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  • S37 Spa: June 21, 2020
June 21, 2020, 10:06:24 PM +0100 - Spa (GPL) - UKGPL Season 37 (2020)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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MagicArsouille
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 4 +4.001
155.656mph
1 1:31:46.641
154.663mph
27 3:17.795
159.476mph
Firestone  
AndyL
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 3 +3.416
156.107mph
2 +42.325
153.484mph
27 3:23.116
155.298mph
Firestone  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 5 +5.449
154.552mph
3 +1:50.566
151.619mph
27 3:23.363
155.110mph
Goodyear  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 11 +17.443
145.974mph
4 +3:20.092
149.241mph
27 3:23.168
155.259mph
Firestone  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 10 +12.363
149.488mph
5 +1L
148.748mph
26 3:26.009
153.117mph
Firestone  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 2 +2.061
157.161mph
6 +11L
154.993mph
16 3:20.004
157.715mph
Disco
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 8 +7.983
152.657mph
7 +14L
152.114mph
13 3:23.679
154.869mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 9 +11.556
150.062mph
8 +17L
149.367mph
10 3:27.653
151.905mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Baab
 Team Baarf
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 12 +17.784
145.744mph
9 +24L
141.670mph
3 3:34.983
146.726mph
Disco
Firestone  
Raoni Frizzo
 Team Coyote
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 1 3:18.648
158.791mph
10 +25L
154.013mph
2 3:22.445
155.813mph
Disco
Firestone  
AnGex
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 6 +5.589
154.446mph
11 +32.007
142.851mph
2 3:34.290
147.200mph
Disco
Goodyear  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 7 +6.398
153.837mph
12 +32.358
142.737mph
2 3:39.278
143.852mph
Disco
Firestone  
60fps UKGPL 8
 
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Goodyear  

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« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2020, 09:43:29 PM +0100 »

Shunted off for good at the Masta Kink on Lap10 with a couple of violent offs in the Malmedy chicane prior to.  Enough already!

A good experience that taught me there's no way I'll sign on for the full GP67 races.  It's the Sprint Series for me.
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« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2020, 10:47:45 PM +0100 »

I quite enjoyed that, I did better than I expected but I'm glad it was the old Spa; I'd never have survived the new one. I missed the start and had to start from the pit lane. So I did complete the full race distance, can someone amend the results please.

Grats to Tris on a fine win. Great to see Andy back on the podium and Billy in third spot. Well done Mr Nobrakes!
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« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2020, 10:54:57 PM +0100 »

I will miss you Doni  Roll Eyes

My race was ended with 11 lap to go, by a broken exhaust, what must have been a random failure as I had pampered the engine to keep it alive.

A fuel stop was not successfull as it lasted 30 sec for 80l=20gal and I only had made 15 sec to Tris, so after the stop I was not able to close the gap...

Anyway a good experience on this old outdated track wich I had loved

Grats to Tris and all finishers  thumbup2
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« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2020, 12:25:39 AM +0100 »

So long time that I run this track , I have to do 3-4 laps to remember it !....and to do a setup , who was not so good specialy the temp tires ( front left was full red sometimes and back wheels too cold ! )I put full tank and try no fuel stop as I know that the full race don't see so many racers in the end...so I decide to drive as cool as possible and don't go over 10.000 rpm to preserve fuel...When I see Axel stop to refuel I push for 2-3 laps to keep the gap ...then Axel desepeer on prib so I do 2 laps very slow ( lost maybe 45s !? ) because Andy was 4.5 km behind in seconde position...when he was  at around 1km behind I drive normaly to keep the gap....belive it , I finish whith 10 liters fuel !
Thx all and have a nice season Wink
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« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2020, 12:57:31 AM +0100 »

I actually prefer the Papyrus Spa to the new Spa 67. It doesn't look as pretty but I make less mistakes.
Perhaps I should have gone with a full tank of gas instead of a 2 x stop strategy?
27 laps is a long race, but it seem to go very quickly. Before my first fuel stop I was able to keep fairly close to Andy (good to see an old competitor back on the track). During the second stint I had Phil's Lotus for company but after he pitted it was an empty road. Pleased to finish on the podium.
I am tempted to race the 90 GP series, but most of the drivers I can compete with will be in the Sprint Series.

