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April 22, 2020, 08:33:08 PM +0100 - Rouen (1974-94) - UKGTL Season 20 Renault 5 Turbo Cup
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Dimitar Dulichki
 Turbo Racing
Renault 5 GT Turbo (#87043) GTC-TC-76 1 2:09.803
91.605mph
1 26:25.522
89.994mph
12 2:10.508
91.110mph
Michelin  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Renault 5 GT Turbo (#87015) GTC-TC-76 2 +0.903
90.972mph
2 +4.090
89.763mph
12 2:10.808
90.901mph
Michelin  
Hristo Itchov
 Turbo Racing
Renault 5 GT Turbo (#87016) GTC-TC-76 6 +1.770
90.373mph
3 +22.930
88.711mph
12 2:11.972
90.100mph
Michelin  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Renault 5 GT Turbo (#87027) GTC-TC-76 3 +1.111
90.828mph
4 +31.023
88.267mph
12 2:11.588
90.363mph
Michelin  
Dominick
 
Renault 5 GT Turbo (#87011) GTC-TC-76 10 +3.238
89.376mph
5 +35.126
88.044mph
12 2:12.895
89.474mph
Michelin  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Renault 5 GT Turbo (#87009) GTC-TC-76 9 +3.223
89.386mph
6 +46.373
87.437mph
12 2:12.681
89.618mph
Michelin  
SpecialKS
 TEAM-GTLDK
Renault 5 GT Turbo (#87002) GTC-TC-76 12 +5.786
87.696mph
7 +1:04.576
86.472mph
12 2:14.023
88.721mph
Michelin  
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
Renault 5 GT Turbo (#87014) GTC-TC-76 8 +2.148
90.114mph
8 +1:08.255
86.280mph
12 2:11.803
90.215mph
Michelin  
Bob M.
  OLD SCHOOL RACING TEAM
Renault 5 GT Turbo (#87003) GTC-TC-76 9 +2:06.759
83.332mph
12 2:16.667
87.004mph
Michelin  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Renault 5 GT Turbo (#87044) GTC-TC-76 5 +1.765
90.376mph
10 +1L
82.067mph
11 2:12.907
89.466mph
Michelin  
misnoimis
 
Renault 5 GT Turbo (#87021) GTC-TC-76 13 +9.350
85.450mph
11 +51.605
79.493mph
11 2:18.946
85.577mph
Michelin  
seniordan
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Renault 5 GT Turbo (#87004) GTC-TC-76 7 +2.134
90.124mph
12 11 2:13.081
89.349mph
DQ
Michelin  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Renault 5 GT Turbo (#87013) GTC-TC-76 11 +4.920
88.260mph
13 +5L 7 2:13.656
88.964mph
unknown
Michelin  
Erling G-P
 TEAM-GTLDK
Renault 5 GT Turbo (#87025) GTC-TC-76 4 +1.446
90.596mph
14 +11L 1 2:31.148
78.669mph
unknown
Michelin  
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« Reply #45 on: April 24, 2020, 11:02:29 AM +0100 »

I have to be honest, I'm not very pleased that we're allowed to use that advanced setup patch. I decided against using it, just like Dimitar. It just ruins realism, giving a car that doesn't have wings, a wing adjustment, not to mention the fast bump and rebound settings, a splitter (?!) and so on. Are you guys using that patch for every race? That would explain some odd differences in speed I've noticed sometimes...
As it was not possible to detect online if a driver was using the advanced setup or not, we decided to allow it, as policing it would have been impossible. I use it always and I suspect others here do to.
Regarding the wing/splitter adjustments; I think I'm right in saying that it doesn't work for all cars e.g. there is no adjustment to be made.
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« Reply #46 on: April 24, 2020, 11:40:49 AM +0100 »

Hristo, with regards to the advanced setup patch, it doesn't work the same on all cars.  Of those we regularly use, several have no wing or splitter settings to change, and on some cars, the bump/rebound settings appear linked, so you can't change one without the other changing too.
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« Reply #47 on: April 24, 2020, 11:58:17 AM +0100 »

With regards to the advanced setup patch. After Dimitar said he was not going to use it, I decided to do the same. However I would argue that the default rear wing setting of 6 is actually unrealistic, as the car does not have a rear wing surely the 1 setting is actually the correct one, giving more straight line speed but less stability in the corners. Also I find that the fast bump & rebound settings make virtually no difference to the way the car handles, well none that my average talents can detect anyway. It does enable you to use asymmetric tyre pressures, but this is only really useful on a handful of tracks & is something which is realistic anyway.

As Erling said, not all cars have all the adjustments available & as Tony said the use of the advanced setup option is unpolicable anyway.
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« Reply #48 on: April 24, 2020, 12:16:51 PM +0100 »

For me as one of the slowest drivers, who often don't know how to setup a car, the advanced setup
does not give me any advantages  Tongue Roll Eyes

I was using Dimitar's online setup  in race 1 and was about 5 secongs slower in qualy  Huh

For race 2 I reduced the rear wing setting from 6 to 4 based on Dimitar's setup, which gave me about
a second but also heavily increased tyre weir and laptimes decreased considerably during the race so in the end
my impression was that there was no real advantage.
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« Reply #49 on: April 24, 2020, 02:40:11 PM +0100 »

Well, reducing the 'rear wing' (on a R5 Turbo  Huh) from 6 to 2 made me over 2 seconds faster (even giving me a pole position which I dread, lol). But I consider that an equalizer rather than an advantage. Those who understand this setup stuff -which most certainly doesn't include me- always have an advantage from my perspective. In every race, with every car. If a good setup or a specific hint makes me faster than usual, you bet I'm going to use it. I'd even argue that access to a good setup should be a given. It would definitely give a tighter field which is a lot more fun, for everybody. Note that every single driver in this field has in the past proven that with the right car, track and above all, setup, they can be in the front of the field.
It's not access to an arbitrary 'advanced setup' option which makes the difference, it's knowing how to use it.

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« Reply #50 on: April 24, 2020, 02:40:58 PM +0100 »

LOL,
       never knew there existed such a thing as an advanced setup patch for GTL ! I've often wondered why there were speed differences among identical cars but I always blamed my lack of talent for my poor performances. Like Kurt I am hopeless in setting up a car so I don't think I 'd benefit a lot when I use it. Although, fidlling with wingsettings shouldn't be too technical I guess. Where can I get it? (dreams of winning a race keep wandering through my mind.... scooter)
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« Reply #51 on: April 24, 2020, 03:16:16 PM +0100 »

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=14422.0
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« Reply #52 on: April 25, 2020, 11:34:23 AM +0100 »

However I would argue that the default rear wing setting of 6 is actually unrealistic, as the car does not have a rear wing surely the 1 setting is actually the correct one, giving more straight line speed but less stability in the corners.

I suspect the modders used the rear wing setting to simulate the drag and balance on the car, rather than as an actual adjustable device. I guess with cars like this the advanced patch does make quite a difference. Glad to hear it's not so for other cars though. In fact this is the first car in a UKGTL race where I see such big differences in top speed and handling.

Thanks all for the explanations!
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« Reply #53 on: April 25, 2020, 12:22:56 PM +0100 »

I think for mortals like myself, the patch is essential for this particular series. I don't have it, and have never used it
But the way some people I would normally have been racing with were driving past on the straights so easily
I will install it.
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« Reply #54 on: April 25, 2020, 04:45:28 PM +0100 »

I think for mortals like myself, the patch is essential for this particular series. I don't have it, and have never used it
But the way some people I would normally have been racing with were driving past on the straights so easily
I will install it.
You'll find how exilarating are the turns too... Grin
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