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April 05, 2020, 09:37:15 PM +0100 - Grenzlandring (1948-52) - UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1955 GP
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
GregT
 Team Baarf
Mercedes W196 SL F1 1955 1 2:03.985
162.523mph
1 44:04.738
160.000mph
21 2:04.864
161.379mph
Continental  
Dulima
 
Mercedes W196 SL F1 1955 6 +1.559
160.505mph
2 +34.273
157.953mph
21 2:05.742
160.252mph
Continental  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Lancia D50 F1 1955 7 +2.044
159.887mph
3 +34.447
157.943mph
21 2:05.413
160.672mph
Pirelli  
bagrupp
 Team Groundhog
Lancia D50 F1 1955 10 +2.916
158.788mph
4 +1:26.165
154.952mph
21 2:07.758
157.723mph
Pirelli  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Lancia D50 F1 1955 9 +2.896
158.813mph
5 +1:26.343
154.942mph
21 2:08.734
156.527mph
Pirelli  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Maserati 250F F1 1955 5 +1.492
160.590mph
6 +1L
157.840mph
20 2:05.565
160.478mph
Pirelli  
tagomago
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Lancia D50 F1 1955 15 +4.323
157.047mph
7 +3:47.183
144.943mph
20 2:16.126
148.028mph
Pirelli  
Ricardo Valim da Silva
 
Mercedes W196 SL F1 1955 3 +0.449
161.936mph
8 +20L
147.847mph
1 2:14.792
149.493mph
Disco
Continental  
Raoni Frizzo
 Team Coyote
Mercedes W196 F1 1955 4 +1.458
160.634mph
9 (+1) +0.340
147.479mph
1 2:14.411
149.916mph
accident
Continental  
Enrique Farina
 
Lancia D50 F1 1955 2 +0.233
162.218mph
10 +0.816
146.967mph
1 2:16.139
148.013mph
Disco
Pirelli  
francesco
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Mercedes W196 SL F1 1955 8 +2.344
159.507mph
11 +2.682
144.994mph
1 2:15.419
148.800mph
Disco
Continental  
Clive Loynes
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Maserati 250F F1 1955 12 +3.711
157.800mph
12 +2.864
144.804mph
1 2:14.560
149.750mph
Disco
Pirelli  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Mercedes W196 F1 1955 14 +3.842
157.638mph
13 +4.651
142.968mph
1 2:15.905
148.268mph
Disco
Continental  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
Gordini T16 F1 1955 13 +3.816
157.670mph
14 +5.187
142.427mph
1 2:15.640
148.558mph
accident
Englebert  
JonnyO
 Team Coyote
Mercedes W196 SL F1 1955 11 +3.337
158.263mph
15 +8.263
139.396mph
1 2:19.358
144.594mph
accident
Continental  
PaulV
 Blue Moose Racing
Gordini T16 F1 1955 16 +13.173
146.914mph
16 +13.805
134.249mph
1 2:22.972
140.939mph
Disco
Englebert  
4 UKGPL
 
Lancia D50 F1 1955 17 18 DNS ---
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Moderator's Report

Summary
A convincing win by Greg Taber in his Mercedes W196SL. Pole position, fastest lap and led every lap; it does not get more convincing than that. He was helped by a monumental crash on lap 2 that took out several strong contenders, nevertheless it was a dominant display. Dulima secured second place in another Streamliner with Cookie grabbing the final podium spot in his Lancia.


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Lap 2 - Gladbacher Kurve – Raoni Frizzo, Ricardo Valim da Silva, Enrique Farina, Francesco, Clive Loynes, Phil Thornton, Doni Yourth, JonnyO and PaulV

At the grandstand, Raoni got a decent draft on Ricardo and Evil Clive and cruised past both of them. Ricardo then had the benefit of a slipstream through Erkelenzer Gerade and he repaid the compliment to Raoni, drafting past on the approach to Gladbacher Kurve. At this point both drivers fought for position, Ricardo was going slightly too fast and ran wide putting his offside rear wheel on the edge of the grass, but he was managing to keep control. Raoni was trying to retake the position and drifted wide. Side by side contact was made and both cars crashed out. The barriers prevented the wreckage from clearing the tarmac and consequently several drivers were caught up in the melee.

Ricardo Valim da Silva was entitled to try to retake the position. He was ahead as the drivers approached Gladbacher Kurve, but he was going too fast and consequently ran very wide leaving the door open for Raoni.

