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  • S36JS Moon: April 21, 2020
April 21, 2020, 10:07:20 PM +0100 - Moon - UKGPL Season 36 (2020) JSMT 8
Driver
 Team		 Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Baab
 Team Baarf		 Honda RA272 F1 1965 5 +1.162
122.256mph		 1 31:25.320
121.100mph		 25 1:13.813
123.725mph
Goodyear  
Raoni Frizzo
 Team Coyote		 Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 1 1:13.538
124.187mph		 2 +13.835
120.218mph		 25 1:13.773
123.792mph
Dunlop  
MagicArsouille
 Black Night Racing		 Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 4 +1.078
122.393mph		 3 +34.115
118.948mph		 25 1:14.252
122.993mph
Dunlop  
Ziu Bacubacu
  OLD SCHOOL RACING TEAM		 BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 2 +0.030
124.137mph		 4 +37.584
118.733mph		 25 1:13.350
124.506mph
Dunlop  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing		 Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 3 +1.055
122.431mph		 5 +44.215
118.325mph		 25 1:14.555
122.493mph
Dunlop  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing		 Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 12 +6.997
113.398mph		 6 +1L
114.621mph		 24 1:16.779
118.945mph
Goodyear  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing		 Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 8 +3.081
119.194mph		 7 +4L
117.743mph		 21 1:15.891
120.337mph		 Disco
Goodyear  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing		 Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 9 +3.129
119.119mph		 8 +5L
116.587mph		 20 1:14.776
122.131mph		 Disco
Dunlop  
AnGex
 Black Night Racing		 Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 6 +2.347
120.346mph		 9 +0.488
116.551mph		 20 1:15.022
121.731mph		 Disco
Dunlop  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing		 Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 7 +2.754
119.704mph		 10 +20.392
115.089mph		 20 1:14.990
121.783mph		 Disco
Dunlop  
Arf Arf Arf
 Team Baarf		 Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 10 +3.237
118.951mph		 11 +20.868
115.055mph		 20 1:14.600
122.419mph		 Disco
Goodyear  
bagrupp
 Team Groundhog		 Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 11 +5.764
115.161mph		 12 +6L
111.305mph		 19 1:14.681
122.287mph		 Disco
Goodyear  
PaulV
 Blue Moose Racing		 Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 14 13 +24.580
109.577mph		 19 1:16.534
119.326mph		 Disco
Dunlop  
bagrupp
 Team Groundhog		 Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 14 DNS ---
---
Dunlop  
60fps UKGPL8
 		 BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 13 15 ---
---
Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

There were no reported incidents for this race, although the moderators noticed various contacts.
Regrettably, there were a few disco's which marred the event. However the moderators have decided that the result will stand.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Grand Prix Legends
F1 1965		1:13.538
124.187mph		Raoni Frizzo
Qualifying		 Cooper T77 (Climax)April 21, 2020, 10:07:20 PM +0100
S36JS
Grand Prix Legends
F1 1965		1:13.350
124.506mph		Ziu Bacubacu
Race		 BRM P261 (1965)April 21, 2020, 10:07:20 PM +0100
S36JS
April 21, 2020, 11:05:54 PM +0100 - Tucumán - UKGPL Season 36 (2020) JSMT 8
Driver
 Team		 Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Ziu Bacubacu
  OLD SCHOOL RACING TEAM		 Honda RA272 F1 1965 1 1:05.627
---		 1 28:18.559
---		 25 1:05.651
---
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing		 Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 5 +0.860
---		 2 +17.615
---		 25 1:05.968
---
Goodyear  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing		 Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 6 +1.398
---		 3 +20.970
---		 25 1:06.673
---
Dunlop  
MagicArsouille
 Black Night Racing		 Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 2 +0.511
---		 4 +43.520
---		 25 1:06.470
---
Dunlop  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing		 Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 7 +1.470
---		 5 +30.871
---		 25 1:06.750
---
Dunlop  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing		 Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 12 +1.959
---		 6 +31.740
---		 25 1:07.206
---
Dunlop  
Raoni Frizzo
 Team Coyote		 Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 4 +0.627
---		 7 +33.874
---		 25 1:06.286
---
Dunlop  
Arf Arf Arf
 Team Baarf		 Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 10 +1.688
---		 8 +39.532
---		 25 1:06.504
---
Goodyear  
AnGex
 Black Night Racing		 Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 11 +1.945
---		 9 +39.945
---		 25 1:07.478
---
Dunlop  
PaulV
 Blue Moose Racing		 Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 13 +2.161
---		 10 +54.265
---		 25 1:07.542
---
Dunlop  
fpolicardi
 Team7		 Ferrari 512 F1 1965 8 +1.631
---		 11 +1:03.257
---		 25 1:07.392
---
Dunlop  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing		 Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 9 +1.655
---		 12 +3L
---		 22 1:07.312
---
Goodyear  
Baab
 Team Baarf		 Honda RA272 F1 1965 3 +0.536
---		 13 +8L
---		 17 1:06.235
---
Goodyear  
Ziu Bacubacu
  OLD SCHOOL RACING TEAM		 BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 14 DNS ---
---
Dunlop  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing		 Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 15 ---
---
Goodyear  
60fps UKGPL8
 		 BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 16 ---
---
Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

