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August 27, 2006, 08:59:58 PM +0100 - Spa (2004-6) - UKGTL
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Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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Porsche 911 RSR 3.0 (#82) GTC-TC-76 2 +0.253
97.467mph
1 1:21:00.424
92.977mph
29 2:40.182
97.283mph
Goodyear  
JonM_uk
 Ze Penguin Brotherhood
Porsche 906 (#30) GTC-TC-76 1 2:39.628
97.621mph
2 +13.363
92.722mph
29 2:39.384
97.770mph
Michelin  
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
Ford Escort RS (#74) GTC-TC-76 3 +2.925
95.864mph
3 +1:26.732
91.347mph
29 2:42.811
95.712mph
Avon  
TinMan
 Team Oldie Racing
Porsche 906 (#30) GTC-TC-76 7 +5.188
94.548mph
4 +2:22.599
90.327mph
29 2:44.943
94.475mph
Michelin  
JohnnyDee
 Ghostspeed
DeTomaso Pantera (#202552) GTC-TC-76 4 +3.011
95.814mph
5 +2:56.555
89.718mph
29 2:44.578
94.685mph
Avon  
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#200103) GTC-TC-76 5 +4.697
94.831mph
6 +1L
89.225mph
28 2:44.274
94.860mph
Avon  
pribeiro
 Ghostspeed
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#202551) GTC-TC-76 7 +1:10.135
87.963mph
28 2:44.186
94.911mph
Avon  
Oilseal
 Team Oldie Racing
Porsche 906 (#30) GTC-TC-76 8 +8.163
92.872mph
8 +1:44.553
87.357mph
28 2:48.790
92.322mph
Michelin  
Clarey
 
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#121205) GTC-TC-76 10 +13.440
90.040mph
9 +2L
85.578mph
27 2:48.174
92.660mph
Avon  
BillThomas
 
Porsche 906 (#30) GTC-TC-76 9 +12.083
90.752mph
10 +30.260
85.055mph
27 2:53.404
89.866mph
Michelin  
Woodee
 
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#89) GTC-TC-76 6 +5.181
94.552mph
11 +1:08.528
84.402mph
27 2:45.247
94.302mph
Avon  
ASSASSINO
 Ghostspeed
Chevrolet Corvette 1969 (#85) GTC-TC-76 12 +4L 25 2:45.754
94.013mph
engine
Avon  
will16v
 28CD Motorsports
DeTomaso Pantera (#86) GTC-TC-76 +29L 0 ---
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unknown
Avon  
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GTC-TC-76
2:39.628
97.621mph
JonM_uk
Qualifying
Porsche 906August 27, 2006, 08:59:58 PM +0100
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GT Legends
GTC-TC-76
2:39.384
97.770mph
JonM_uk
Race
Porsche 906August 27, 2006, 08:59:58 PM +0100
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« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2006, 07:29:46 PM +0100 »

I think Gizmo has hit maths wrong, it should be about 29 laps I think (at roughly 2:42 per lap in a 76 car), unless he's lapping twice as fast as everyone else?  Wink Shocked Grin

Well, just for you I'll slow down and reduce the race length to 29 then. Wink Tongue No idea where 44 laps came from!
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« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2006, 08:30:43 PM +0100 »

I didnt realise that GTL didnt have rain !?...thought we just hadnt ran in it yet  Undecided Embarrassed

What a crap oversight for a racing sim Angry...wonder why Simbin cut corners on this follow up sim, ie with the slightly arcadey feel, poor damage modelling, no race warmup sesh etc...bit poor show. They could at least fix it with a Le Mans add-on series  Cool Grin
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« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2006, 09:09:01 PM +0100 »

What a crap oversight for a racing sim Angry...wonder why Simbin cut corners on this follow up sim, ie with the slightly arcadey feel, poor damage modelling, no race warmup sesh etc...bit poor show. They could at least fix it with a Le Mans add-on series  Cool Grin

GPL managed perfectly well without rain. Tongue
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« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2006, 10:45:33 PM +0100 »

time acceleration will be realtime I take it?
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« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2006, 10:55:59 PM +0100 »

time acceleration will be realtime I take it?

It would be cool to have a full cycle in 80 minutes. Looks fake I know, but it adds some IMO.
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« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2006, 10:59:25 PM +0100 »

When we trialed GTL, people veto'd non-day settings due to their hardware not being able to cope (they didn't want to turn it down!  Tongue)

It's a real shame for me as I like nightime stuff.  Cool
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« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2006, 11:35:45 PM +0100 »

why 80 mins? and not rounded up to an hour and a half? I'd like to do some night-day transitions... not sure how much my system would cope though. The healights on these cars seem to be overly fragile... even in the cars with the setback headlights (eg GT40 etc...)
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« Reply #22 on: August 26, 2006, 06:18:07 PM +0100 »

Hi chaps,

I've been away for a while (moved house etc) but have just set up everything again, so i'll join if there are any spare places late-on.  I'm very rusty so i'll get some practice tonight (just looked and found a practice server).

