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  • NGT Sprint - S3 R7 - Estoril: July 25, 2006
July 25, 2006, 09:21:38 PM +0100 - Estoril (GP (2000 onwards)) - UKGTR GTR1 Sprint Season 3 NGT
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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mo
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 1 1:39.603
93.161mph
1 40:19.726
88.200mph
23 1:40.286
92.526mph
Dunlop  
Truetom
 Ze Penguin Brotherhood
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 2 +0.721
92.491mph
2 +9.177
87.866mph
23 1:40.450
92.375mph
Pirelli  
JonM_uk
 Ze Penguin Brotherhood
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 3 +0.841
92.381mph
3 +18.121
87.544mph
23 1:41.281
91.617mph
Pirelli  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Mosler MT900R NGT 4 +0.872
92.352mph
4 +18.571
87.528mph
23 1:41.599
91.330mph
Dunlop  
RS
 RS Motorsport
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 13 +1.773
91.531mph
5 +37.724
86.846mph
23 1:41.634
91.299mph
Dunlop  
stnasky
 
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 12 +1.635
91.656mph
6 +37.978
86.837mph
23 1:41.418
91.493mph
Dunlop  
Grinsomat
 RS Motorsport
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 7 +1.209
92.043mph
7 +41.846
86.700mph
23 1:41.520
91.401mph
Dunlop  
popabawa
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 9 +1.306
91.955mph
8 +43.063
86.657mph
23 1:42.139
90.847mph
Dunlop  
Rich_A
 CBFR
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 6 +1.206
92.046mph
9 +1:01.163
86.025mph
23 1:41.340
91.564mph
Dunlop  
BigG
 RS Motorsport
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 10 +1.451
91.823mph
10 +1:16.124
85.509mph
23 1:41.667
91.269mph
Dunlop  
picnic
 Team Shark
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 15 +2.246
91.106mph
11 +1:19.368
85.398mph
23 1:42.530
90.501mph
Dunlop  
locutos ukgtr
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 11 +1.462
91.813mph
12 +1:25.603
85.186mph
23 1:41.629
91.303mph
Pirelli  
Rob Bywater "Kerb Crawlers"
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 18 +2.932
90.497mph
13 +1:40.658
84.677mph
23 1:43.516
89.639mph
Dunlop  
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 16 +2.260
91.094mph
14 +1:49.863
84.369mph
23 1:42.605
90.435mph
Dunlop  
Dan Minton
 Team RVS
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 14 +2.050
91.282mph
15 (+3) +1L 22 1:41.550
91.374mph
unknown
Dunlop  
whitham69
 Team Shark
Mosler MT900R NGT 17 +2.653
90.744mph
16 +4L 19 1:42.583
90.454mph
unknown
Dunlop  
silver53
 Ze Penguin Brotherhood
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 20 +5.459
88.320mph
17 +13L 10 1:46.053
87.495mph
unknown
Pirelli  
Don
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 19 +3.898
89.652mph
18 +15L 8 1:43.203
89.911mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Pedro[PL]
 Team Shark
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 5 +0.946
92.284mph
19 +18L 5 1:42.179
90.812mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Jamera
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 21 +5.950
87.909mph
20 5 1:46.464
87.157mph
unknown
Pirelli  
[RSms]Andy
 RS Motorsport
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 8 +1.292
91.968mph
21 +20L 3 1:42.957
90.126mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Edza
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 22 +8.618
85.742mph
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 2387s

Dan Minton gets a run on Grinsomat as they exit the final bend and Grinsomat goes to the inside to take the defensive line down the straight.
Dan uses the slipstream for a moment and then also moves to the right trying to sqeeze between the pitwall and Grinsomat, resulting in contact.
It was clear from Grinsomat's actions that he intended to take the inside line, and an easier safer pass should have been made on the outside where there was more space.


Server replay time: 2393s

As they approach the braking zone at at the end of the main straight Dan is still very close to Grinsomat and decides to attempt an overtake on the inside.

Dan brakes hard but clips the right rear of Grinsomat's car, and Grinsomat goes off as a result.

Even though Dan has held his hand up for this one, Grinsomat is driving down the center of the track at this point, and this doesn't help things.
One of the reasons for choosing a definite inside or outside line is to allow more room for manouver and avoid incidents just like this one.

Overall I have to rule against Dan, who should have been more careful, especially after the initial contact at the start finish line.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GTR
NGT
1:39.603
93.161mph
mo
Qualifying
Porsche 911 GT3-RSJuly 25, 2006, 09:21:38 PM +0100
US3N
GTR
NGT
1:40.286
92.526mph
mo
Race
Porsche 911 GT3-RSJuly 25, 2006, 09:21:38 PM +0100
US3N
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« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2006, 10:28:27 PM +0100 »

I qualified in the time I expected, again like the endurance slightly off my PB, but couldn't really ask for more.

Was a dull race for me as I raced no-one at all until just under 3 minutes to go when JonM saw I had been lonely and kindly spun for me to let me by.  Wink We then had a good scrap for the last 2 laps and I just cocked up into the braking on the back straight to let JonM back through.  Grin

Onto my most loathed track that is the awful Monza.

