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September 19, 2006, 09:19:57 PM +0100 - Estoril (GP (2000 onwards)) - UKGTR GTR1 Sprint Elise Cup
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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JonM_uk
 Ze Penguin Brotherhood
Lotus Elise G3 1 1:48.212
85.749mph
1 40:08.711
84.751mph
22 1:48.124
85.819mph
Dunlop  
Pedro[PL]
 Team Shark
Lotus Elise G3 2 +0.224
85.572mph
2 +14.886
84.230mph
22 1:48.101
85.837mph
Dunlop  
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
Lotus Elise G3 4 +0.755
85.155mph
3 +31.017
83.673mph
22 1:49.500
84.740mph
Dunlop  
BigG
 RS Motorsport
Lotus Elise G3 3 +0.300
85.512mph
4 +53.042
82.924mph
22 1:49.394
84.822mph
Dunlop  
Dan Minton
 Team RVS
Lotus Elise G3 5 +1.727
84.402mph
5 +57.704
82.768mph
22 1:50.609
83.891mph
Dunlop  
RS
 RS Motorsport
Lotus Elise G3 8 +2.453
83.848mph
6 +1:17.226
82.118mph
22 1:49.896
84.435mph
Dunlop  
greg130
 28CD Motorsports
Lotus Elise G3 11 +3.302
83.210mph
7 +1:54.583
80.902mph
22 1:51.361
83.324mph
Dunlop  
Truetom
 Ze Penguin Brotherhood
Lotus Elise G3 6 +1.856
84.303mph
8 +1L
80.269mph
21 1:51.388
83.304mph
Dunlop  
Carl Hart
 Racin24-7
Lotus Elise G3 9 +2.771
83.608mph
9 +14.167
79.803mph
21 1:52.285
82.639mph
Dunlop  
Jamera
 28CD Motorsports
Lotus Elise G3 16 +6.841
80.650mph
10 +27.742
79.362mph
21 1:52.887
82.198mph
Dunlop  
Rob Clenshaw
 
Lotus Elise G3 13 +3.673
82.934mph
11 +1:00.805
78.308mph
21 1:52.098
82.776mph
Dunlop  
Rob Bywater "Kerb Crawlers"
 Kerb Crawlers
Lotus Elise G3 15 +4.794
82.111mph
12 +2L
76.523mph
20 1:53.496
81.757mph
Dunlop  
will16v
 28CD Motorsports
Lotus Elise G3 17 +8.065
79.801mph
13 +3L
70.150mph
19 1:54.562
80.996mph
Dunlop  
mo
 Kerb Crawlers
Lotus Elise G3 12 +3.400
83.137mph
14 +5L 17 1:51.271
83.392mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Chunky
 
Lotus Elise G3 10 +2.835
83.560mph
15 +8L 14 1:51.807
82.992mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Edza
 Kerb Crawlers
Lotus Elise G3 18 +18.434
73.268mph
16 14 1:55.699
80.200mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Grinsomat
 RS Motorsport
Lotus Elise G3 14 +4.064
82.645mph
17 +11L 11 1:51.952
82.884mph
unknown
Dunlop  
[RSms]Andy
 RS Motorsport
Lotus Elise G3 7 +2.342
83.932mph
18 +19L 3 1:50.876
83.689mph
unknown
Dunlop  
rawkey
 
Lotus Elise G3 19 +40.748
62.292mph
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 58s

Grinsomat, Greg and RS are all heading for the apex of turn 1 at the same time. Three into one does not go and RS, who is on the outside and brakes late but locks a wheel, is spun across the front of Greg, who cannot move any more to the inside to make room for RS.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 68s

Grinsomat is on the inside going into turn 2 and Mo taps his rear, sending him into a spin. Grinsomat was very slow in the corner but this should've been expected because he was a long way to the inside.

  • mopenalty — rear ending Grinsomat — 2 places lost
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 74s

Mo is slowed by an incident at the previous corner and Greg gets alongside on the run down to Lamy. Mo, having the outside line, brakes later, but Greg, in the middle of the track, cannot quite back out far enough to avoid contact as Mo turns in.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 199s

Dan Minton gets himself two-thirds alongside Greg in VIP. Greg tries to take the late apex but fails to account for Dan being there and is spun out.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 527s

Truetom passes Greg on the front straight, and locks his brakes to avoid running into Grinsomat in turn 1. Greg tries to take advantage by taking a fast line to the extreme inside of the turn but fails to take account of how slow TrueTom is and taps him into a spin.

  • greg130 (Greg130)warning — contact with TrueTom
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 535s

RS gets a good run out of turn 1 and is half alongside Greg as they reach turn 2. Greg goes for the apex and RS locks a wheel trying to back out of the move but cannot and touches Greg, causing the latter to run off the track.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 879s

Edza has locked up and run off at Orelha. He rejoins but drives straight onto the track and across the racing line, narrowly avoiding taking out Pedro from the lead.

  • Edza (edza)penalty — dangerous rejoin — 2 places lost
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 1025s

Grimsomat uses TrueTom's slipstream past and goes into Parabolica Interior ahead, but locks a wheel and runs slightly wide. TrueTom goes for the game but Grinsomat tries to pull back to the inside and there is contact, Grinsomat spinning off, losing a fistful of places in the process.

