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  • Elise Cup @ Donington: August 15, 2006
August 15, 2006, 09:21:57 PM +0100 - Donington Park (GP) - UKGTR GTR1 Sprint Elise Cup
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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Matjaz Plotajs
 dE Racing
Lotus Elise G3 1 1:40.559
88.713mph
1 40:52.454
87.301mph
24 1:41.164
88.182mph
Dunlop  
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
Lotus Elise G3 2 +0.782
88.028mph
2 +25.871
86.390mph
24 1:41.535
87.860mph
Dunlop  
JonM_uk
 Ze Penguin Brotherhood
Lotus Elise G3 3 +1.098
87.755mph
3 +44.487
85.745mph
24 1:41.957
87.497mph
Dunlop  
stnasky
 
Lotus Elise G3 14 +4.284
85.088mph
4 +50.855
85.527mph
24 1:42.494
87.038mph
Dunlop  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Lotus Elise G3 7 +2.051
86.940mph
5 +55.372
85.373mph
24 1:42.576
86.969mph
Dunlop  
LEUVEN
 CBFR
Lotus Elise G3 4 +1.326
87.558mph
6 +1:00.767
85.190mph
24 1:42.153
87.329mph
Dunlop  
RS
 RS Motorsport
Lotus Elise G3 8 +2.148
86.858mph
7 +1:04.436
85.066mph
24 1:43.293
86.365mph
Dunlop  
Zacari
 Team Shark
Lotus Elise G3 6 +1.779
87.171mph
8 +1:05.398
85.033mph
24 1:42.812
86.769mph
Dunlop  
BigG
 RS Motorsport
Lotus Elise G3 10 +2.633
86.449mph
9 +1:16.487
84.660mph
24 1:42.368
87.145mph
Dunlop  
greg130
 28CD Motorsports
Lotus Elise G3 9 +2.309
86.722mph
10 +1:26.002
84.343mph
24 1:43.951
85.818mph
Dunlop  
Don
 Legends Racing
Lotus Elise G3 13 +3.526
85.708mph
11 +1L
82.957mph
23 1:44.216
85.600mph
Dunlop  
mclaessen
 28CD Motorsports
Lotus Elise G3 12 +3.429
85.788mph
12 +23.470
82.178mph
23 1:43.663
86.057mph
Dunlop  
Chunky
 
Lotus Elise G3 17 +5.210
84.343mph
13 +37.901
81.705mph
23 1:45.463
84.588mph
Dunlop  
Adam Parle
 
Lotus Elise G3 11 +3.113
86.049mph
14 +45.263
81.467mph
23 1:44.789
85.132mph
Dunlop  
Rob Bywater "Kerb Crawlers"
 Kerb Crawlers
Lotus Elise G3 18 +5.835
83.848mph
15 +58.958
81.026mph
23 1:46.162
84.031mph
Dunlop  
silver53
 Ze Penguin Brotherhood
Lotus Elise G3 19 +6.506
83.322mph
16 +1:08.512
80.721mph
23 1:45.744
84.363mph
Dunlop  
maverick
 Team Shark
Lotus Elise G3 16 +5.139
84.400mph
17 +2L
78.913mph
22 1:44.972
84.984mph
Dunlop  
crow
 mad crow
Lotus Elise G3 15 +5.026
84.490mph
18 +1.555
78.864mph
22 1:45.619
84.463mph
Dunlop  
Jamera
 28CD Motorsports
Lotus Elise G3 20 +7.393
82.638mph
19 +9.602
78.610mph
22 1:46.024
84.140mph
Dunlop  
Truetom
 Ze Penguin Brotherhood
Lotus Elise G3 5 +1.509
87.401mph
20 +6L 18 1:43.086
86.538mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Edza
 Kerb Crawlers
Lotus Elise G3 21 +8.492
81.805mph
21 +23L 1 2:28.920
59.904mph
unknown
Dunlop  

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Headlights should not be permanently turned on during fair weather daylight races except by class leaders.

  • crowcaution — driving with lights on


Server replay time: 44s

Maverick is very slow away at the start, and when he finally gets going it seems he spins the rears up and spears left across the track, catching Rob B and Edza in the process.

