750mph
unknown
Dunlop  
SpecialKS
 TEAM-GTLDK
Rover Vitesse SD1 (#84004) GTC-TC-76 4 +4.307
86.216mph
10 +32L 6 1:47.536
86.121mph
unknown
Dunlop  
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« on: December 02, 2019, 12:23:28 PM +0000 »

Championship standings HERE

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Car/Track download available by pm to WT

Track: Zolder '75-'85 GP

Car restrictions: Four drives maximum per Division. Check your car allowance here

Points: We are recreating the scoring system that was used in the 1983 ETCC. Overall race result, top 6 scored 9-6-4-3-2-1, In each division, top 10 scored 20-15-12-10-8-6-4-3-2-1.

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins) Drivers must not leave qualifying to change car make.
Race: 20:40 (38 laps)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: x2
Pit stops required: YES

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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2020, 06:51:28 PM +0000 »

I think it's going to be great idea to take off the cut warnings, because at some places just going into the grass and you are given a warning, not even going off with 4 tires.
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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2020, 08:02:14 PM +0000 »

I think it's going to be great idea to take off the cut warnings, because at some places just going into the grass and you are given a warning, not even going off with 4 tires.
I'm not convinced. I've done loads of practice laps here and not had a single cut.
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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2020, 09:02:24 PM +0000 »

Had an off in lap 6 or so, could reenter the track but missed the second interin time.
So that particular lap did not count  Huh and I was automatically a lap back.
But fun as long as it lasted  Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2020, 09:11:37 PM +0000 »

Good chase with Daz and Clive, unfortunately at my pit stop i stop maybe 1-2 cm off the place and the pit crew didn't accepted my car. I stall the engine, try to start it once again for 1-2 minutes without luck and had to retire.
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« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2020, 10:15:58 PM +0000 »

Ah, wondered what had happened to you Dimitar. Had been a tough chase until that point, I couldn't quite get away for a long time.

Quite liking the Rover, drives well, responds to setup changes, and doesn't eat its tires too much either.

Once Dimitar had gone, I was kind of in no mans land in the lead as I knew Clive was in second, but XD was showing him as DNF so I had no idea at all what the gap was. Figured it must be around 20 odd seconds after the pitstops, so got my head down and pushed on as I felt Clive was a little quicker than me, so didn't want him to get close enough to have a go....But how far back he was I've no idea. The second pitstop came and went, still no sign in my mirrors of Clive....So just kept pushing on as I could right till the end, and took the flag for the win.

Well done to the finishers, bad luck to the guys that didn't get there.
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« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2020, 10:26:09 PM +0000 »

Results and replay now posted however the gremlins have had a hand in the overall results table  taz

We will try to get this sorted asap.
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« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2020, 10:54:48 PM +0000 »

I think the overall results table is now corrected.

Please shout out if you see something wrong!
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« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2020, 11:18:21 PM +0000 »

Was having a great time racing Geoff, I could do the turns faster, he was faster down the straight.
nearing 2nd stop, tyres were going off, and the rear had a mind of it's own, went wide losing time a few times
and had 2 stop and goes with no advantage, lost the will to live so left.
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« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2020, 11:33:53 PM +0000 »

I think the overall results table is now corrected.

Please shout out if you see something wrong!

Yep, Erling was in a Div1 car, not Div2.
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« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2020, 12:11:37 AM +0000 »

I think the overall results table is now corrected.

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Yep, Erling was in a Div1 car, not Div2.
Thanks Geoffers, now fixed.
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« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2020, 08:58:50 AM +0000 »

Steady race at the back in my remaining car, the Golf. First dozen or so laps were fun battling with Matt's Escort, as he said the Golf was quicker on the straights but being from a different modder to the other cars it does not have their cornering capabilities. The battle ended shortly after the first pitstops when I rolled the car by taking too much kerb at Boulderberghaarspeld (!!). Rest of the race was a fairly lonely affair, but happy with 5th.

Congrats to Daz, Clive & Erling.  clap clap clap

Also congrats to Erling on winning Div 1, Div 2 & the Overall Championship & also to Daz winning Div 3.  I Am Not Worthy I Am Not Worthy I Am Not Worthy
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« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2020, 09:51:59 AM +0000 »

Grats to the Div winners and to the overall champ.

Also, thanks to whoever thought up this series. The mixture of cars on each grid and all of the possible permutations made the races very enjoyable and challenging.
I confess that I do not do the offline practice that I should for GTL and as a result I often struggle with poor choices and badly handling cars when race time comes. But that does always not detract from the fun.

