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April 29, 2020, 08:43:02 PM +0100 - Mugello (GP) - UKGTL Season 20 1983 European Touring Cars
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Hristo Itchov
 Turbo Racing
Alfa Romeo GTV6 (#86075) GTC-TC-76 1 2:03.945
92.786mph
1 52:48.113
87.121mph
24 2:04.412
92.438mph
Pirelli  
Dimitar Dulichki
 Turbo Racing
Alfa Romeo GTV6 (#86058) GTC-TC-76 2 +2.417
91.012mph
2 +1:17.606
85.038mph
24 2:06.608
90.835mph
Pirelli  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Renault 5 GT Turbo (#87027) GTC-TC-76 4 +3.417
90.297mph
3 +1:27.527
84.779mph
24 2:08.894
89.224mph
Michelin  
Erling G-P
 TEAM-GTLDK
Toyota Corolla Levin GT (#90073) GTC-TC-76 6 +8.498
86.833mph
4 +2:13.136
83.608mph
24 2:13.262
86.299mph
Dunlop  
Bob M.
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Alfa Romeo GTV6 (#86049) GTC-TC-76 10 +9.830
85.968mph
5 +1L
83.385mph
23 2:12.119
87.046mph
Pirelli  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Rover Vitesse SD1 (#84004) GTC-TC-76 3 +2.987
90.603mph
6 +3.037
83.305mph
23 2:07.617
90.117mph
Dunlop  
misnoimis
 
Alfa Romeo GTV6 (#86041) GTC-TC-76 8 +9.268
86.331mph
7 +9.294
83.141mph
23 2:11.966
87.147mph
Pirelli  
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
Toyota Corolla Levin GT (#86067) GTC-TC-76 7 +9.241
86.348mph
8 +12.823
83.049mph
23 2:12.236
86.969mph
Dunlop  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
MG Metro Turbo (#85034) GTC-TC-76 5 +6.649
88.062mph
9 +23.610
82.769mph
23 2:11.932
87.169mph
Dunlop  
SpecialKS
 TEAM-GTLDK
MG Metro Turbo (#84061) GTC-TC-76 9 +9.828
85.970mph
10 +47.050
82.166mph
23 2:12.304
86.924mph
Dunlop  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
VW Golf GTi (#44) GTC-TC-76 11 +2L
79.162mph
22 2:17.981
83.348mph
Goodyear  
Dominick
 
VW Golf GTi (#33) GTC-TC-76 11 +11.376
84.986mph
12 +57.954
77.752mph
22 2:16.244
84.410mph
Goodyear  
seniordan
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
VW Golf GTi (#46) GTC-TC-76 12 +13.242
83.830mph
13 +4L
69.721mph
20 2:17.200
83.822mph
Goodyear  
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« Reply #30 on: May 01, 2020, 02:18:21 AM +0100 »

Tony, all the powerful cars need to make 2 stops
At most circuits in this series, yes. But we thought at Mugello you would only need one stop for fuel. Was your 2nd stop just a splash and dash?

No, I went for 3 stints of equal amount of fuel, 8 laps each, but I don't think it mattered overall. Even if I had run 2 stints on full tanks and did a splash and dash at the end, the time loss would have been the same, more or less.

Oh, and before I forget again - would it be possible to setup the server to allow for people on a flying lap to finish it when the session is over? It happened to me in Enna and now it happened to Fulvio, that we were on a flyer and server switched to the next session (race), cutting our attempts short. I know it would prolong the races, but not by more than 2 minutes at the longer tracks. Could still keep the current settings for tracks like Nordschleife.
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« Reply #31 on: May 01, 2020, 02:19:21 AM +0100 »

Setups

Maybe slightly off topic but Geoffers created an online folder (etcc83) for setups for this series. Maybe if anyone should care to share his setups they could be laced in this folder?

And how about making another folder for the TC Legends?

I know at least one happy user.

Cheers, Dan

Ps. @ Dom, I decided stupid action deserved a firm penalty.

Ps. @Tony, I used PayPal this week with no probs.

I'll upload my Alfa GTV setup there next time I start the game, if I don't forget.
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« Reply #32 on: May 01, 2020, 10:17:10 AM +0100 »

Oh, and before I forget again - would it be possible to setup the server to allow for people on a flying lap to finish it when the session is over? It happened to me in Enna and now it happened to Fulvio, that we were on a flyer and server switched to the next session (race), cutting our attempts short. I know it would prolong the races, but not by more than 2 minutes at the longer tracks. Could still keep the current settings for tracks like Nordschleife.
The qualy time start and length of session is clearly explained in the race announcement. Driver's need to adhere to these times. Same rules for everyone.

Once qualy starts it's all automatic anyway, so I cannot stop or alter when qualy finishes.
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« Reply #33 on: May 01, 2020, 12:09:34 PM +0100 »

Predictably not a good race for me, just could not really attack the corners as I would have liked as the Metro was too uncertain about where it wanted to go. Caught me out at least half a dozen times including rolling it twice.

