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  • GT Sprint - S3 R6 - Oschers: July 04, 2006
July 04, 2006, 09:21:30 PM +0100 - Oschersleben (GP) - UKGTR GTR1 Sprint Season 3 GT
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JonM_uk
 Ze Penguin Brotherhood
Lister Storm GT1 1 1:21.905
99.923mph
1 40:25.596
94.475mph
28 1:23.224
98.339mph
Dunlop  
greg130
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 4 +1.014
98.701mph
2 +30.683
93.294mph
28 1:24.448
96.914mph
Michelin  
Rich_A
 CBFR
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 5 +1.135
98.557mph
3 +31.523
93.263mph
28 1:24.010
97.419mph
Michelin  
Truetom
 Ze Penguin Brotherhood
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT GT1 8 +1.770
97.809mph
4 +42.917
92.832mph
28 1:24.168
97.236mph
Michelin  
Jamera
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 10 +3.139
96.235mph
5 +1L
88.965mph
27 1:25.874
95.305mph
Michelin  
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
Lister Storm GT1 6 +1.146
98.544mph
6 +3L 25 1:24.122
97.289mph
engine
Dunlop  
Paddy Cummins
 
Lister Storm GT1 14 +12.262
86.911mph
7 +6L
73.617mph
22 1:33.687
87.357mph
Dunlop  
stnasky
 
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 8 22 1:24.491
96.865mph
unknown
Pirelli  
mclaessen
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 7 +1.741
97.843mph
9 +13L 15 1:24.687
96.640mph
unknown
Michelin  
locutos ukgtr
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 13 +4.870
94.315mph
10 +15L 13 1:27.550
93.480mph
unknown
Michelin  
enz13_gt
 
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT GT1 11 +3.902
95.379mph
11 +16L 12 1:26.129
95.022mph
unknown
Michelin  
whitham69
 Team Shark
Dodge Viper GTS-R GT1 9 +2.196
97.314mph
12 +22L 6 1:25.531
95.687mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT GT1 3 +0.985
98.736mph
13 +23L 5 1:25.363
95.875mph
unknown
Michelin  
mo
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 2 +0.061
99.849mph
14 +26L 2 2:25.899
56.095mph
unknown
Michelin  
longskater1969
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 12 +4.413
94.814mph
15 2 1:31.969
88.989mph
suspension
Michelin  

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Shark is following Whitham into T1 and is caught out by the difference in braking points. Shark realised he was going to rear end Whitham and pressed Esc, unfortunatly both cars went off as a result of the contact.

  • Simon Gymer (Shark)penalty — Rear end collision. — 2 places lost
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« Reply #30 on: July 04, 2006, 10:41:40 PM +0100 »

Lol, I only lost 1 place by blowing up my engine Grin. From 5th to 6th. So not much lost. Tongue
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« Reply #31 on: July 04, 2006, 10:44:16 PM +0100 »



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« Reply #32 on: July 04, 2006, 10:52:37 PM +0100 »

Lol, I only lost 1 place by blowing up my engine Grin. From 5th to 6th. So not much lost. Tongue

Still, it's the difference between 28CD being 1 point ahead of us Sharks instead of 1 point behind where they belong. laugh
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« Reply #33 on: July 04, 2006, 10:52:59 PM +0100 »

Good win Jon, as usuall you juat have that little bit more than me.
Qualed in 4th with 17 secs left on the clock, wow was that last effort worth it.
Good steady race with rich no more than a second behind me for the whole lot but never close enough to make a passing attempt.
Real bonus was Jam finishing 5th and gaining the team an extra few points to sneak us ahead of the sharks.
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« Reply #34 on: July 04, 2006, 10:56:13 PM +0100 »

Good race for me. Just nipped in for pole from Mo by 0.06 I think. It was a good battle. I was expecting more of the same in the race but it wasn't to be Sad ......

Its not the first time either, I think I've only ever raced you once or twice on track even though we've had many qual battles.
Seems like something always goes wrong for one of us. It would have been nice to see how things progressed with tyre wear etc  - would have been a nice comparison of the lister and the 550 seeing as how we had identical pace.
Next time dude, grats on the win Cool
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« Reply #35 on: July 04, 2006, 10:57:29 PM +0100 »

Lol, I only lost 1 place by blowing up my engine Grin. From 5th to 6th. So not much lost. Tongue

Still, it's the difference between 28CD being 1 point ahead of us Sharks instead of 1 point behind where they belong. laugh

Don't worry. We just let them taste a bit of the teamchampionship. And then, in the end, we go home with the cup Wink Grin.