Raoni was reluctant to concede and consequently pushed too hard into Gladbacher Kurve. If he had eased off slightly, he wouldn’t have run wide and in all probability would have retaken the position because Ricardo was struggling to maintain control on the edge of the track and was losing momentum.

This is a very long gentle curve and there isn’t a definite turn-in point, so it is fair to say the drivers were side-by-side and fighting for position when the contact occurred. Neither driver could claim to have won the corner on the basis of being ahead at the turn-in point. Consequently Raoni must shoulder responsibility for this incident. He should have stayed on his side of the track. Simple Side by Side contact, Scenario 4 applies “In a corner, after a legitimate overtaking attempt the cars end up side by side. One driver moves over instead of staying on their own side of the track. Contact is made. Penalty for driver that moves over.”

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Grand Prix Legends
F1 1955
2:03.985
162.523mph
GregT
Qualifying
Mercedes W196 SLApril 05, 2020, 09:37:15 PM +0100
S3655GP
Grand Prix Legends
F1 1955
2:04.864
161.379mph
GregT
Race
Mercedes W196 SLApril 05, 2020, 09:37:15 PM +0100
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« on: March 29, 2020, 11:38:31 PM +0100 »

Season 36 – 1955 Grand Prix – Round 6 – Grenzlandring

The sixth race in the 1955 Grand Prix series sees us back in Europe at Grenzlandring, a track around the town of Wegberg in Germany.  The first race was held on 19th September 1948 in front of about 250,000 spectators. It was organised by silk weaving mill owner and keen racing driver Emil "Teddy" Vorster (Rheydt) and his Rheydter Club für Motorsport (RCM). From 1949 onwards, the organisation was in the hands of the Motorsport-Union-Grenzlandring, a co-operation of four motorsport clubs of the Lower Rhine region. The all-time lap record was set in September 1949 by Bavarian Georg "Schorsch" Meier on a supercharged BMW 500 motorbike at 216 km/h (134 mph) (clockwise driven) and in September 1951 Toni Ulmen set the all-time record for cars, driving his Veritas 2000 RS to 212 km/h (132 mph) (anti-clockwise). No doubt genuine Grand Prix cars would have been a lot quicker. Racing came to an end after 31 August 1952, when Helmut Niedermayr from Berlin crashed his Formula Two Reif/Veritas-Meteor at the exit of the Roermonder Kurve at nearly 200 km/h (120 mph) killing at least 13 spectators.
 
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IP address77.102.28.179
Date05-04-2020
Trackgrnzland
Mod55GP with 60fpsV2newmod
Damage PRO long
Race time~ 21:30 UK time
Qualifying 20:45 UK time - 45 minutes
Race length21 laps
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Handicapping and chassis allocation.
The 1955 Grand Prix cars will be using a token system which allows drivers to purchase any chassis of their choice for a given number of tokens as published on the championship standings page. Drivers classed as Juniors will be allocated an additional 10 tokens.  The tokens available to each driver will be published in the race announcement. See table below.

Available Tokens:
Note: These are the tokens available to each driver before the 10 tokens are added for making the race start.

Driver        Tokens  Status
bagrupp
22
Senior
Clive Loynes
19
Senior
Doni Yourth
12
Senior
Dulima
30
Senior
EvilClive
11
Senior
fpolicardi
23
Senior
GregT
38
Senior
JonnyO
40
Senior
Leon Forst
8
Senior
Ziu Bacubacu
10
Senior
5117sebas
10
Junior
Durval Becho
20
Junior
enrique farina
43
Junior
francesco
21
Junior
Gareth
10
Junior
luiz covisi
25
Junior
PaulV
8
Junior
Phil Thornton
30
Junior
Ricardo Valim da Silva
10
Junior
tagomago
30
Junior
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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2020, 02:08:54 PM +0100 »

I think that this will be little short of utter madness!
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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2020, 02:59:34 PM +0100 »

FWIW...This is a track that I just do not like, don't know why, as it ain't difficult....just turn left, a little more, or a little less !!??
Oh!, and make sure you stay in someone's slipstream until the last lap......hmmmmm? maybe I will let Mr Loynes take the lead on this one  Roll Eyes whistling whistling
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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2020, 03:03:32 PM +0100 »

FWIW...This is a track that I just do not like, don't know why, as it ain't difficult....just turn left, a little more, or a little less !!??
Oh!, and make sure you stay in someone's slipstream until the last lap......hmmmmm? maybe I will let Mr Loynes take the lead on this one  Roll Eyes whistling whistling

A fast car would still be an advantage whistling
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« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2020, 06:32:34 PM +0100 »

Practice server is up with TeamSpeak  (IP same as UKGPL_4, password ISOFUN)
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« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2020, 08:01:03 PM +0100 »

Need an SL to slipstream.   Sad
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« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2020, 08:07:07 PM +0100 »

…...and a strong tow rope?
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« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2020, 08:34:17 PM +0100 »

Possibly.

