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  • Elise Cup @ Enna: September 12, 2006
September 12, 2006, 09:19:43 PM +0100 - Enna - UKGTR GTR1 Sprint Elise Cup
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 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Matjaz Plotajs
 dE Racing
Lotus Elise G3 2 +0.681
104.107mph
1 40:07.326
101.534mph
22 1:47.884
102.983mph
Dunlop  
JonM_uk
 Ze Penguin Brotherhood
Lotus Elise G3 1 1:46.039
104.775mph
2 +6.378
101.266mph
22 1:47.126
103.712mph
Dunlop  
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
Lotus Elise G3 3 +1.007
103.790mph
3 +12.214
101.022mph
22 1:47.884
102.983mph
Dunlop  
BigG
 RS Motorsport
Lotus Elise G3 6 +2.532
102.332mph
4 +1:25.504
98.051mph
22 1:50.232
100.790mph
Dunlop  
greg130
 28CD Motorsports
Lotus Elise G3 4 +1.966
102.868mph
5 +1:39.857
97.490mph
22 1:49.997
101.005mph
Dunlop  
Carl Hart
 Racin24-7
Lotus Elise G3 5 +2.522
102.341mph
6 +1L
96.410mph
21 1:50.075
100.933mph
Dunlop  
Chunky
 
Lotus Elise G3 10 +4.027
100.942mph
7 +19.138
95.654mph
21 1:52.212
99.011mph
Dunlop  
Truetom
 Ze Penguin Brotherhood
Lotus Elise G3 9 +3.564
101.368mph
8 +42.674
94.739mph
21 1:51.726
99.442mph
Dunlop  
lincescom
 Sonic Racing Team
Lotus Elise G3 13 +5.624
99.498mph
9 +1:09.706
93.711mph
21 1:54.787
96.790mph
Dunlop  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Lotus Elise G3 11 +4.158
100.822mph
10 21 1:49.815
101.172mph
suspension
Dunlop  
silver53
 Ze Penguin Brotherhood
Lotus Elise G3 15 +6.590
98.645mph
11 +2L
89.716mph
20 1:52.863
98.440mph
Dunlop  
Dan Minton
 Team RVS
Lotus Elise G3 7 +3.175
101.729mph
12 +18.570
89.049mph
20 1:51.880
99.305mph
Dunlop  
Edza
 Kerb Crawlers
Lotus Elise G3 17 +13.281
93.113mph
13 +3L
86.887mph
19 1:57.453
94.593mph
Dunlop  
Jamera
 28CD Motorsports
Lotus Elise G3 14 +5.786
99.354mph
14 +11L 11 1:52.674
98.605mph
suspension
Dunlop  
Pedro[PL]
 Team Shark
Lotus Elise G3 12 +5.554
99.560mph
15 +13L 9 1:52.574
98.693mph
unknown
Dunlop  
mclaessen
 28CD Motorsports
Lotus Elise G3 8 +3.484
101.442mph
16 +18L 4 1:54.626
96.926mph
accident
Dunlop  
D_Nichols
 Racing for Yorkshire
Lotus Elise G3 16 +6.690
98.557mph
17 +19L 3 1:53.701
97.715mph
suspension
Dunlop  
[RSms]Andy
 RS Motorsport
Lotus Elise G3 +22L 0 ---
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DQ
Dunlop  

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Server replay time: 65s

Pedro looks to the inside of Chunky going into turn 3 and is virtually level when Chunky turns in on him and there is contact. Both drop to the tail of the field before they can rejoin. It was lap 1, and Chunky really should've been aware that Pedro was, or at least could be, alongside, and left room.

Chunky then squeezes Pedro as they go into turn 4; the latter then brakes a bit too late and spins off.

  • Chunkypenalty — contact with Pedro — 3 places lost
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 2400s

It's the last lap and Mark Jonzo is about a second behind BigG in 4th place. BigG catches Dan Minton, who is down in 12th and not in a fight with anyone, as they approach turn 1.

Dan should probably have allowed BigG past between T2 and T3 but Gerald is busy spinning off in T3 and BigG very sensibly makes no attempt to pass. This allows Mark Jonzo to catch right up with BigG, who has to be patient as there isn't really much track between T3 and Piscene to allow another driver past.

Dan actually pulls away a little out of Piscene and Mark gets a strong run behind BigG, drafting up and alongside. He flashes his lights at Dan but Dan is still half a dozen car lengths ahead, and has nowhere to go except to block BigG on the right. BigG backs out and yields the line to Mark, but the latter gets his line wrong into Proserpini and hits the tyres on the right, launching himself into the air and collecting BigG in the process.