I have never driven Estoril really, so please blink your headlights when lapping me Cheesy
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« Reply #36 on: July 04, 2006, 11:36:25 PM +0100 »

Had a quick practise and was all over the place, couldn't concentrate. Decided not to race, my flat is pushing 30 degrees atm. Hope you had a good race, see you at Estoril.
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« Reply #37 on: July 04, 2006, 11:37:12 PM +0100 »

Right, Ruskus, I was wondering where you went. Was expecting you make a move after the Esses as I'm over-careful there (went off in first 4 Sprints I think  Grin ) and I intentionaly wanted to brake late. Well, sorry to see you off. I'm glad I finished as I never practice GT anymore, all my Sprint setups are from last season... Went quite well, considering I change my F360 setups every time, and in Oschers to boot, my least succesful track.

Anyway, too bad Ruskus, was good while it lasted, good feeling to be able to keep you behind, at least with your damaged car  Grin and few laps of practice here. You're too hard on the engine, I guess, I never managed to blow the engine in the race (only in after race doughnuts  Grin ) - I shift at one or two red marks, seldom go higher and seems enough.

Some good points for ZPB team -first and fourth!

Good win, Jon!  clap clap

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« Reply #38 on: July 05, 2006, 12:34:58 PM +0100 »

Decided not to race, my flat is pushing 30 degrees atm.

Yours and everybody's. I was in shorts and sim sox only, sweating myself to death with the fan blasting warm air at me.  Tongue Grin Grin

I watched the extra time of Germany vs Italy after I crashed out, was very entertaining. Well done Italy.
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« Reply #39 on: July 05, 2006, 04:06:09 PM +0100 »

Wow, my lap times were way off and I wasn't consistant at all but glad to hear that I didn't cause any harm.  Smiley

As for Estoril, well, I don't really know this track at all. I'll need to practice a little and get the track stuck into my mind because I'd like another finish next time out.
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« Reply #40 on: July 05, 2006, 06:08:07 PM +0100 »

Lol, Paddy, I came in Season 1 and I thought I knew a lot about racing, etc. Was glad to finish a race then, let alone be consistent.  Grin

We all learned a lot since then.  smartass

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« Reply #41 on: July 05, 2006, 07:07:16 PM +0100 »

Even after a thousand laps on one track, still always something new to learn.. if not self taught then from another driver.  Smiley

With these GT cars, it's all about tyre temps, got to push enough to get them hot.. 80 - 100 is what to aim for, optimum is about 90-100. Hard part is keeping them at those temps all the time, specially difficult to do for the fronts. Can assign LCD to key and flick through motec info in car to get real time tyre temps.
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« Reply #42 on: July 06, 2006, 02:18:57 PM +0100 »

I'll check that out so. I don't usually bother with set ups or anything. I just like to get in and drive. Do setups prove to be a big factor of setting good lap times?
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« Reply #43 on: July 06, 2006, 02:38:09 PM +0100 »

Of course, once you know what all the options do it's only matter of figuring out what the track likes. Or more what a track will allow and what it will not allow .. the physics are very good, ground effect, camber thrust, camber gain, lateral and longitudinal weight bias i.e weight more on front on a down hill section or weight more on left on cambered left hand turn and then there's  G force - it's all there except tyre model isn't so great for low speed supposedly fixed in GTR2. There is lots of info for setting a car up around, when I started spent time considering each different aspect of the car.. now it's all a miss match of info in my brain confusing the hell out of me lol.

If you have a symptom i.e a tyre lifting too much and skidding easily, what i've discovered is that the fix is not always too obvious.. too much body roll off a tyre making it too light, hmm so stiffer anti roll bar might fix it sure. The problem here is it's difficult to know why it's lifting, it could be because the anti roll bar is very soft and also a soft rebound which could make suspension reach it's extension limit and so what else can it do now except lift.

So if weight is allowed off a tyre easily then it will stay on the track for longer as long as it doesn't run out of suspension travel.. if you make rebound stiffer with thicker roll bars and stiffer dampers well it will hold more weight on that tyre but it will lift more instantaneously. My point is it's not always too easy to know wtf is going on .. you read some things and they say one thing and another says the opposite !! As you can see doing this car racing has tunred me into a jibbering mad man.

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« Reply #44 on: July 06, 2006, 03:05:21 PM +0100 »

Do setups prove to be a big factor of setting good lap times?

Yes and no. The single most important thing is still the driver. I would say a setup can tone a driver's time, but the driver is still the one that sets the time.
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