We'll have another one of these GP length tests before Season 37 starts so drivers can practice the format. Next time there will be at least one compulsory fuel stop & a shorter track.
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« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2020, 06:14:21 AM +0100 »

Sorry for my stupid error in the first lap, Billy.  Sad
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« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2020, 10:48:08 AM +0100 »

A long time since I raced Spa 67 and even longer since I raced the Lotus 49 . The prospect of 27 laps with no respite made this track perfect as we could at least take a breather going  down the long  Masta straight .
Got off to a reasonable start after a good qually run and got through the lap1 in 7th place after being drafted by Doni's V12 power down the straight . then the pack catch up after I make an error dive up the banking , recover but get shunted by B Whitewell going into La Source  ( why the need to be so agressive on Lap 2 of 27 laps with no re set ?) allowing half the field to get by .
 Lap 3 and chasing a Brabham ( turns out to be Phil doing a cloaking job ) and the Telephone rings , some mate from the flying club wants to talk , I'm carefully explaining to the wife why I cant get to the phone at this moment in time as I am rather busy trying to negotiate my way through a rather tricky part of the track , in a twitchy Lotus, full of Gas . The distraction gets me to run wide and make friends with the armco tearing a wheel off . So much for Plan A "taking things easy and pottering around at the back of the field "
Enjoyed the (almost) 3 laps , pity there were not more
Grats to the Podium and all who completed the distance  Smiley
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« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2020, 11:42:48 AM +0100 »

Good old Spa with wide and empty spaces tempts me to try GPL again.
My fps stuck at 30 at the start and didn't clear to 60 until lap6. I have had that before, but it has cleared in a few seconds. With full fuel too, I was struggling not to make an error early on. Doni and then Billy were not far behind for a while and I kept Clive in sight ahead until he got interested in another part of Belgium around half way. I saw no one after that.
Suddenly the gap to Tris dropped quickly. I could see he wasn't at the pits for refuelling, but he was moving slowly. Smoky engine? He wants some company? Then he kept my pace and quickened again. It kept me interested. Grats to all finishers in keeping concentration.
I had 6 gallons (23 litres) left at the end. Perhaps I could have done 31 laps on the one tank. I think stopping for fuel was a much slower option here. A short track GP length race with compusory fuel stop would be more difficult.
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« Reply #23 on: June 22, 2020, 12:38:29 PM +0100 »

 Grats to Tris and all finishers. Good to see my mate Andy up there with the champagne along with Billy and Phil. Plus a shout out to Dave who brought the mighty Honda home with all 12 cylinders still firing  Wink.
 I think that there are lessons to learn for all of us in these long 90 minute races, but old habits die hard when we have been used to running 50 minute races for 20 years!! lol.

I was looking forward to the challenge of a longer race and was hoping that my recovery from surgery was good enough to allow me to complete the distance. I had done a little offline practice before and joined the server on Sunday afternoon just to check the connection was OK. Normally I would take the Honda, but I decided to try and find a car that was not so much of a physical challenge and tried the Brabham.
Gradually changed the setup to iron out any snap over/understeers especially through Malmedy...that corner always causes me problems  Undecided and arrived at the start with a car that was comfortable to drive on full tanks, even if it was not uber quick. Probably with a more aggressive setup I could have been lapping around 3:20, but with the softer and raised suspension I was 2-3 secs off that time.
Just like Bernie the plan was to feel my way in steadily and play the long game. My gearing was such that even with a tow down the Masta straight I was not approaching the red line. Unlike shorter races, I was taking corners in one gear higher than usual and relying on the Brabham's torque to pull me through. I had not done any proper fuel calculations and was being ultra cautious about consumption.
I think I jumped Bernie at the start into Eau Rouge? ( not part of any plan!!) and was following the pack up the hill. Things ahead looked just a little crowded as we approached the left hander, so I backed off early  and created a gap. It turned out to be a good move when I think it was Andreas and Billy tangled and I had time to pick a route through the wreckage.
Andy was in front of me and slowly I closed the gap until he allowed me to pass, part of his long term race plan I suspect?? But then he insisted on holding a position about 150 mtrs behind for many laps until, I just touched a back wheel onto the grass and tried to use the earth banking. That allowed Andy to re pass and I set off in pursuit.
Once again, not pushing particularly hard as there was still half the race to run. Slowly I was closing the gap, I was quicker in some places and Andy was faster in others but there was no rush to go wheel to wheel.
Then for no apparent reason the engine popped and it was race over  Undecided. My oil temp had never got as high as 170F and the revs did not get within 500 of max anywhere.
I am guessing that in the GP length races the full random car failure part of GPL comes into effect? I remember reading somewhere ( probably in the booklet that accompanied the original game disk ) that mechanical failures were very common in 1967 and that GPL modelled that.