Last night's race at Zolder was yet another surprise. I had no idea that it was the final race, or that I had that lovely Alfa GTV left to use. Ironically, the Alfa is one of the few cars that I have a setup for and that I feel comfortable with. I think that might have shown in my lap times and pole position?? lol

The start was a concern in case those big Rovers could outdrag me to T1, but I just made it there first. The plan ( there is always a plan, it doesn't always work!) was to try and run away from those Rovers before the first pit stop.

Well, lap 1 followed the script but at the start of lap 2 I was a bit too close to the apex and the kerb at T2. It was enough to put the car on two wheels. which was not unusual for me, but this time I hit the kerb a fraction to hard and the car went up on 2 wheels and just stayed there!!!   scared scared
I was waiting for the dreaded slow roll over...but it just balanced there as Daz and Dimi  swept past  Undecided. I wriggled the steering  and the Alfa eventually dropped back onto all 4 wheels, but I had dropped to 3rd place and a good distance behind two very fast cars  Sad

After a lap to confirm that there was no damage I set about catching Daz and DD, slowly reeling them in as we approached the first pitstops. Catching        up was one thing, but getting past DD was a problem as he had the extra grunt on the straights. Dimi went for the pits a lap before Daz and myself and I did a banzai "in lap" and I suspect that Daz had stretched the fuel for the extra lap? and was slower on his "in lap" as I gained several seconds.

I followed Daz into the pits some 4 secs behind, but feeling good because I had closed the gap. But the cafty sod did not change tyres!! and I did  Undecided !!

I was spitting nails sat in the pits as he drove out to a 20 second lead, but mistakenly figured that he would have to take tyres at the next stop and I would not.
Over the next stint I was closing the gap at around 1-1.5 secs a lap depending on traffic. So after 13 laps of flat out driving I actually followed Daz into the pits for stop 2, only 4 secs behind again!!. I was feeling smug and quite sure that I would be sailing out of the pits whilst his pit crew changed his worn out rubber...........but he left first without changing his tyres again!!!

At least Daz was now in sight as we left the pits and I had been catching him at around a second a lap, so in 5 laps I should be on his tail pipes?? Plus his tyres must be getting old??  At this point I somehow managed to change the monitor view from "in car" to "sitting on the bonnet with dials etc" ??!!

It was whilst I was trying to find and hit the right key to revert to my preferred view that I screwed my race and had a spin. That effectively gave Daz a free pass for the final 12 laps, but I decided to push hard and hope that he made a mistake of his own.  He didn't. I did and outbraked myself at the chicane twice, triggering an SnG with 3 laps to go!!!
Just to compound my pain and embarassment I left the pits and promptly over ran the chicane again .......... another Sng with 1 lap to go lol!! Fortunately I had a huge lead over Erling in 3rd and I was able to hold onto second.

Just a query here about some strange graphics glitches that I noticed in the second half of the race. At a few points around the track my frame rate suddenly dropped off and made things interesting. Did anyone else notice anything? or do I need to look for some background activity on my PC?

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« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2020, 10:28:48 AM +0000 »

Blimey, I had literally no idea you were so close Clive  eek scared, not that there would have been too much I could do.

I had forgotten about you being on 2 wheels, with the amount of lean angle and sparks I genuinely thought you were scraping the door handles...... lol

You are correct, I didn't change tires at all. I have found that if the right foot is applied relatively gently in the early part of the race when the car is heavy, and the car isn't flung around too much, that it does make a good difference to the wear early on, which takes a lot of the pain out of it later. The middle stint was pushing on a bit though, I could have gone faster but not by very much, was trying to stay consistent as the rubber was wearing to the tune of around a second a lap down as you rightly suggest.
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« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2020, 10:54:10 AM +0000 »

So our huge '83 ETCC series finally ends and we have our champions

Division 1

1st Erling G-P  I Am Not Worthy
2nd EvilClive  clap
3rd Geoffers  thumbup2

Division 2

1st Erling G-P  I Am Not Worthy
2nd Geoffers  clap
3rd Dimitar Dulichki  thumbup2

Division 3

1st Daz9  I Am Not Worthy
2nd Erling G-P  clap
3rd Geoffers  thumbup2

Overall

1st Erling G-P  I Am Not Worthy
2nd Geoffers  clap
3rd EvilClive  thumbup2

Well done chaps  thumbup1

Thanks to Geoffers for designing this series and to everyone who took part, great fun.
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