But I've given up.  The whole damn planet on lockdown and all the servers empty.

tut tut tut grumble moan!
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« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2020, 08:49:49 PM +0100 »

I would have joined you Clive, but I am still working my way through a complete Win 10/ GPL / and GTL install after Mr Gates sent me an update that didn't!!

I still have TeamSpeak to dload and install, plus get printers etc working...oh and I have partaken of a rather large Rum...……… mainly because I was so pi**ed off with Microsoft!! Don't think that would have improved my PB at Glenzaneriging...Gad handing.....globrandring...Glenzanderish thing.

Be back tomorrows  Grin
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« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2020, 10:32:32 PM +0100 »

I would have joined you Clive, but I am still working my way through a complete Win 10/ GPL / and GTL install after Mr Gates sent me an update that didn't!!

I still have TeamSpeak to dload and install, plus get printers etc working...oh and I have partaken of a rather large Rum...……… mainly because I was so pi**ed off with Microsoft!! Don't think that would have improved my PB at Glenzaneriging...Gad handing.....globrandring...Glenzanderish thing.

Be back tomorrows  Grin

Hope you are better soon, but much slower.

We are all so preoccupied with covid-19 that I was forgetting the virus-like properties of Windows10!   
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« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2020, 09:19:26 AM +0100 »

I recovered from the mild rum overdose just fine thanks Clive.
Just a temporary aberration, and very few people would have noticed any change I suspect.  Undecided.  I did try a couple of laps in the Slipstreamer at Werberg ( avoided the spelling glitch this time ) and that car is insanely fast around this track. Even though I have rarely driven the tank, and anyway have lost any setups that I might have had, I was still clocking 2:03's in a car that was struggling on the slightly tighter bits to carry the speed and the gearing was wrong anyway. The problem that I foresee with this car is that although it is the fastest, there will be no car that it can slipstream from, whereas ( like Clive said earlier ) any other car will benefit hugely if it can hook up the tow.

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Covid-19 apparently crossed the species barrier from animals to infect humans. It struck me in a moment of rare scientific clarity, that we would really be in trouble if a computer virus found a way to jump that same barrier !!  Roll Eyes  ………………..Strange how the human mind works at times?
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« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2020, 10:36:59 AM +0100 »

I imagine that the the front rows of the grid will resemble a flotilla of aircraft carriers.  If one of them makes a clean break at the front then we can kiss him goodbye.  We shall just have to hope that they all stay in a bunch, to tow the rest of us, so we can wait for the the inevitable predation.
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« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2020, 10:50:12 AM +0100 »

I fully understand what you are predicting in terms of aircraft carriers and the potential for a scrapfest at T1.
My biggest worry would be, that if enough of those slabs get intimate with each other and form a road block, there is no way that the brakes on the following cars will give any chance of avoiding the carnage  Undecided  Just head for a gap and close your eyes and kiss your a** steering wheel goodbye, is the only advice I can offer .

Should the server manifest itself on IGOR, I hope to be online at random times today testing my new GPL install, TeamSpeak, Speakers etc. So we might hook up a few practice laps, although I still have no idea which car to use.
If I want to win, then logic says it has to be a silver tank, but that requires spending tokens... and that is against my religion  scared
The Gordini could be fun if I can pick up some slipstream, but by the time I can get that little garlic cooker off the grid the fast cars will be half a lap away!! Plus there are no brakes required on this track, so no opportunities to demon brake down the inside??
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« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2020, 11:12:35 AM +0100 »

Should the server manifest itself on IGOR, I hope to be online at random times today testing my new GPL install, TeamSpeak, Speakers etc. So we might hook up a few practice laps, although I still have no idea which car to use.
Clive server will be back up in the next 5 mins.  I've just been loading the tracks for the JSMT and setting up a mini season (see mod forum for details).
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« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2020, 02:41:14 PM +0100 »

Tried the SL and can only do mid-5s in free air.  And it's a hairy ride when the tyres get hot!
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