  • maverickadvice — take more care during the start on cold tyres


Server replay time: 1069s

Adam Parle touches Crow's rear at the end of the braking zone for Coppice, pushing him onto the grass and allowing both Adam and Don to pass him. Adam had room on the outside to avoid contact, but Crow braked a touch earlier than the lap before so I'm reducing this to just a caution.

  • Adam Parlecaution — rear ending Crow
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 1267s

Rob B gets the Old Hairpin wrong and spins in front of Adam Parle, who runs into him.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 1300s

Adam has 80% overlap on Rob B as they head towards Coppice. Adam brakes slightly earlier and harder but cannot back out fully, and Rob turns across him. Adam spins as a result.

Adam still had substantial overlap at the turn in point and in my opinion Rob was lucky not to be the one spinning out. Rob says he knew Adam was in his blindspot, yet he chose to turn in anyway; 90% of the time the person ahead will end up being spun out.

Adam felt guilty for this one but he was so far alongside Rob into the braking zone that he was never going to be able to back out of it fully, and Rob should've have left him room.

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« Reply #45 on: August 15, 2006, 08:15:35 PM +0100 »

I've had no reply back yet from the creator of the skinpack, he may even be on holiday Undecided  I have the skin pack installed on my pc and the necessary zip file but cant really generally release it without knowing if its up for public consumption. I cant really see Porschenut having any issues with us using, but egh, what do 'ya do?  Lips Sealed

Can anyone decipher this text thats in the readme with the file. It might say 'help  yourself'  Wink

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Carset v1.0

Changelog 0.5 -> 1.0:

- Gastenwagen toegevoegd
- GDB's geupdate
- Wielen geupdate
- Wagen Jaap-Jan Aardappel toegevoegd
- LOD-textures toegevoegd (met dank aan Roy)

Installatie:
- Simpelweg deze hele rar extracten naar je GTR directory, dan staat alles gelijk op de goede
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Tot zover voor nu; succes ermee en meld eventuele bugs die je vind op [email protected].

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« Reply #46 on: August 15, 2006, 08:25:05 PM +0100 »

Changelog 0.5 -> 1.0:

- Gastenwagen toegevoegd
- GDB's geupdate
- Wielen geupdate
- Wagen Jaap-Jan Aardappel toegevoegd
- LOD-textures toegevoegd (met dank aan Roy)

Installatie:
- Simpelweg deze hele rar extracten naar je GTR directory, dan staat alles gelijk op de goede
  plaats.


Tot zover voor nu; succes ermee en meld eventuele bugs die je vind op [email protected].

M. vr. gr.,

Bram Knot aka Bramzel.

It's Dutch:

- Guestcar added
- GDB's updated
- wheels updated
- Jaap-Jan Aardappel's car added
- LOD-textures added (thanks to Roy)

Installation:
- Simply extract this whole rar into your GTR directory, everything will be in the right spot then.
 
So far till now, good luck and report bugs that you find to.....@.....

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« Reply #47 on: August 15, 2006, 10:02:26 PM +0100 »

Well, what was promising suddenly became carnage.
Was taken out (along with Rob) on the start and lost it at the last corner of the first lap trying to get past Jamera.

I don't know who subsequently hit me (Maurice?) but I apologise for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Then something wierd happened - was going into my second lap and everyone just disappeared!  Shocked
(no, not into the distance sarkies!) I could see cars ahead of me then they just vanished! Stopped after a while and waited on the track to see if I was driving by myself and no one was on track......wierd!

Anyway, if all went well for everyone else then I hope it was a good one, those Elises are loads of fun.
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« Reply #48 on: August 15, 2006, 10:04:01 PM +0100 »

Voila:

- not enough practice
- 5th on the grid - ok
- untested setup with race parameters
- huge understeer after 10 laps
- losing places
- struggling
- crash into Crow at his rejoining the track

Sorry buddy, had nowhere to go. Neither had you.  Grin
Otherwise an enjoyable event. Will there be just Elises on Tuesdays?

TT

P.S. Now you see why Jon likes Laško Pivo. Matjaz grew up on it, milk didn't have enough foam!  alien
Grats to the winner.