Disappointed that many of us did not finish the distance, but still looking forward to the new series and the tactical use of pitstops ( or not) at the various circuits.

PS. Interesting that Andy had the 30fps issue, because I have been experiencing exactly the same problem for around 3 months now. It looks like I have forgotten to apply the 60fps patch correctly and the frame rate is locked at a max of 30fps ( exactly 50% of the expected 60fps??) and sometimes dropping to 12-15fps, so I often go back to GEM and check and then join via IP, instead of IGOR, which sometimes appears to sort the problem....but it makes no sense and might just be coincidence.
Then after maybe 10 minutes the fps magically increases to 60?? It has nothing to do with how many cars are in view, or the details of the scenery, or which mod we are running. Does anyone have any info on this subject??


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« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2020, 12:57:39 PM +0100 »

The 30fps is VSYNC working and GPU sleeping!

Max the nvidia settings to higest values with your overkill GPU!

We can have a TS session if you want to check the basics...
First get openhardwaremonitor and look at the plot how the clocks behave! must be maxed as long as you drive CPU + GPU

Re GP mode

yes me too  Embarrassed I was driving in save mode all the time and got the message exhaust broken...

In RL the Braby was the most reliable and the Eagle the most fragile!
But I learned that the Eagle can survive my shifting better than a Ferrari...

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I suspect that in GP the guys with shifter have less problems!?
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« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2020, 02:00:59 PM +0100 »

The 30fps thing - in GTL I can ALT + TAB out of the game screen to set affinity and enable all CPU cores, which improves my fps. I can't ALT + TAB out of GPL. There are programs to enable all cores such as Process Lasso and Runaff, but I see people have other problems with them, so I am afraid to try them. Axel, is there a safe way? The 30fps thing is rare for me, so maybe I can live with it.
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« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2020, 02:34:35 PM +0100 »

GTL is a "modern" game - you can set the AA in game.

GPL can't - so you have to make a profile in your NV or AMD settings and set AA manually to high values.

Wich CPU + GPU do you have? AMD or NVidia?

Make shure in GEM+ settings if intel CPU "disable intel speed step" is activated

Don't use 3rd party programs!!!

Make also the energy settings in W7 or W10 to high performance so the cpu won't fall asleep

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« Reply #27 on: June 22, 2020, 03:52:57 PM +0100 »

Sorry for my stupid error in the first lap, Billy.  Sad

No problem Andreas. I think quite a few drivers were driving carefully on the opening lap & I might have backed off a little earlier than you were expecting. 90 minutes is a long time to wonder if (a) I would lose the car somewhere or (b) the engine would hold together. Fortunately both did.
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« Reply #28 on: June 22, 2020, 04:31:39 PM +0100 »

Don't use 3rd party programs!!!

Thanks for the advice, Axel. I will stay away from 3rd parties.
My setup, profiles and hardware (Intel i5, Nvidia 560Ti) haven't changed for 10 years and I'm happy with how they are optimised.
I will look again if the 30 fps problem reappears.
A new pc may come soon anyway.
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« Reply #29 on: June 22, 2020, 05:03:52 PM +0100 »

Andy do you use a NVidia profile for gplc67.exe?
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