No reported incidents.
However there was a serious collision on Lap 1 between Tristan and Ziu who were in close contention for the lead.
Because it was a lap 1 incident, it has been reviewed.
Both cars involved were side by side approaching the turn and equally determined not to yield the lead. Tristan provokes a rally style slide into the corner from quite a long way out and Ziu maintains a more normal line on the inside.
It is fair to say that both drivers were at the limit of car control on cold tyres with full tanks and both cars were snaking under braking. Upon close inspection of the replay there is no actual contact and it has been decided that warp played a major part in sending Tristan over the top of the banking.
Racing Incident. refer both drivers to this advice https://www.ukgpl.com/rec_dvr_beh/rec_driver_beh.htm

Server replay time: 0

Once again pitstops were required by the Pro drivers and the race post clearly states that they cannot be taken on Lap 1 or Lap 25.
Tristan made his 3rd and final stop at the end of the last lap. The rules were in place to prevent drivers gaining an advantage by doing this. A car taking a pitstop mid race will suffer a "slow down" penalty on the in lap, and also a "speed up" penalty on his out lap. By taking a stop at the chequered flag the driver avoids losing the "speed up" time.
Therefore rather than a DQ, the driver is penalised with 3x the gain. A 15 second penalty is applied.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Grand Prix Legends
F1 1965		1:05.651
---		Ziu Bacubacu
Race		 Honda RA272April 21, 2020, 11:05:54 PM +0100
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« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2020, 10:02:16 PM +0100 »
I have just installed the font fix and now I can see the text in replays. So now, I know that I have to apologise to you Axel for the start of the Jops Race  oops

I could not read the name of the car that I hit before, but it was entirely my fault. Sorry my friend, I expect better of myself  no no
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« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2020, 10:03:55 PM +0100 »
Quote from: Cookie on April 22, 2020, 12:33:40 PM +0100
re the double header problem

After the end of race1 I looked into the drivers list behind the (left) main menu where the numbers are shown.

- I could see that the driver took their # of race 1 into race2 - but after the track was fully loaded the numbers got fresh assigned and changed.  
Re joining drivers got fresh numbers, so I thought all is fine...
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After the race 2 I looked into the GPLRA txt and found 2x doublettes!

So for future Double Events it is a no go to stay on the server...
Great work Axel, looks like you got to the root of the problem.

I wonder if drivers leaving and joining the server in qually causes similar issues?

We have a rule that drivers cannot swap chassis but the evidence that this sort of behaviour actually causes "doublettes" has never been proven AFAIK. It is a rule we inherited many years ago but the origin has been lost.
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« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2020, 10:50:33 PM +0100 »
No!
in a single race there is no problem even when you change 3 cars!

I saw the car numbers correctly changing,
but maybe there is a memory misadressing in the gplc65.exe as it produced 2x doublettes afterwards.

I will discuss this with the mod team in their forum.
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« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2020, 12:47:54 AM +0100 »
first sorry Axel for the touch on the Moon, I wanted let you maximum room but I touch the dust of the moon and that make me slide on your car ...! the challenge was the cooper and you manage it well Smiley ...the handicap work too Smiley and the track is cool...
2nd race was more tuff as after have been push out track by Ziu in first lap, I have to let pass everybody to re-take the track.... last! after I try a "remontada" as I can...
Thx all, it was a good tribute to Joe and good fun races...
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« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2020, 10:15:02 AM +0100 »
i had some problems with the stop races.
i thought it would be a advantage with the bt7 only 3 stops to have as a must.

The range between the pro's is big.

But i had also troubles with crashes and mistakes, freezes...
Not my favorite race style but we can retry
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