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  • NGT Sprint - S3 R6 - Oschers: July 11, 2006
July 11, 2006, 09:20:09 PM +0100 - Oschersleben (GP) - UKGTR GTR1 Sprint Season 3 NGT
Driver
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
mo
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 1 1:26.796
94.292mph
1 40:51.575
90.135mph
27 1:27.581
93.447mph
Dunlop  
Truetom
 Ze Penguin Brotherhood
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 11 +1.222
92.983mph
2 +44.216
88.538mph
27 1:28.146
92.848mph
Pirelli  
stnasky
 
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 8 +0.539
93.710mph
3 +44.303
88.535mph
27 1:27.851
93.160mph
Dunlop  
Rich_A
 CBFR
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 3 +0.203
94.072mph
4 +45.145
88.505mph
27 1:27.810
93.203mph
Dunlop  
JonM_uk
 Ze Penguin Brotherhood
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 5 +0.325
93.940mph
5 +53.601
88.207mph
27 1:28.232
92.758mph
Pirelli  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Mosler MT900R NGT 10 +0.954
93.267mph
6 +1:01.275
87.937mph
27 1:28.535
92.440mph
Dunlop  
Pedro[PL]
 Team Shark
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 2 +0.179
94.098mph
7 +1:05.849
87.777mph
27 1:28.053
92.946mph
Pirelli  
locutos ukgtr
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 6 +0.387
93.874mph
8 +1:25.457
87.099mph
27 1:28.507
92.469mph
Pirelli  
popabawa
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 14 +1.583
92.603mph
9 +1:33.212
86.834mph
27 1:30.066
90.869mph
Dunlop  
Grinsomat
 RS Motorsport
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 9 +0.738
93.497mph
10 +1:37.101
86.701mph
27 1:28.353
92.631mph
Dunlop  
RS
 RS Motorsport
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 17 +2.029
92.138mph
11 +1L
86.782mph
26 1:28.165
92.828mph
Dunlop  
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 12 +1.377
92.820mph
12 +34.144
85.590mph
26 1:29.940
90.996mph
Dunlop  
greg130
 28CD Motorsports
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 13 +1.540
92.648mph
13 +36.385
85.513mph
26 1:30.056
90.879mph
Dunlop  
picnic
 Team Shark
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 19 +3.442
90.696mph
14 +48.409
85.102mph
26 1:30.865
90.070mph
Dunlop  
Don
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 15 +1.804
92.372mph
15 +48.619
85.094mph
26 1:30.627
90.306mph
Dunlop  
silver53
 Ze Penguin Brotherhood
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 22 +6.434
87.785mph
16 +1:28.400
83.762mph
26 1:32.164
88.800mph
Pirelli  
Rob Bywater "Kerb Crawlers"
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 21 +4.914
89.240mph
17 +1:31.706
83.653mph
26 1:31.624
89.324mph
Dunlop  
Jamera
 28CD Motorsports
Gillet Vertigo Streiff NGT 23 +7.082
87.179mph
18 +2L
81.213mph
25 1:31.395
89.547mph
Dunlop  
FlyBri
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 18 +3.306
90.832mph
19 25 1:30.254
90.679mph
fuel
Pirelli  
BigG
 RS Motorsport
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 16 +1.864
92.310mph
20 +4L 23 1:28.572
92.402mph
suspension
Dunlop  
whitham69
 Team Shark
Mosler MT900R NGT 20 +4.034
90.104mph
21 +8L 19 1:30.264
90.669mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Edza
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 24 +8.065
86.276mph
22 +18L 9 1:32.275
88.693mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 4 +0.252
94.019mph
23 +24L 3 1:30.578
90.355mph
unknown
Dunlop  
[RSms]Andy
 RS Motorsport
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 7 +0.454
93.802mph
+27L 0 ---
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unknown
Dunlop  

Moderator's Report


Server replay time: 216s

As Don enters turn 1 for the first time he is rear-ended by BigG, who seems to get caught out by the slower pace at the race start. With cold tyres and brakes it is important that drivers are extra cautious, and even though Don was slower than usual this was to be expected.
Because this is a first lap rear-ender the penalty is increased to 3 places, however in this case Don requests that no penalty be given, so I'm treating the incident as 'unreported' which means that no places are lost.

  • BigG ([RSms]BigG)penalty — first lap rear-ender — 3 places lost
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 282s

Jamera is closely following Gerald down the back straight and brakes slightly late as they approach the second chicane. Jamera locks up the unloaded front and slides into the back of Gerald's car sending him off.
Gerald has also requested that no penaly be issued.