I'm also on a new ISP (NTL) so i dont know what my connection will be like (so please tell me if its crap!)

Looking forward to getting back behind the wheel.

Phil.
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« Reply #23 on: August 26, 2006, 06:36:14 PM +0100 »

why 80 mins? and not rounded up to an hour and a half?

Its double the length of a sprint race. This is the length we use for GTR Endurance races, so perfectly normal for SimRacing.org.uk.
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« Reply #24 on: August 26, 2006, 11:11:10 PM +0100 »

why 80 mins? and not rounded up to an hour and a half?

Its double the length of a sprint race. This is the length we use for GTR Endurance races, so perfectly normal for SimRacing.org.uk.

Ah ok... i'd do well to finish just half of it anyway Smiley
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« Reply #25 on: August 27, 2006, 10:33:52 PM +0100 »

Had a nice race, got to know the track more the race went on. Was well pleased with my fastest lap 2-39-3 Grin But Radius had me well beaten. Sorry for spin Radius. I had a double downshift moment Sad And sorry to Bill for getting lapping pass wrong Sad
Nice racing all Smiley
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« Reply #26 on: August 27, 2006, 10:34:12 PM +0100 »

Really really enjoyed the race. Hard work trying to hang on to Dave in the first half of the race. He came into the pits behind me and when I came out he was 8.6 secs in front. Came around again and he was back in the pits - oh dear Tongue. Wouldn't have caught him otherwise.
Delighted with 4th. Grats to the winner - and to Ruskus for making the Escort go so fast.



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« Reply #27 on: August 27, 2006, 10:38:16 PM +0100 »

I was happy with quallifying 3rd. I was way slower than JonM and Radius in the 906 and 911, but I could get my little Escort up to pace a bit.

One thing I just cannot get. Why oh why do people weave so much during the formation lap. Especially at Spa, weaving at the first straight after Eau Rouge has no use at all. First of all the speed is too slow to get good friction, and second, by the time the lap ends, the tyres are cold again. It's much more efficient to fully lock the steering during a corner. Do that in both a right hander and a left hander, and the tyres will be up to temp very quickly. It's much safer and much more efficient. To many incidents happy by excessive weaving.
And why can't people remember it's a rolling start. Almost every event there is somebody shooting off when the lights go green. The starting procedure is always the same at GTL. The only standing start is with the Elise cup in GTR.
This is not aimed personally towards anybody. It's just to bring it up, because they re-occure often.

The race was pure boredome. Driving laps for 80 minutes, nothing more. After 20 minutes I turned the tv on, to have something to watch.

I was surprised to get to the finish with the Escort, because i couldn't lower the rev limiter. I've blown Escort engines even before the startline, just after the lights went green Grin
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« Reply #28 on: August 27, 2006, 10:56:18 PM +0100 »

Really really enjoyed the race. Hard work trying to hang on to Dave in the first half of the race. He came into the pits behind me and when I came out he was 8.6 secs in front. Came around again and he was back in the pits - oh dear Tongue. Wouldn't have caught him otherwise.
Delighted with 4th. Grats to the winner - and to Ruskus for making the Escort go so fast.

Another totally haddocked up pit stop. Hopefully by the time the scored Comet races start I'll have worked out how to do them properly.

Hung onto Johnny reasonably well in the first half, was actually being held up in some parts of the track towards the end of the stint as his tyres went off, which was worrying as Tom was all over me in the Bus Stop.

Had a couple of minor offs but concentration level back up again after Thursday nightmare at Mondello. Came in to do my stop right behind Tom, checked that they were going to give me fuel and tyres and said okay. Couldn't believe he was still sitting there as I passed through the speed limit point, got back on track, tyres felt scarily cold and then it dawned on me that I'd not really checked the amount of fuel they were going to give me properly, and they'd put next to none in, so I had to come back in at once. This time I got it right, and also left the tyres alone, but it cost me what would've been 4th place after Johnny's splash and dash, assuming I could've held Tom off.

When we do this again I'm going to make it a scoring event for Ladder purposes in the hope of attracting more entries.

To many incidents happy by excessive weaving.

I can't see how weaving causes incidents unless people are actually going off. If anyone's weaving so hard they fall off the track in these cars they really need to calm down a bit.

As usual, report incidents needing moderation via the form once the results are up.

And why can't people remember it's a rolling start. Almost every event there is somebody shooting off when the lights go green. The starting procedure is always the same at GTL. The only standing start is with the Elise cup in GTR.

Especially as somebody asked at the end of qually and I reminded everyone at least twice before the race. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #29 on: August 27, 2006, 10:57:52 PM +0100 »

Strange thing on the penultimate lap, coming up to the Bus Stop I thought I braked as normal but the car just didn't slow as if the brakes had overheated, but then it felt normal again after that. Huh
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