Congrats to Hristo, Dimitar & Fulvio on the podium & to Clive & Erling winning their respective classes.  clap clap clap

About qually, at least GTL gives you some extra time (about 1 minute I think) after qually time is up, in RaceRoom it is instantly over when the time runs out.
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« Reply #34 on: May 01, 2020, 02:27:31 PM +0100 »

Demanding race for me.  First half was mainly a hard battle with Tony.  Found myself held up through the twisty bits by of all cars the Alfa GTV. Did not expect that, and twice Tony exploited it to get past, which was rather annoying.  He had obviously done his homework in the Corolla, or maybe I hadn't done mine. He appeared to be faster on both the straights and in the corners, which had me scratching my head - if he had tinkered with the aerodynamics (forgot to check if it's possible with this car), then I would have expected one of the two, but not both.  May also be that there's simply something fundamental eluding me with these cars - Clive's qual lap in the SDI was 6 seconds faster than my best lap with it offline  blink

Late in the first stint, Tony & I were side by side approaching the chicane. I tried to make sure there was enough room for him, but as a result went too far over the curbs, lost control and spun out, dropping to 9th.  Single pit stop soon after, for fuel only.  Quickly found myself in a lonely 4th after the stop.  Had a 6-8 secs gap to the car in 5th and took a very concentrated drive to keep it till the end, on increasingly worn tyres. 

Grats to the unbeatable Bulgarian team & Fulvio on the podium, and hats off to Dimitar for the video and commentary!  thumbup1

Bit nostalgic for me with the Corolla GT. Back in 1989, the Corolla GT Coupe came very close to being my first car.  Had found a very nice black example, but regrettably a lady had dibs on it and ended up buying it.  Instead I got a nice red fwd Corolla GT hatchback.  That 16V Twin Cam engine was a gem, and with adjustable Koni shocks and fat Yokohama tyres, it was almost impossible to unstick in the dry  wub
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« Reply #35 on: May 01, 2020, 04:16:58 PM +0100 »

Yes, some very good battles with Erling, amongst the better class Alfa's of Bob and Mike. However my superior racecraft  angel proved sufficient to reach my pit stop with a commanding lead (oh and Erling's spin out helped a bit). But I pitted for fuel and tyres and this gave the dastardly Dane a 15sec. lead which I just could not reduce.
I've sent Erling my setup for educational purposes only.
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« Reply #36 on: May 01, 2020, 06:08:35 PM +0100 »

I am surprised by Erling's comment regarding the pace ( and his unusual lack of success ) in the SDI, as I thought that I was still missing about 3-4 secs on what I eventually achieved. That Alfa does appear to me, to be very quick in the right hands and capable of taking on the bigger engine beasts...…. must try that car out soon lol.

Tony can confirm that I only got my dedicated install rejuvenated a few hours before race time and to get myself sorted with these cars. That was all thanks to Mr B. Gates and his update last week  Undecided.

In fact I only chose the Rover because I had not used any of the Big Banger class before, and simply stuck a pin in the list. Some thanks have to go to Hristo, who was practising on the server with Dimitar when I dropped in for a quick test late afternoon. I would like to think that my setup was evolving in the same direction, but when H offered me his Enna setup it probably saved me 30-45 mins of tweaks and adjustments. Throughout the race I was still learning to drive the big tank, but pitstop woes/lack of fuel/worn tyres all had an effect.
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« Reply #37 on: May 02, 2020, 01:33:50 AM +0100 »

Oh, and before I forget again - would it be possible to setup the server to allow for people on a flying lap to finish it when the session is over? It happened to me in Enna and now it happened to Fulvio, that we were on a flyer and server switched to the next session (race), cutting our attempts short. I know it would prolong the races, but not by more than 2 minutes at the longer tracks. Could still keep the current settings for tracks like Nordschleife.
The qualy time start and length of session is clearly explained in the race announcement. Driver's need to adhere to these times. Same rules for everyone.

Once qualy starts it's all automatic anyway, so I cannot stop or alter when qualy finishes.

I just checked and it turns out GTL doesn't have the option that rFactor has (despite using the same engine), for allowing drivers to complete a flying lap at the end of a session. I assumed it does have it, so my bad.
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« Reply #38 on: May 02, 2020, 01:37:34 AM +0100 »

Some thanks have to go to Hristo, who was practising on the server with Dimitar when I dropped in for a quick test late afternoon. I would like to think that my setup was evolving in the same direction, but when H offered me his Enna setup it probably saved me 30-45 mins of tweaks and adjustments.

You're welcome, Clive, though I imagine the demands for the setup on this car were probably very different from Enna! Also, I must apologize for being so impatient when I was lapping you, because you were still trying to catch up the drivers in front and letting me through on that straight surely cost you a few seconds. I had no real reason to flash my headlights at you like that, so it was a bit of a jerk move. I'm sorry.
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