Dan in the meantime has hit the left hand tyres and also spun off.

Mark retires on the spot.

Whilst Dan did not deliberately block BigG early in this sequence of events, there was no good reason for him not to move over out of turn 2 and make it easy for BigG at the least to pass him. We advise drivers being lapped not to change lines on a straight, but this does not give you carte blanche to stick rigidly to the racing line, particularly when being lapped by a car of the same class which does not have the horsepower to simply blast by on the straight. Dan probably should have stayed or moved right coming out of T2 and allowed BigG past.

Now, given the size of the gap behind Dan as they exiting Piscene, it was not reasonable to expect him to then back off and allow BigG (and Mark) past. By the time Mark got alongside BigG there was no longer any simple, safe course of action open to Dan which would have allowed both BigG and Mark past. The fact that Mark crashed was entirely down to his own mistake.

  • Dan Mintonwarning — unduly holding up BigG whilst being lapped
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded

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« on: September 03, 2006, 05:31:53 PM +0100 »

Date: Tuesday 12th Sept
Track: Enna Pergusa

Practice 1: 20:30 (25 mins)
Practice 2: none
Qual 2: 20:55 (18 mins)
Warmup: 21:13 (2 mins)
Race: 21:15 (40 mins)

Cars allowed: Lotus Elise only - see this thread for car pack and team choices - note the new GTR 1.4 compatability patch!
Weather: Dry
Start: Standing

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« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2006, 08:36:09 AM +0100 »

Cool, Enna Cool Can we take the chicanes flat with the Elise?

How many people will make the finish without hitting the concrete walls / tyre barriers?

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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2006, 09:03:27 AM +0100 »

I'd like to know if anyone manages 5th gear!  Grin
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« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2006, 09:30:18 AM +0100 »

I'd like to know if anyone manages 5th gear!  Grin

Woat? It has 5 gears??? Huh
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« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2006, 09:35:13 AM +0100 »

Heh, I use 2, 3, 4 only.  Grin

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« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2006, 11:48:58 AM +0100 »

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Heh, I use 2, 3, 4 only.  ;DTT

Hehe, is that brain cells TT ?  Wink Grin

Are you returning to the bosom of racing for this one then TT?  wheelchair

I'll be waiting for ya  ninja tank ..or perhaps my heavies need to pay another visit to your garage whistling

Elises at Enna should be like a go-kart race !  Shocked
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« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2006, 12:58:20 PM +0100 »

Cheers, MJ, I think I'll be able to be there, yes.  thumbup1

I have only two brain cells - one for throttle, the other (smaller) in for the brake.  Wink

As soon as one cell divides I kill the third (the oldest one now, mind you  Grin ) with a big glass of Greek Ouzo.  balloon burp

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« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2006, 09:46:22 PM +0100 »


I have only two brain cells - one for throttle, the other (smaller) in for the brake.  Wink


Thank God I have an extra braincell for steering. How do you streer, like a tank, left and right? Tongue
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« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2006, 10:01:35 PM +0100 »

Just close my eyes...  Grin

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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2006, 08:45:45 AM +0100 »

This should be a good one, Enna and the Elise are made for each other, as Jonzo said, it's going to be more like karting.  Hopefully I'll  manage a full race after getting disco'd on the last on  :'(.
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« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2006, 08:58:43 PM +0100 »

Noticed the server is at enna but its still set to rain. Huh
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« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2006, 09:08:53 PM +0100 »

Noticed the server is at enna but its still set to rain. Huh

The sun has got his hat on, hip hip hip, hooray!  whistling
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« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2006, 09:37:27 PM +0100 »

Brilliant track, taking that first chicane into 4th gear....heartpumping Grin And the first track on which I've used 5th gear or the Elise thumbup2
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« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2006, 10:47:30 PM +0100 »

It's just so hairy around here. To go fast I'm teetering on the edge of death, which is what I predict will happen to me in the race Wink
That first chicane...Have I got it right....Have I got it right...Oh shiiii.....Ahhh just made it Grin
Used Matjaz's Silverstone setup, It seems very quick here too but I guess the order of the day is just to finish.
So I ask you. Is it better to burn out than to fade away?
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« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2006, 11:14:49 PM +0100 »

It's just so hairy around here. To go fast I'm teetering on the edge of death, which is what I predict will happen to me in the race Wink
That first chicane...Have I got it right....Have I got it right...Oh shiiii.....Ahhh just made it Grin
Used Matjaz's Silverstone setup, It seems very quick here too but I guess the order of the day is just to finish.
So I ask you. Is it better to burn out than to fade away?

A burnout, no doubt Wink
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