  • Jamerapenalty — rear-end shunt — 2 places lost (plus 1 for penalty points)
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 624s

Whitham69 is following Gerald as they approach the tripple left hander. Gerald loses some speed on entry and Whitham tries to overtake on the second apex, which inevitibly results in contact with Gerald being punted off.
Whitham tried to get out of it by turning tighter but understeered into the side of Gerald's car.
Whitham then does the gentlemany thing and waits quite a while for Gerald to catch up and lets him back past to regain his position. Penalty reduced to one place.

  • whitham69penalty — over-ambitious overtake — 1 place lost
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 995s

Edza drifts wide at the triple left hander, gets onto the grass and as he drives towards the track to rejoin he cannot slow the car before coming to rest on the apex of turn 5. Picnic is just arriving and rounds the bend only to find the nose of Edza's car planted on the apex. This is a blind corner and Picnic could not have seen Edza's car.
Edza was caught out by the spoon shaped bend where the track turns at 180 degrees and this exaggerates the incident slightly.

  • Edza (edza)caution — rejoin at a more gradual angle


Server replay time: 2332s

Don is having a battle with Picnic and is chasing him down when the lapping cars of Truetom and Shark catch up with them. Truetom is patient and waits for Don to pull over but after 2 laps he is still behind.
At one point Don seemed to pull away slightly and again later Truetom was delayed by a rejoining Jamera. However there were several opportunites to let the cars pass but it is not until Don eventually drifts wide that Truetom goes through.
Don was obviously focused on the car in front but I believe that there were chances to let the lapping cars past. In fact if Don had let all the cars through at time 2226s he would probably have fared better and been able to use the lapping cars to his advantage when they caught Picnic.

  • Don (Don1)warning — holding up a lapping driver


Server replay time: 2523s

Truetom is defending 2nd place from Mark@[GP] and he runs wide as he approaches the final turn. Truetom gets a wheel on the grass and gets a bit sideways, rejoining the track at an angle right in front of Mark who has to brake hard to avoid contact.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 2533s

As they exit the final corner of the race Mark@[GP] gets a run on Truetom and challenges for 2nd place.
Truetom moves to the right and Mark goes left to try and outrun Truetom to the finish line. After Mark moves left Truetom then moves back across the track in front of him and Mark has to brake again to avoid contact.
Truetom should have chosen a definite line after exiting the final bend and this is clearly what Mark expects. At this point it was too late for Truetom to defend the position as Mark's move had alreay begun, and Mark's progress is definitely blocked by Truetom's actions.
Truetom does nothing outrageous and was not weaving but it is possible that Mark would have claimed second place and I am giving a one place penalty to reflect this, although it will not affect the race standings because Mark did not send in an incident report.

  • Truetom (truetom)penalty — blocking — 1 place lost (plus 1 for penalty points)
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 2539s

On the last lap Flybri splutters out of fuel as he exits the final corner. He keeps to the left to stay off off the racing line, hoping to make the last few meters to the finish.
Directly behind is Jamera, who is about to be lapped, and he also keeps left to allow the lapping cars of Pedro, JonM and Shark to pass.
Pedro is blindsided by Jamera's car and goes for the pass. He had no way to see Flybri stopping and even Jamera doesn't see it until the last moment as he was probably busy checking his mirrors.
Jamera swerves right in avoidance and contacts Pedro who has left very little room as he passes.
Pedro goes off and Jamera is bounced into the rear of Flybri's car, spinning him round into the path of the oncoming Shark who cant avoid him and he also goes off.
This incident was caused by several factors but ultimately the whole incident could have been avoided if Pedro had given more space while lapping Jamera.

  • Pedro[PL]warning — leave more room when alongside another car

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« on: July 03, 2006, 08:05:51 PM +0100 »

NGT Sprint Cup - Season 3, Round 6 at Oschersleben

Date: Tuesday 11th July

Practice 1: 8:30pm (10 mins)
Practice 2: 8:40pm (5 mins)
Qual 2: 8:45pm (28 mins)
Warmup: 9:13pm (2 mins)
Race: 9:15pm (40 mins)

Cars allowed: Ferrari 360, Porsche 911 GT3-RS, Porsche 911 Bi-Turbo, Mosler, Vertigo or Morgan. (Lotus Elise, BMW Z3M, Porsche GT3 Cup are allowed but will not score points.)
Weather: Dry

Server: UKGTR NGT Sprint S3
Password: Server Password is shown in the Password Board and is available to the relevant registered drivers.

Notes:
(1) Full-time drivers should aim to arrive during Practice 1.
(2) Reserve drivers should not connect to the server until Practice 2.
(3) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(4) See UKGTR Sprint Season 3 Info for general Season 3 info.
(5) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules - especially the new Pit Limiter rolling start procedure
(6) The season will be run using a UKGTR carpack which will need to be installed prior to racing. Details of this pack can be found here.
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« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2006, 08:23:47 PM +0100 »

I've got a work commitment for this one I'm afraid ... gutted, been watching footage of the GT's round there this weekend and was well up for it.