  • Racing incident

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« on: September 11, 2006, 02:33:29 PM +0100 »

Date: Tuesday 19th Sept
Track: Estoril

Practice 1: 20:30 (25 mins)
Practice 2: none
Qual 2: 20:55 (18 mins)
Warmup: 21:13 (2 mins)
Race: 21:15 (40 mins)

Cars allowed: Lotus Elise only - see this thread for car pack and team choices - note the new GTR 1.4 compatability patch!
Weather: Dry
Start: Standing

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« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2006, 07:20:53 PM +0100 »

Having decided to prepare for the final race (after totaly blowing Enna) I practiced some today. My current time is 1.48.399 with a slightly modified Simbin's "fast" setup.

Telemetry and setup provided here

Waiting for your feedback with tips how to shave 1-2 seconds off.
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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2006, 10:37:29 AM +0100 »

If you wander how "aliens" drive through Estoril take a look at Greger Huttu's flying lap in Viper GT.

video here

Thank to guys from my home league prs.simracing.pl for compiling this video and Gregger for submitting his replays and Motec data. If you are interested with other tracks, please visit the site and download your flavour Cheesy

http://prs.simracing.pl/index.php?ind=reviews&op=entry_view&iden=16
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2006, 03:22:39 PM +0100 »

I think the difference in driving in not as critical as it is that he's carrying high speed through the corners where others slow down (too much). Saw he drives some slow corners in 3rd while I do it in 2nd. Maybe that doesn't mean much 'cause you can change the gears and all, but anyway. The driving line seems much the same to me, maybe just that he turns in really rapidly, not allowing the front to slide any. But mostly I guess it just means driving siuts him better than it does us (me).  Wink

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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2006, 03:46:19 PM +0100 »

I think the difference in driving in not as critical as it is that he's carrying high speed through the corners where others slow down (too much). Saw he drives some slow corners in 3rd while I do it in 2nd. Maybe that doesn't mean much 'cause you can change the gears and all, but anyway. The driving line seems much the same to me, maybe just that he turns in really rapidly, not allowing the front to slide any. But mostly I guess it just means driving siuts him better than it does us (me).  Wink

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Huttu cheats the physics. He does lot's of throttle/braking at the same time, and his setups are extreme. Doing that in reallife will last nowhere. He is good, but in his own way. Lips Sealed
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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2006, 04:45:39 PM +0100 »

He's an alien - in his own way Cheesy

Btw. check my final qualification setup

A less skilled driver like myself is able to do 1.47.8xx so Ruskus, Jon and Matjaz will at least shave 2s off Cheesy

Setup gives a balanced and veeery forgiving car. It is designed to last in-lap and one flying lap.
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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2006, 05:02:10 PM +0100 »

He's an alien - in his own way Cheesy

Btw. check my final qualification setup

A less skilled driver like myself is able to do 1.47.8xx so Ruskus, Jon and Matjaz will at least shave 2s off Cheesy

Setup gives a balanced and veeery forgiving car. It is designed to last in-lap and one flying lap.

Great thanks! Will try the tomorrow before the race and report. It will be difficult to get back to GTR1 after driving GTR2 Grin
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« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2006, 05:41:26 PM +0100 »

I just drove a test 40min race with a setup based on the qualification one provided above and it was great. Med-med all the way allowed me to score some 1.48.1xx during the race and the car was just too easy to drive. Just a guess that you and Mat will judge the setup as too "gentle" Cheesy
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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2006, 06:14:04 PM +0100 »

Another alien 

Great setup Pedro. Though I can't reach your time, I expect to have a good race.

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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2006, 07:40:53 PM +0100 »

Yeh great time Pedro Shocked GTRank record for Elise stands at 1-47-4 so that's pretty fast mate. Got a feeling Matjaz will whip a 1-46 out and slap us all around with it for a while Cheesy Looking forward to the race as the Elise doesn't spin as much here as the GT cars so should be a corker Cool
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« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2006, 10:07:16 PM +0100 »

Good race guys - sorry if i got in the way, but i had a puncture mid way through the race, and way limping back to pits with the rev limiter on.
I think i owe an apology to Greg and some of the other frontrunners for getting in your way - sorry guys Undecided

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« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2006, 10:07:38 PM +0100 »

Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooring.

Jon and pedro were infront of me and driving away. and I was driving away from the guy behind, so I was all alone for 40 minutes.

Dumb track, stupid race.

End. Grin

Grats Jon on the win of the race and championship
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« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2006, 10:12:37 PM +0100 »

Dumb track, stupid race.

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I had quite a fun race early on - was up as high as sixth when my pedal cable decided to disconnect itself. Had a few good battles with lots of the dark blue cars. Made a couple of stupid mistakes which ensured I didn't finish any higher, but I had a lot of fun.
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« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2006, 10:14:05 PM +0100 »

I enjoyed the race. Not much passing between me and Pedro but the chase was great. I seemed to be about 0.1 quicker a lap and made a few minor mistakes which put me a few seconds down but then there was the chase Grin I ended up with 7 rear wing which seemed to help at the end of the race as the car just got better and better as it got lighter. Pedro seemed to struggle a little towards the end which was lucky for me cus I don't think I could've passed him had he not gone onto the grass. Anyway great race all.see ya'll at the next 'un Cool
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« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2006, 10:19:51 PM +0100 »

Replay and Provisional Results are up
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