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« Reply #49 on: August 15, 2006, 10:11:48 PM +0100 »

Cracking start to the race for me after a PB in qualifying, up to 8th (I think) and was going really well.  One mistake took me back to 11th, and had another good spell with a group of us very close together.  After battling with Don (gentlemanly driving once again sir!) I spun and was left looking at Don speed up the road whilst I was waiting for a safe spot to rejoin, after that I couldn't get in a rythm, and when I was starting to get it together, I would spin, someone else would spin and leave me nowhere to go .... had an off after side contact (waiting to see the replay on that one), and then some more spins.

Shame I couldn't maintain my early form, but on the whole (excluding the offs that weren't due to driver error on my part) it was thoroughly enjoyable.

Thanks again all.
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« Reply #50 on: August 15, 2006, 10:17:37 PM +0100 »

I'm longing for the day that Lasko pivo will be in my life again drool
Just a shame life costs so much and I can't get a holiday Sad
Great race. I had a great battle with Ruskus. He seemed faster on the straights and I couldn't get close enough to have a pop under the brakes but in the end traffic came to my aid and let me just get close enough to go around the outside at turn 1. As soon as I passed Ruskus seemed to find an extra 0.3 a lap and was soon up my rear. I think he would've got by in the end TBH but I got a bit too excited and double downshifted into turn 1 Sad Would've been a great scrap with only 5mins left and now can only dream of what could've been.
The cars seemed very closely matched, that was the best fight I've had in GTR in a long time. Long live the Elise's....And Lasko hmmmm
Grats to Matjaz who was a beast in his Lotus. Way faster than the rest. Well done, it's just a shame you couldn't drink some Zlatorog club before you raced Wink
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« Reply #51 on: August 15, 2006, 10:38:15 PM +0100 »

Man what a hard race.

In practice this afternoon I was doing high 42's low 43's. So I thought I had no chance when people were gonna do 41's (and even 40's by Matjas Shocked).
But I did a high 41 in qually somehow, and in the last 5 minutes I tried once more and got a 1:41.3 and 2nd place.

I couldn't see the light at the start so I had to watch my timer and from my point of view a had a bit better start than Matjaz, but I was keeping it safe in T1 and taking it like a granny.
He was so much quicker that I had no chance to keep up, and risking trying the whole race is not possible. For 25 minutes I had Jon right  behind me, never more than 1 sec Cheesy. It was a real nerve test that Smiley.
After that a backmarker spun infront of us and I lost some speed there and Jon was able to take my place. I thought he was a bit faster so I was gonna lose him once he passed. And he did move away from me the following laps. But at that point I tried 2 laps pushing pretty hard and see if I could get any closer, and luckily I did, and I could get the pressure on him Smiley.
In the last hairpin I had some better exitspeed and I could just get a bit alongside heading towards Redgate. But with 3 minutes to go it was way too risky to leave my car on the inside and I braked early. But Jon unluckily double shifted downwards Sad. That was a shame, 'cause like Jon said, it could have been a very interesting last 3 minutes. And the race deserved a close finish.

Although I don't like these cars (never used 5th gear Roll Eyes), the races could prove close and fun.
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« Reply #52 on: August 15, 2006, 10:49:14 PM +0100 »

That was easier then I thought it would be. I had no special practice because I just formated my PC (I do it once a year  Smiley) and installed my bellowed GTR just before the race. Still I had a nice setup stored from previous races with Elise @ Donington so my car was perfect and I just had to find the braking points. I think that was my PB with Elise in qualifying but at the start of the race I had a small problem not being able to see the lights. Totally forgot about this little "bug" but still I had my dashboard so I just listened to rumbling motors behind me and waited for the timer to show up on the screen and off we went. Ruskus was a bit quicker at the start so I had to brake really late into the first corner and just managed to stay in the lead. I needed about 3 laps to get into the rhythm and from then on I was really flying and building a decent gap towards Ruskus behind me. I was surprised about my very constant lap times and how well my car performed in those fast corners which enabled me to have very good acceleration out of the corners. I was very carefull overtaking the backmarkers and they were all very fair and watching the mirrors so no problems there. My only scary moment was when Maverick was trying to get out of the sand and reversing on the track but I saw his intentions so I was able to go left on the grass avoiding the hit. That's a good thing about this little cars... because they are so slow and you have time to avoid the troubles and/or prepare the attack so I'm really looking forward to racing again with you. I'm sure it won't be so easy as it was today.