Well done to Mo for the win and TT and Jon for the podiums.
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« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2006, 10:37:19 PM +0100 »



Grinsomat -  nice overtaking on Lap 5. [Inflammatory comments aimed at the mods removed]

GLA all still on the track! Cheesy

oh, thx for the comments......lol

I was pissing my pants in hope not to hit you, but I watched the replay and looks beauty...........for me......lol
Did the same move to RichA 2 laps before !
So thx to you 2 for keeping the door open fairly ! Very good racing and racing skills !

had a good race ! Even if I wouldn`T have finished, those  first couple of laps were so interesting........made my day .!!!!!  Grin Grin
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« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2006, 10:55:58 PM +0100 »

I love the thrill of hearing a Porsche engine in my right ear Smiley I made a mistake before s-f line and there was just no way I could not let you pass with that speed difference. I thought we raced much closer through the corner, but on the replay I saw that there was plenty of space.
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« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2006, 11:06:16 PM +0100 »

Sorry to Aagraam, my slowness caught you out I think.

 Huh Huh Huh

Think you've got the wrong driver SBG, I'm pretty sure I didn't race in this one.  Wink
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« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2006, 11:31:06 PM +0100 »

Good pace Mo and good job, setting new records very nice.

Had a good qualy in 6th but then race setup was not so good. Tried soft front, medium rear without prior testing. Was ok but not so great balance .. does anyone else use this combo?

CJ has already won and only needed five races, way to go good job. Feel like i'm getting to grips with F360 towards the end of the season, very squirmy car but stable.
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« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2006, 11:40:32 PM +0100 »

Think you've got the wrong driver SBG, I'm pretty sure I didn't race in this one.  Wink

LOL  Grin. I was so bloody slow that I'll still be there to greet you for GT race. Sorry to one of your fellow Shark hoot toot's, I think.
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« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2006, 11:56:50 PM +0100 »

Tried soft front, medium rear without prior testing. Was ok but not so great balance .. does anyone else use this combo?

Nope, softs never last for 40 mins (or 15 mins for me!), having different tyre combo on front/back makes cars feel very odd to me.
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« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2006, 12:04:30 AM +0100 »

Yep, towards last five laps fronts were worn but leading up to that seemed ok.. was practicing one night with Andy and CJ and they both used soft front medium rear combo on 996. I don't think there's much in it tbh but they do require totally different setups for sure cause the mediums need srubbing and softs don't so much.
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« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2006, 01:57:21 AM +0100 »

Hadnt done much practice at estoril and it took a few laps / mistakes to re-learn how to drive round it.  Had Dan Minton chasing fairly close behind for the first half. Went from 12th to 6th, Big pile up at T4 with Pedro, RichA and Popabawa i think helped me gain some of those places Grin

D Minton kept pushing and eventually he rounded me up when i went drifting thru the corner after the bumpy part.  Controlled the slide but could keep him behind, Good driving m8  Smiley

2 mistakes put me back to 10th.  Near the end i made up few places when Minton and Grimsonat where arm wrestling down sf/straight and went over the top. Tongue

I used Med/Hards which seemed ok and pleased i finished at estoril. 
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« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2006, 07:47:16 AM +0100 »

That was a tough race, I was under pressure for almost all of it!

A new PB in qualifying, I finally broke the 1:41 barrier but it was still only good enough for 9th!

I drove pretty well for the first 10 mins and I think I was up into 5th or 6th when Dan Minton and Grinsomat slipped past me when I bumped into Pedro during the Turn 5 incident. Sorry, I just couldn't slow down and turn inside you in time to avoid contact.

It all went a bit wrong after that as I seemed to lose pace and RS and Mark@GP both passed me to drop me back into 9th but I picked one back when Dan went off right at the end.

There was definately a little contact between me and RS on a couple of occasions as he tried to pass me but I think it was me who was at fault so apologies there if I did anything untoward RS Undecided

I think I must have been running more wing than the other guys around me as I seemed to get eaten on the straights.

Quite pleased with 8th in the end, that's an OK result for me in this series. I'm really disappointed to be so far down the table but that only because the opposition is so good and it's a pleasure running against you guys  Smiley
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« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2006, 10:07:56 AM +0100 »

Fekin PC froze just as I came back from my pre-race smoke....couldn't reboot in time but I'm going to sit down with it tonight and give windows a stern talking to for replacing some of my display drivers without me asking... nuke nuke nuke

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« Reply #26 on: July 26, 2006, 01:03:56 PM +0100 »

Well that was a great race for me in terms of consistency. Felt Oschers was getting better and this time only had 1 off and a couple of grass visits (taking the corners too wide), resulting in me finishing my first ever race without being lapped, which is progress for me!! It took so much concentration that by the end of it I was literally soaking wet!

Congrats to fellow Kerbie, Mo, on a good win, and thanks to fellow Kerbie, SBG, for that spin which gained me an extra p[lace with 2 laps to go  Wink. I think thats called being unselfish by boosting your teamies confidence!

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« Reply #27 on: July 26, 2006, 01:14:15 PM +0100 »

No worries Rob, I was unselfishly boosting everyones confidence last night  Smiley. Bang on, your consistency killed me and there was a nice KC 911 threesome for a bit, even if Mo was a lap ahead.  I think pops, the Alex Ferguson of NGL, completely scambled me with his clever mind games. 

Heres to a better performance at Monza and another (yawn) team victory over the Sharks   Wink.
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« Reply #28 on: July 26, 2006, 01:30:23 PM +0100 »

I think pops, the Alex Ferguson of NGL, completely scambled me with his clever mind games.

I'm thinking of trying voodoo next time  Tongue
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« Reply #29 on: July 26, 2006, 01:42:05 PM +0100 »

I'm thinking of trying voodoo next time  Tongue

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