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« Reply #30 on: July 04, 2006, 10:41:40 PM +0100 » |
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Lol, I only lost 1 place by blowing up my engine . From 5th to 6th. So not much lost.
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« Reply #31 on: July 04, 2006, 10:44:16 PM +0100 » |
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« Reply #32 on: July 04, 2006, 10:52:37 PM +0100 » |
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Lol, I only lost 1 place by blowing up my engine . From 5th to 6th. So not much lost. Still, it's the difference between 28CD being 1 point ahead of us Sharks instead of 1 point behind where they belong.
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« Reply #33 on: July 04, 2006, 10:52:59 PM +0100 » |
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Good win Jon, as usuall you juat have that little bit more than me. Qualed in 4th with 17 secs left on the clock, wow was that last effort worth it. Good steady race with rich no more than a second behind me for the whole lot but never close enough to make a passing attempt. Real bonus was Jam finishing 5th and gaining the team an extra few points to sneak us ahead of the sharks.
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« Reply #34 on: July 04, 2006, 10:56:13 PM +0100 » |
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Good race for me. Just nipped in for pole from Mo by 0.06 I think. It was a good battle. I was expecting more of the same in the race but it wasn't to be ...... Its not the first time either, I think I've only ever raced you once or twice on track even though we've had many qual battles. Seems like something always goes wrong for one of us. It would have been nice to see how things progressed with tyre wear etc - would have been a nice comparison of the lister and the 550 seeing as how we had identical pace. Next time dude, grats on the win
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« Reply #35 on: July 04, 2006, 10:57:29 PM +0100 » |
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Lol, I only lost 1 place by blowing up my engine . From 5th to 6th. So not much lost. Still, it's the difference between 28CD being 1 point ahead of us Sharks instead of 1 point behind where they belong. Don't worry. We just let them taste a bit of the teamchampionship. And then, in the end, we go home with the cup . I have never driven Estoril really, so please blink your headlights when lapping me
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« Reply #36 on: July 04, 2006, 11:36:25 PM +0100 » |
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Had a quick practise and was all over the place, couldn't concentrate. Decided not to race, my flat is pushing 30 degrees atm. Hope you had a good race, see you at Estoril.
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« Reply #37 on: July 04, 2006, 11:37:12 PM +0100 » |
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Right, Ruskus, I was wondering where you went. Was expecting you make a move after the Esses as I'm over-careful there (went off in first 4 Sprints I think ) and I intentionaly wanted to brake late. Well, sorry to see you off. I'm glad I finished as I never practice GT anymore, all my Sprint setups are from last season... Went quite well, considering I change my F360 setups every time, and in Oschers to boot, my least succesful track. Anyway, too bad Ruskus, was good while it lasted, good feeling to be able to keep you behind, at least with your damaged car and few laps of practice here. You're too hard on the engine, I guess, I never managed to blow the engine in the race (only in after race doughnuts ) - I shift at one or two red marks, seldom go higher and seems enough. Some good points for ZPB team -first and fourth! Good win, Jon! TT
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« Reply #38 on: July 05, 2006, 12:34:58 PM +0100 » |
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Decided not to race, my flat is pushing 30 degrees atm.
Yours and everybody's. I was in shorts and sim sox only, sweating myself to death with the fan blasting warm air at me. I watched the extra time of Germany vs Italy after I crashed out, was very entertaining. Well done Italy.
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« Reply #39 on: July 05, 2006, 04:06:09 PM +0100 » |
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Wow, my lap times were way off and I wasn't consistant at all but glad to hear that I didn't cause any harm. As for Estoril, well, I don't really know this track at all. I'll need to practice a little and get the track stuck into my mind because I'd like another finish next time out.
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« Reply #40 on: July 05, 2006, 06:08:07 PM +0100 » |
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Lol, Paddy, I came in Season 1 and I thought I knew a lot about racing, etc. Was glad to finish a race then, let alone be consistent. We all learned a lot since then. TT
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« Reply #41 on: July 05, 2006, 07:07:16 PM +0100 » |
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Even after a thousand laps on one track, still always something new to learn.. if not self taught then from another driver. With these GT cars, it's all about tyre temps, got to push enough to get them hot.. 80 - 100 is what to aim for, optimum is about 90-100. Hard part is keeping them at those temps all the time, specially difficult to do for the fronts. Can assign LCD to key and flick through motec info in car to get real time tyre temps.
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« Reply #42 on: July 06, 2006, 02:18:57 PM +0100 » |
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I'll check that out so. I don't usually bother with set ups or anything. I just like to get in and drive. Do setups prove to be a big factor of setting good lap times?
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« Reply #43 on: July 06, 2006, 02:38:09 PM +0100 » |
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Of course, once you know what all the options do it's only matter of figuring out what the track likes. Or more what a track will allow and what it will not allow .. the physics are very good, ground effect, camber thrust, camber gain, lateral and longitudinal weight bias i.e weight more on front on a down hill section or weight more on left on cambered left hand turn and then there's G force - it's all there except tyre model isn't so great for low speed supposedly fixed in GTR2. There is lots of info for setting a car up around, when I started spent time considering each different aspect of the car.. now it's all a miss match of info in my brain confusing the hell out of me lol.
If you have a symptom i.e a tyre lifting too much and skidding easily, what i've discovered is that the fix is not always too obvious.. too much body roll off a tyre making it too light, hmm so stiffer anti roll bar might fix it sure. The problem here is it's difficult to know why it's lifting, it could be because the anti roll bar is very soft and also a soft rebound which could make suspension reach it's extension limit and so what else can it do now except lift.
So if weight is allowed off a tyre easily then it will stay on the track for longer as long as it doesn't run out of suspension travel.. if you make rebound stiffer with thicker roll bars and stiffer dampers well it will hold more weight on that tyre but it will lift more instantaneously. My point is it's not always too easy to know wtf is going on .. you read some things and they say one thing and another says the opposite !! As you can see doing this car racing has tunred me into a jibbering mad man.
Nice spell checking tool btw ..
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« Reply #44 on: July 06, 2006, 03:05:21 PM +0100 » |
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Do setups prove to be a big factor of setting good lap times?
Yes and no. The single most important thing is still the driver. I would say a setup can tone a driver's time, but the driver is still the one that sets the time.
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