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  • UKGTL Ladder - GTC-TC-76@Combe: August 31, 2006
August 31, 2006, 08:53:28 PM +0100 - Castle Combe (Car) - UKGTL Ladder GTC-TC-76
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
LeH
 Ghostspeed
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#202551) GTC-TC-76 1 1:03.476
104.926mph
1 40:31.836
98.596mph
36 1:04.545
103.188mph
Avon  
Pero_Grozni
 RS Motorsport
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#89) GTC-TC-76 3 +0.699
103.783mph
2 +11.074
98.149mph
36 1:04.427
103.377mph
Avon  
pribeiro
 Ghostspeed
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#202551) GTC-TC-76 4 +0.912
103.440mph
3 (+3) +42.852
96.889mph
36 1:05.355
101.909mph
Avon  
ASSASSINO
 Ghostspeed
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#202551) GTC-TC-76 8 +2.131
101.518mph
4 +57.696
96.311mph
36 1:06.067
100.811mph
Avon  
Radius
 
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#89) GTC-TC-76 14 +3.303
99.736mph
5 +1:03.991
96.068mph
36 1:05.207
102.141mph
Avon  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 RSR 2.8 (#200873) GTC-TC-76 13 +2.651
100.720mph
6 +1L
95.553mph
35 1:05.906
101.057mph
Goodyear  
Carl Hart
 
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#200870) GTC-TC-76 12 +2.426
101.063mph
7 +9.042
95.200mph
35 1:06.106
100.752mph
Avon  
JohnnyDee
 Ghostspeed
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#202551) GTC-TC-76 11 +2.424
101.067mph
8 +32.307
94.304mph
35 1:06.644
99.938mph
Avon  
picnic
 Team Shark
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#200103) GTC-TC-76 15 +3.323
99.706mph
9 +2L
92.125mph
34 1:06.937
99.501mph
Avon  
BillThomas
 
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#89) GTC-TC-76 18 +5.940
95.947mph
10 +3L
90.261mph
33 1:09.513
95.813mph
Avon  
BigG
 RS Motorsport
Porsche 911 RSR 3.0 (#83) GTC-TC-76 9 +2.205
101.403mph
11 +59.999
88.091mph
33 1:05.897
101.071mph
Goodyear  
Oilseal
 Team Oldie Racing
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#89) GTC-TC-76 17 +5.665
96.329mph
12 33 1:09.143
96.326mph
suspension
Avon  
JonM_uk
 Ze Penguin Brotherhood
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#89) GTC-TC-76 2 +0.487
104.127mph
13 +6L 30 1:05.574
101.569mph
DQ
Avon  
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
Chevrolet Corvette 1969 (#85) GTC-TC-76 7 +2.011
101.704mph
14 +9L 27 1:06.143
100.695mph
suspension
Avon  
D_Nichols
 Racing for Yorkshire
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#89) GTC-TC-76 16 +3.681
99.175mph
15 +17L 19 1:06.253
100.528mph
unknown
Avon  
Dan Minton
 Team RVS
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#89) GTC-TC-76 5 +1.037
103.239mph
16 +19L 17 1:04.871
102.670mph
suspension
Avon  
will16v
 28CD Motorsports
Porsche 911 RSR 3.0 (#853) GTC-TC-76 19 +5.978
95.895mph
17 +20L 16 1:09.303
96.104mph
suspension
Goodyear  
james
 
Porsche 911 RSR 3.0 (#81) GTC-TC-76 6 +1.529
102.458mph
18 +26L 10 1:05.136
102.252mph
suspension
Goodyear  
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#200103) GTC-TC-76 10 +2.384
101.128mph
19 10 1:07.008
99.395mph
unknown
Avon  
Zacari
 Team Shark
Chevrolet Corvette 1969 (#85) GTC-TC-76 +36L 0 ---
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unknown
Avon  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 282s

PRibeiro runs off the track after hitting a post at the chicane. He attempts to rejoin at the next corner, but cuts violently across to the left, collecting Dave. PRibeiro didn't bother to submit an incident report, so I can only treat this as an unsafe rejoin.