Thanks for a great race and a great turn out... 21 drivers if I'm not mistaken.  thumbup1

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« Reply #53 on: August 15, 2006, 10:52:28 PM +0100 »

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« Reply #54 on: August 15, 2006, 11:02:28 PM +0100 »

...After that a backmarker spun infront of us and I lost some speed there and Jon was able to take my place

Sorry, the curse of Adam Parle strikes again, my tyres were overheating badly after a couple of spins, and just lost it at silly low speed....apologies for it again.
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« Reply #55 on: August 15, 2006, 11:18:24 PM +0100 »

Sorry, the curse of Adam Parle strikes again, my tyres were overheating badly after a couple of spins, and just lost it at silly low speed....apologies for it again.

LOL! No problem at all. Grin
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« Reply #56 on: August 16, 2006, 07:54:20 AM +0100 »

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« Reply #57 on: August 16, 2006, 09:55:45 AM +0100 »

After battling with Don (gentlemanly driving once again sir!) I spun and was left looking at Don speed up the road whilst I was waiting for a safe spot to rejoin...

Thanks for the complement Adam, I kept looking in my mirrors expecting you to catch up again. Had a few battles with the Crow along the way also Wink

The Elises are a great leveler and really provide some great racing IMO. These kind of races are everything I was hoping GTL would be, but as some of us have found the overly aggressive nature of GTL league meets has soured the enjoyment of it for some of us.
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« Reply #58 on: August 16, 2006, 10:03:04 AM +0100 »

Well it was nice to see a resonably full grid, just shows theres life in the old girl yet.
Always fun driving these little beauties even without any practice or setup.
Was going along nicely in 6th or 7th until I made a complete mess of the Esses and flipped the car over on its side, appologies to whoever it was ran into my stranded car.
After that I was kind of stranded between 2 sets of cars without much action apart from the odd visit from BigG who kept spinning allowing me to catch him up before speeding off again.
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« Reply #59 on: August 16, 2006, 10:11:27 AM +0100 »

A cracking race, great fun.  Cool

Qualied 7th despite setting a 1:42 Shocked time in a hastily scrambled together setup which seemed to work really well at Donington as i was able to throw the car through the different undulating corners. Amazing pace as always up front, getting a top 10 place is a real feat lately Lips Sealed
Race started great with a good clean get away and was part of the front 7 car pack that pulled away from the rest of the grid who were all jostling for position. Kept a tight rein on TT and RSM? just in front of me until they both had errors in turn at the chicane and i was able to zoom through. Found myself in 4th place and stayed a second or so behind JonM and Ruskus battle for quite a few laps with a healthy gap over TT & RS behind me, until i slightly over-shot the chicane and lost about 6 seconds crawling across the grass verge, wary of spinning.  Embarrassed
Then kept a watching brief for rest of race about 9-10 secs behind JonM/Ruskus and a 10 second+ gap back to a chasing Leuven.
Had a half spin late on at the downhill hairpin and Leuven closed up to a couple of secs behind but i pulled out a good gap again.

Towards race end, JonM made an error and i was able to close right up on him, his tyres seemed to be giving him trouble and he was un-expectadly shaky through a few corners Huh...i saw a podium place for the taking and began to harry his car for one or two laps but then alas on the penultimate lap, following too close to his rear in turn 1, i late braked myself, sliding sideways off into the gravel and watched with horror as Leuven and ?? steamed past. Sad
I was gutted, as i'd held 4th the entire race and now dropped to 6th  :'(

Luckily for me, i got some consolation on the very last lap when Leuven somehow lost it at the downhill chicane and i re-claimed a place to finish 5th  Cool

Great fun and good clean racing. However despite recent post on driving standards, I still had trouble with two back markers who tried to race me and wouldnt move off line, one cost me 3 seconds on one lap Sad , can only presume they didnt have name/position tags on Huh
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