My full time status isn't going too well, problems with the last race, work with this one, and missed the first round as the missus was having our baby (fair enough tho!)

Hopefully I'm not preventing anyone racing with the increased server capacity these days.
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« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2006, 09:24:24 AM +0100 »

I think I have seen an info about this - but cannot find it now. Is it ok to use the wide part of track behind white line at corner 4?

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« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2006, 09:43:44 AM +0100 »

I think I have seen an info about this - but cannot find it now. Is it ok to use the wide part of track behind white line at corner 4?

Yes.
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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2006, 02:38:23 PM +0100 »

I shall be trying out my new monitor tonight, with extra width...
http://www.viewsoniceurope.com/UK/Products/LCDX/VX2025wm.htm

This is of course assuming I can get it home in my totally unsuitable, impractical car. The Mrs may have to do the 10 mile walk home so it can sit on the passenger seat.  angel
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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2006, 02:41:31 PM +0100 »

I'll be verrrrrry interested to see what you think of that monitor Shark, been thinking of taking the widescreen plunge for a while Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2006, 04:45:52 PM +0100 »

I'd be verrrrrrrrrrry interested in seeing what will his missus say to him after that long walk home!  Shocked

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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2006, 05:48:21 PM +0100 »

Cant make tonights race, gutted :'(, sorry guys, have a good 'un.

(Actually i hope all my rivals fall off the track to cushion the point loss blow) Tongue sweatdrop
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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2006, 09:31:23 PM +0100 »

Absolutely pissed off to the max now. Angry Angry Angry. F***king Logitech crap.

I Noticed that during qually I got slower and slower. I checked ingame and controller was getting to 80% only. So I started up Dxtweak but had no idea what to set the value to. Tried both increasing as decreasing, but none worked.

During race I was overtaken on the straight like I was standing still, so I had to give up. No use crawling around like that.

Very close to breaking this piece of crap in two. That G25 better come soon and be good, or else this DFP is gonna get used for flight sims, in which it we have a leading roll as being the flying object itself.
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« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2006, 09:50:19 PM +0100 »

Setup was a bit too loose for my driving style (seemed fantastic for others tho Embarrassed )
Had so many offs with the back end flying out from under me that I couldn't go on putting everyone in danger - after nearly taking out Picnic I thought it best just to park it - my apologies again dude!
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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2006, 09:59:56 PM +0100 »

Okay, it's final, my pedals are bust. Those flimsy wires are broken.
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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2006, 10:08:35 PM +0100 »

OK, OK, I give up, where did everyone get all that extra speed from?  Shocked Cheesy  surrender

Seriously impressive times there guys  I Am Not Worthy

Pretty pleased with my 9th place after qualifying 14th though  Grin
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« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2006, 10:10:31 PM +0100 »

Nightmare of a qual and race, just one of those nights.
Collected SBG on lap 1 or 2 as he spun across the track, sorry mate just couldnt avoid you.
Had 2 silly spins which wiped out both the front and back of the car, dont think there was a straight panel left on it.
Nearly took pops out in T1 as I braked to late, sorry mate, god knows how I managed to miss you ! Even tried to press the esc key but missed it.
Overall one of my worst efforts for a long time, glad thats out the way.
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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2006, 10:13:36 PM +0100 »

I had a very good race .......until

10 minutes before the end of the race I was in 2nd Pos !
and suddenly my rears were gone ! temps were in the 95s, no overbreaking, they just were gone, dunno why !
so I had for the last 10 mins a very oversteery car ! no way of keeping it on track !
but that`s racing.....so I ended up 11th having heavy troubles with the tyres !

I could scream, but I can not change it at all !  Grin Grin
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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2006, 10:14:09 PM +0100 »

Well It was all good for me. Had a crash to desktop but even that was after the race Grin
Thanks most of all to TT for the setup he gave us thumbup2 First time me tyres didn't melt in a NGT Wink Was surprised to qually 5th with a PB and then the race went far better than expected. Thought I'd cook the tyres and just spin around everywhere. I span twice but that was 'cus I got a bit excited with the brake/throttle. Finally coming to terms with the fact you need a little bit of both to corner smoothly.Just goes against my GT instinct Grin Had some nice little mini battles in the race but I had to laugh at the end, it reminded me of ten pin bowling and Shark was the ball. I just managed to squeeze through a gap in the carnage but Shark wasn't so lucky. Bad luck mate Sad Was great to be in the action  in the NGT's everyone drove great from my perspective Afro
Grats Mo and cheers TT Smiley
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