Server replay time: 318s

JonM carries a bit too much speed into T2, and slides off the track. From this point he is a passenger, and is unable to avoid contact with LeH as he comes back on. Jon spins, and Pero clips him as he goes past. Fortunately both LeH and Pero are able to continue, and Jon waits for a safe opportunity to pull away.

Racing incident.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 446s

Jon is catching James quickly coming up to the last corner. Jon moves to the inside, and gets a slight overlap before the turn-in point. Jon holds a tight line on the inside, but James turns in on him. There is side-by-side contact and James spins.

James should have seen Jon was closing on him and had moved to the inside, and left more room accordingly. I'm reducing this to a warning, as Jon only gets a slight overlap.


Server replay time: 590s

JonM misses the pit lane entrance and cuts across the grass. No other cars were close, so this wasn't hazardous.

  • JonM_ukadvice — check where the pit lane entrance is before the race

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GT Legends
GTC-TC-76
1:03.476
104.926mph
LeH
Qualifying
Ford Capri 3100 RSAugust 31, 2006, 08:53:28 PM +0100
LL7
GT Legends
GTC-TC-76
1:04.427
103.377mph
Pero_Grozni
Race
Ford Capri 3100 RSAugust 31, 2006, 08:53:28 PM +0100
LL7
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« Reply #45 on: September 01, 2006, 08:57:21 AM +0100 »

There's no way the merc at the last event, which was 3 seconds a lap slower than the Healey and the Alpine, was adjusted properly.  Unless it's based on time rather than position I don't think it ever will be.  The choice of cars definately adds to the events though Smiley

I wanted avoid trying to rate the cars per event or per track, it would've made things too complicated. The Merc was always going to be at a disadvantage at a very twisty track like Mondello, and the Vette is bound to struggle at Combe where the two chicanes punish its large weight; members are expected to use their own initiative when picking cars for an event and take these things into account.

The Ladder is meant to be primarily fun and a 'championship' second, and I'm not going to lose sleep if a car rating isn't quite right for a specific combination.
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« Reply #46 on: September 01, 2006, 10:56:36 AM +0100 »

To Dave:- i checked the rules again but couldnt find the answer, if we are lapping cars are we allowed to flash the headlights (once) to make them aware we are lapping them or is it only the car in 1st place allowed to do that?

Sometimes you come up behind a battle-ing trio of cars, or even an individual, who are probably not always aware that a lapping car has caught them. Was tempted a few times last night to give a quick indication that i wanted to pass, especially in the final laps when its usually crucial to not lose any time to the guy in front or behind, racing for position, but didnt want to seem 'arsey' by flashing, if its not in our 'sporting conduct' to do so.

Negotiating traffic is all part of the fun or trials of racing but i would have been mighty peeved if my last lap spin avoiding contact with a backmarker had cost me several places, fortunately i had a big gap to the car behind. (Again would like to state that it was a totally innocent move on the backmarkers behalf)

Can you clarify please?
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« Reply #47 on: September 01, 2006, 11:30:23 AM +0100 »

To Dave:- i checked the rules again but couldnt find the answer, if we are lapping cars are we allowed to flash the headlights (once) to make them aware we are lapping them or is it only the car in 1st place allowed to do that?

The rules just say "Drivers may flash their headlights (either on-off during the day or off-on during the night) to warn other drivers of their presence. However, a driver being flashed shall not be obligated to let them pass." Your use would certainly fall within those bounds; I tend to put my lights on when I'm a few seconds behind a car I'm about to lap and then turn them off as I pass, usually followed by a "thank you" flash.

The only real restriction is that a class leader is the only car allowed to run with headlights permanently on.
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« Reply #48 on: September 01, 2006, 12:03:10 PM +0100 »

thanks Dave, didnt want to pee on anyone's chips  Wink Grin
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« Reply #49 on: September 01, 2006, 02:10:12 PM +0100 »

I loved this race, the entire race i tried to focus very hard it was a complete hell trying to keep as fast as possible during 36 laps, the fight with Ruskus and Radius was very nice, i almost hit Ruskus car in T1, i had a lot of  fun, and im happy Leh and PR got 1st and 3rd.

For once i had no bad luck
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« Reply #50 on: September 01, 2006, 04:03:33 PM +0100 »

To Dave:- i checked the rules again but couldnt find the answer, if we are lapping cars are we allowed to flash the headlights (once) to make them aware we are lapping them or is it only the car in 1st place allowed to do that?

