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  • L20LCMT Interlagos: May 13, 2020
May 13, 2020, 08:28:29 PM +0100 - Interlagos (1973-1989) - UKGTL Season 20 Memorial Trophy
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Dimitar Dulichki
 Turbo Racing
Ford Capri Turbo (#69) GTC-TC-76 1 1:20:56.902
106.624mph
29 2:42.742
109.728mph
Goodyear  
Hristo Itchov
 Turbo Racing
Ford Capri Turbo (#58) GTC-TC-76 2 +16.508
106.263mph
29 2:41.056
110.877mph
Goodyear  
Erling G-P
 TEAM-GTLDK
Ford Capri Turbo (#58) GTC-TC-76 3 +51.394
105.508mph
29 2:45.047
108.196mph
Goodyear  
seniordan
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Porsche 935 (#66) GTC-TC-76 4 +2:46.232
103.096mph
29 2:45.509
107.894mph
Goodyear  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
BMW CSL Turbo (#1) GTC-TC-76 5 +1L
102.205mph
28 2:44.677
108.439mph
Goodyear  
AndyL
 
Ford Capri Turbo (#69) GTC-TC-76 6 +40.986
101.355mph
28 2:50.826
104.535mph
Goodyear  
Dominick
 
BMW CSL Turbo (#21) GTC-TC-76 7 +1:00.592
100.954mph
28 2:51.236
104.285mph
Goodyear  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Ford Capri Turbo (#58) GTC-TC-76 8 +1:59.300
99.772mph
28 2:50.278
104.872mph
Goodyear  
Bob M.
  OLD SCHOOL RACING TEAM
Ford Capri Turbo (#69) GTC-TC-76 9 +10L 19 2:51.362
104.208mph
unknown
Goodyear  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Ford Capri Turbo (#69) GTC-TC-76 10 +11L 18 2:47.624
106.532mph
unknown
Goodyear  
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
BMW CSL Turbo (#41) GTC-TC-76 11 +15L 14 2:50.700
104.612mph
suspension
Goodyear  
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GTC-TC-76
2:41.056
110.877mph
Hristo Itchov
Race
Ford Capri TurboMay 13, 2020, 08:28:29 PM +0100
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« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2020, 11:15:39 AM +0100 »

Wishing you all the best Clive. I hope you make a speedy recovery. thumbup1
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« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2020, 12:55:26 PM +0100 »

Not driven the Porsche or BMW for a long time, but I seem to remember that the BMW was quite easy to drive compared with the Porsche. As Clive said the Porsche goes from hardly any power to a huge amount almost instantly making it very hard to control. One of the most difficult parts of racing it is getting it off the line, it either crawls away at a snail's pace or goes wildly out of control with little in between.  cursing
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« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2020, 01:15:12 PM +0100 »

Quietly chuffed that the great Geoffers confirms my impressions of the Porsche  Roll Eyes, maybe I am doing something right even if it is not as quick as the aliens.  Wink
I hate to philosophy about these things, but I am a firm believer that within simracing, setups are all about "what suits you". If you are not comfortable with the virtual car that you are trying to pilot, then you are never going to be fast. You might last 1 or 2 laps with an alien's setup that promises a PB 5 secs faster than what you have achieved, but if you are fighting to keep the beast on the grey stuff it will eventually bite you in the a**!!
It does not matter what values you have for diff/rebound etc, if the car does not respond for you in a predictable and progressive way then you will never drive it quickly. The individual's inputs to the game physics are what determines the on screen action.
Having said that, there are obviously parameters that can be set so wrong that they will never work for anyone, and other values that simply have to be close to a certain mark to work.
In the end it is an algorithm within the software that creates a certain value from a combination of the settings/driver inputs and dictates what happens. The closer we get to the "ideal" number the faster we can drive.
In theory this brings us close to real life racing, but as most of us will never get the chance to drive a Porsche935 in full race trim at 100% around Interlagos, we will never know how accurate the simulation is.

