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  • Elise Cup @ Oschesleben: September 05, 2006
September 05, 2006, 09:19:52 PM +0100 - Oschersleben (GP) - UKGTR GTR1 Sprint Elise Cup
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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JonM_uk
 Ze Penguin Brotherhood
Lotus Elise G3 1 1:39.808
81.999mph
1 40:33.090
80.729mph
24 1:40.294
81.602mph
Dunlop  
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
Lotus Elise G3 3 +0.479
81.608mph
2 +31.353
79.702mph
24 1:40.596
81.357mph
Dunlop  
Dan Minton
 Team RVS
Lotus Elise G3 4 +1.372
80.887mph
3 +1:11.885
78.412mph
24 1:42.314
79.991mph
Dunlop  
greg130
 28CD Motorsports
Lotus Elise G3 7 +2.581
79.932mph
4 +1:17.797
78.228mph
24 1:42.660
79.721mph
Dunlop  
Pedro[PL]
 Team Shark
Lotus Elise G3 5 +1.376
80.884mph
5 +1:27.702
77.920mph
24 1:42.176
80.099mph
Dunlop  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Lotus Elise G3 6 +2.562
79.947mph
6 +1L
77.104mph
23 1:43.069
79.405mph
Dunlop  
BigG
 RS Motorsport
Lotus Elise G3 8 +2.642
79.885mph
7 +9.672
76.799mph
23 1:42.628
79.746mph
Dunlop  
mclaessen
 28CD Motorsports
Lotus Elise G3 12 +4.766
78.262mph
8 +57.079
75.342mph
23 1:44.083
78.631mph
Dunlop  
FlyBri
 28CD Motorsports
Lotus Elise G3 17 +6.980
76.640mph
9 (+2) +2L
73.520mph
22 1:45.119
77.856mph
Dunlop  
Jamera
 28CD Motorsports
Lotus Elise G3 10 +4.093
78.769mph
10 +0.709
73.499mph
22 1:44.489
78.326mph
Dunlop  
silver53
 Ze Penguin Brotherhood
Lotus Elise G3 15 +5.411
77.782mph
11 +14.942
73.074mph
22 1:45.936
77.256mph
Dunlop  
[RSms]Andy
 RS Motorsport
Lotus Elise G3 9 +3.929
78.894mph
12 +4L 20 1:44.712
78.159mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Carl Hart
 Racin24-7
Lotus Elise G3 11 +4.291
78.619mph
13 +10L 14 1:44.795
78.097mph
unknown
Dunlop  
lincescom
 
Lotus Elise G3 16 +6.548
76.951mph
14 +11L 13 1:46.182
77.077mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Edza
 Kerb Crawlers
Lotus Elise G3 13 +4.821
78.221mph
15 +13L 11 1:46.152
77.099mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Adam Parle
 BCP Racing
Lotus Elise G3 14 +4.985
78.099mph
16 +14L 10 1:45.130
77.848mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Matjaz Plotajs
 dE Racing
Lotus Elise G3 2 +0.191
81.843mph
17 +18L 6 1:39.968
81.868mph
unknown
Dunlop  
D_Nichols
 Racing for Yorkshire
Lotus Elise G3 18 +7.021
76.610mph
18 +19L 5 1:47.434
76.179mph
unknown
Dunlop  

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Server replay time: 79s

Maurice spins in the Hasseroder hairpin and slides to the inside and then back across the track. Adam Parle has to back off to avoid him and Edza does likewise to avoid running into Adam. FlyBri tries to capitalise by overtaking Edza but instead makes contact as the latter heads for the apex, spinning Edza off and himself pushing Pablo off on the outside.

This was borderline overtaking under yellow; FlyBri does not appear to make any effort to slow down or drive cautiously despite having a good view of Maurice spinning, and Edza had his hands full avoiding both Adam and Maurice, with little or no chance to see Edza suddenly diving into his blind spot. Had it not been on lap 1, or had it just been Edza versus FlyBri, there might have been a reasonable expectation that the former would see the latter and leave room, but under these circumstances FlyBri should've exercised more restraint.