The rules just say "Drivers may flash their headlights (either on-off during the day or off-on during the night) to warn other drivers of their presence. However, a driver being flashed shall not be obligated to let them pass." Your use would certainly fall within those bounds; I tend to put my lights on when I'm a few seconds behind a car I'm about to lap and then turn them off as I pass, usually followed by a "thank you" flash.

The only real restriction is that a class leader is the only car allowed to run with headlights permanently on.

From someone who gets lapped a lot - it very hard to tell who is coming up behind you, in both races I've done here now I think I cost the leaders time as I did not know they where lapping me. Flashing the headlights (ala FIA GT/LMS/ALMS style) makes it easyier to tell. If I am flashed I will move out of the way.

Just my 2 pennies worth.
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« Reply #51 on: September 01, 2006, 06:53:32 PM +0100 »

I had a good race. I'm happy to score my first pole, and my first win in an euqal car. Race was semi-exciting, after I got two warnings already in the first 2 or 3 laps, because I came wide on the grass, once after the first chicane and once on the start/finish straight, I concentrated a lot to not make another mistake. I had some bad luck while overlapping at some point, which allowed Pero to overtake me. Pero had similar bad luck a few laps later, and I could get back in front again. A few laps later Pero made a mistake and spun, so I could go easier, and drive home my first real win.

After I crossed the finishing line, I saw some shocking scenes, which before I only saw in movies like "2001: A Space Odyssey" or "Terminator 3: Rebellion of the Machines", when computers take over control and try to kill human beings. After I crossed the line and the AI took control over my car, it immediately pulled left and rammed out Mikey Coop, who was a few meters ahead of me, and thus still in race. He spun, hit the rails a few times and came to stop in the grass. When he tried to get back on the track, the AI controlled car of Bill hit him at full speed, and smashed him against the rails once more. Heavily damaged he tried to get on the tarmac a last time, only to be finished off be Picnic's AI controlled car, which rammed him at full speed another time. It seems Mikey Coop fell back from 10th to 12th position because of the AI which ganged up on him. I never imagined something like this could happen.

I think I remember having read somewhere, that there is an option in the config file, to disable AI taking control over your car after finishing. If someone knows the name of that setting, please tell. Maybe it would make sense to require this being set for everyone, to avoid issues like this (and AI taking over world supremacy in general).
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« Reply #52 on: September 01, 2006, 07:39:20 PM +0100 »

I think I remember having read somewhere, that there is an option in the config file, to disable AI taking control over your car after finishing. If someone knows the name of that setting, please tell. Maybe it would make sense to require this being set for everyone, to avoid issues like this (and AI taking over world supremacy in general).

Set NO AI Control="1" in the Driving Aids section of the .PLR file. It has the added advantage that you can then pull over after the end and do doughnuts. Wink Grin angel
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« Reply #53 on: September 01, 2006, 08:21:44 PM +0100 »

Ah good, thanks. I will try that.

If only the guys of "2001: A Space Odyssey" had had a NO AI Control="1" setting, too ...
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« Reply #54 on: September 01, 2006, 11:16:45 PM +0100 »

Well that explains something for me.I didn't believe what I was seeing.

I know most of the guys who race here and when I watched the replay and saw LeH smash into me I thought something must be wrong.

Might be a good idea to do that config thing.

Anyway no harm and I've learnt something


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« Reply #55 on: September 02, 2006, 09:28:47 AM +0100 »

Is there a dedicated server log and replay of this race please, I kinda need it if I want to make a video.
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« Reply #56 on: September 02, 2006, 11:50:05 AM +0100 »

Is there a dedicated server log and replay of this race please, I kinda need it if I want to make a video.

Go to the SRou homepage and click the "UKGTL Replays" link on the left.
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« Reply #57 on: September 02, 2006, 06:52:27 PM +0100 »

Unofficial Lapchart

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« Reply #58 on: September 02, 2006, 08:27:52 PM +0100 »

Edit: Not working, dunno why Sad

The Team Shark website is having a hissy fit.
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« Reply #59 on: September 03, 2006, 05:55:28 PM +0100 »

The Team Shark website is having a hissy fit.

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