But that does not stop us enjoying the fun  Grin Grin Grin

lecture over, back to the race rig and some practice for Sunday's GPL race at Imola, coz that comes before Wednesday!!
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« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2020, 01:54:02 PM +0100 »

Not driven the Porsche or BMW for a long time
The Porsche has now been updated (V2.0) and seems to handle better than the original version.
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« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2020, 02:57:02 PM +0100 »

OH!!! that is just sooooo sneaky Tony!! 
Just when I was doing some pre race practice and beginning to dial into a car, he moves the goal posts lol.
The only thing in your defence is that it is the same for everyone  Wink
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« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2020, 03:40:32 PM +0100 »

OH!!! that is just sooooo sneaky Tony!! 
Just when I was doing some pre race practice and beginning to dial into a car, he moves the goal posts lol.
The only thing in your defence is that it is the same for everyone  Wink
You misunderstand Clive. Geoffers said that he had not driven the Porsche for a long time. I therefore assume that his experience would be based on the V1.0 version of the 935. I was telling him that IMO V2.0 handles better.
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« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2020, 04:31:49 PM +0100 »

Wishing you all the best Clive. You'd better abandon weight lifting for a couple of weeks I'd say. Take care.
Cheers, Dan
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« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2020, 05:41:16 PM +0100 »

OH!!! that is just sooooo sneaky Tony!! 
Just when I was doing some pre race practice and beginning to dial into a car, he moves the goal posts lol.
The only thing in your defence is that it is the same for everyone  Wink
You misunderstand Clive. Geoffers said that he had not driven the Porsche for a long time. I therefore assume that his experience would be based on the V1.0 version of the 935. I was telling him that IMO V2.0 handles better.

Yes probably would have been v1.0 Tony, I think it was not long after it was released, seems to me the car builder overdid the amount of turbo lag he built into it. The real car would not have been that tricky to drive as it was mainly used for endurance events & sold to gentleman driver customers. Will have to give it another try later.
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« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2020, 06:28:17 PM +0100 »

OK Tony, you might just have talked yourself out of that one lol. I confess that I was a little puzzled that I could not see a new download for the Porsche Roll Eyes
TBH I was secretly hoping that there was a new improved version with better handling that I could try  Wink But I am under no illusion that the fast boys will be way quicker in these beasts than I can manage. I recall that series a few years ago with the turbo Capris that I just could not drive, having to opt for the most docile car available for each race. My brain is just too slow for these missiles.  wacko
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« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2020, 06:56:21 PM +0100 »

Is it the same Capri Turbo we used some years ago, or a different one ? (seemed to be a new download)
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« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2020, 09:56:17 PM +0100 »

Is it the same Capri Turbo we used some years ago, or a different one ? (seemed to be a new download)
Yes, it's the same mod.

EDIT: I think I changed the cars "Buy" value down to 0.
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« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2020, 02:06:14 AM +0100 »

I trust that you will all feel sorry for me in future races, and allow me to win everything for the rest of the year  Grin

Just be in 2nd if I'm leading on the last lap and the glory is all yours!

Hope it all goes well with the pacemaker and wishing you a speedy recovery!

As for the cars, I have no idea how these 3 handle, but now that you've all complained about the Porsche, I feel like I have no choice but to try and wrestle with it!  Grin If you see me enter the actual race with another car though, don't judge me too hard...  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #27 on: May 11, 2020, 08:01:34 AM +0100 »

All the best to you Clive !
Make sure you get the "race pace" maker, you might be tempted by the pole pace maker but it may not be the best choice for those 25 years of grumpiness  Wink
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« Reply #28 on: May 11, 2020, 08:44:28 AM +0100 »

Hi guys


I'm a friend of Hristo, I may join in for a few GTL races, I'll confirm tomorrow if I can do interlagos. He can vouch for me or tell you guys how bad I am


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« Reply #29 on: May 11, 2020, 10:26:04 AM +0100 »

I had a brief go with all 3 cars. I can get round with all 3, but I can't "race" with anything other than the Ford.
The pork is, exactly as Geoff says. It either crawls off the line or sets off out of control. Will thow the back out with
the slightest bit of throttle. Could be fun for masochists, or Bulgarians, but has to be ridiculously exaggerated from the real car
The beemer is like the beemer series we did a few years ago, much the same as the pork, but not so much
That one could be ok with a delicate right foot. The Capri is a pussycat in comparison.
It doesn't help that this track is not so slick as others we use, there are a lot of bumps and camber changes
that make these cars probably harder to drive than one of the smoother tracks. Good historical mix though
will be a good event  Grin
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