  • FlyBripenalty — lack of care approaching an incident; contact with Edza — 2 places lost

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« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2006, 08:34:31 PM +0100 »

Why is everyone posting dry times when its raining ?  Tongue

Whats a decent wet lap time around here? Have managed 1:43's so far in limited test, but guessing 1:42's are more the time to aim for? (1:41 if your alien Roll Eyes )
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« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2006, 08:46:10 PM +0100 »

Just on the server trying it out Grin
Did a 1-40-0 with soft fronts and hard rears but I just don't know if soft fronts will last the race. Did a 1-41-4 with hards on front. Are the soft wets just for monsoon weather? And has the lighter Elise got any chance of lasting 40mins with them on?
My wet racing history tells me to go for the hards but I'm undecided Undecided
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« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2006, 10:00:20 PM +0100 »

I did some testing with the softs myself this evening - they where getting very hot in the corners. I had to drive off line to and cool them.

I know the Elise is kind on its tyres, but I doubt they'd last. Particually if you spin them a few times.
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« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2006, 10:12:24 PM +0100 »

Will the track be wet, but the weather dry (drying track) or will it keep raining the whole race?
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« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2006, 11:02:15 PM +0100 »

Will the track be wet, but the weather dry (drying track) or will it keep raining the whole race?

I believe it will keep raining for the whole race.
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« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2006, 08:54:43 AM +0100 »

Only ran a few laps last night, getting to the low 1:44's.  Need to tweak the setup though, as it's on a dry setup that I've been using for the last 2 races (albeit with wets on), and then I'm hoping to get down into the 1:42's or somewhere close to it.

Should be an interesting race.
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« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2006, 09:19:21 AM +0100 »

Will the track be wet, but the weather dry (drying track) or will it keep raining the whole race?

You have to wait for GTR 2 to get that feature I'm afraid.  Tongue
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« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2006, 10:12:19 AM +0100 »


You have to wait for GTR 2 to get that feature I'm afraid.  Tongue


It's in GTR as well, but with less eyecandy. I once drove a race at Barcelona where the track was wet, but the weather was dry, so I started on intermediates. As the race went on, the track started to dry, and my inters were getting too hot. I had to leave the racing line at the straight to cool them down again. So eventhough it's not very graphics in GTR, the feature is there.
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« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2006, 11:22:21 AM +0100 »

It's in GTR as well, but with less eyecandy. I once drove a race at Barcelona where the track was wet, but the weather was dry, so I started on intermediates. As the race went on, the track started to dry, and my inters were getting too hot. I had to leave the racing line at the straight to cool them down again. So eventhough it's not very graphics in GTR, the feature is there.

Not in the multiplayer it isn't. You can only do that offline.

The "changeable" setting was removed from the dedicated server I think in patch v1.4 (might have been earlier), thanks Simbin!
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« Reply #24 on: September 05, 2006, 11:23:11 AM +0100 »

The "changeable" setting was removed from the dedicated server I think in patch v1.4 (might have been earlier), thanks Simbin!

It didn't work properly anyway, did it. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #25 on: September 05, 2006, 11:45:20 AM +0100 »

Than I wonder why I had just such a race I just described in a public server Huh
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« Reply #26 on: September 05, 2006, 12:42:39 PM +0100 »

Than I wonder why I had just such a race I just described in a public server Huh

Because that was using the 1.5 dedi server, which is actually from an older version of GTR.

Even when it's available, the changeable option causes problems because of extreme changes between the end of the warmup and the start of the race. The only way round it is with a reconaissance lap but that would extend the event time by another 10-15 minutes and require a .PLR file hack.
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« Reply #27 on: September 05, 2006, 01:41:57 PM +0100 »

It didn't work properly anyway, did it. Roll Eyes

No, I believe changeable was ok. It is the random setting that produces extreme weather and different between sessions.

The problem with changeable when it was in the server originally was that the change between conditions would often cause slow down and jerkiness whilst it changed conditions. Was a long time ago we used it, so my memory is a bit foggy.

We can but hope that GTR 2 is better.  Undecided
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« Reply #28 on: September 05, 2006, 06:31:08 PM +0100 »

1:40.3 with 4 soft tyres... no problems with overheating them at all.
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« Reply #29 on: September 05, 2006, 09:40:47 PM +0100 »

I had a small spin at 50 km/h  Huh... can't wait for GTR2, judging by the demo they managed to fix this ridiculous low grip at low speeds. After that something happened to my tyres, puncture I guess so I just pressed ESC because there I was in the middle of the track with no control over my car and another pack of cars were approaching. Shame cos I had a nice drive behind Jon.  Undecided
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