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July 21, 2020, 11:13:40 PM +0100 - Mexico City (1962-1979) - UKGPL Season 37 (2020) Mixed Open Wheel
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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uli
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) (#1966) F1 1966 1 1:49.045
102.525mph
1 46:18.290
100.600mph
25 1:49.251
102.332mph
Goodyear  
MagicArsouille
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 246 (#1966) F1 1966 2 +1.049
101.548mph
2 +1.388
100.550mph
25 1:50.064
101.576mph
Firestone  
Alessandro Isacchini
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Lotus 33 (Climax 1966) (#1966) F1 1966 3 +1.898
100.771mph
3 +21.026
99.844mph
25 1:51.032
100.690mph
Firestone  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.5) (#1966) F1 1966 8 +3.633
99.219mph
4 +49.334
98.845mph
25 1:51.892
99.916mph
Goodyear  
Alain Maurice
 
Eagle T1F (Climax) (#1966) F1 1966 6 +2.814
99.946mph
5 +57.667
98.554mph
25 1:52.023
99.799mph
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) (#1966) F1 1966 4 +1.900
100.769mph
6 +1:07.513
98.213mph
25 1:50.753
100.944mph
Goodyear  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.5) (#1966) F1 1966 9 +3.736
99.129mph
7 +1:24.783
97.621mph
25 1:53.058
98.886mph
Goodyear  
AnGex
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 246 (#1966) F1 1966 11 +4.556
98.413mph
8 +1:25.643
97.592mph
25 1:52.948
98.982mph
Firestone  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) (#1966) F1 1966 10 +3.945
98.945mph
9 +1:32.144
97.371mph
25 1:52.240
99.607mph
Goodyear  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1966) (#1966) F1 1966 14 +5.472
97.626mph
10 +1:40.846
97.076mph
25 1:53.983
98.083mph
Firestone  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
BRM P261 (1966) (#1966) F1 1966 15 +5.608
97.510mph
11 +1L
96.346mph
24 1:54.144
97.945mph
Goodyear  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) (#1966) F1 1966 12 +4.973
98.053mph
12 +24.364
95.511mph
24 1:53.922
98.136mph
Goodyear  
francesco
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Ferrari 246 (#1966) F1 1966 13 +4.975
98.052mph
13 +55.982
94.448mph
24 1:54.158
97.933mph
Firestone  
PaulV
 Blue Moose Racing
Ferrari 246 (#1966) F1 1966 16 +10.353
93.635mph
14 +2L
91.608mph
23 1:56.361
96.079mph
Firestone  
Ziu Bacubacu
  OLD SCHOOL RACING TEAM
Ferrari 246 (#1966) F1 1966 5 +2.036
100.646mph
15 +23L
96.447mph
2 1:52.380
99.482mph
Camshaft
Firestone  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) (#1966) F1 1966 7 +3.284
99.528mph
16 +24L
92.730mph
1 1:57.837
94.875mph
Disco
Goodyear  
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« on: July 15, 2020, 09:56:33 PM +0100 »

Season 37 MIXED OPEN WHEEL – Round 2 –  Mexico City  

It’s the second round of the Mixed Open Wheel series in which we will be using cars from 1965, 1966, 1967 (F2) & the newly released 1968 mod. Drivers entering this series must select a manufacturer group & keep to that group for the whole season. Where more than one chassis is allocated to the group you can select any car. Pro / Works standard drivers cannot use Group 8 or Group 9.

Round 2 will use the 2 litre engined cars from 1966. The track is Mexico City, a Papyrus original.

Server = UKGPL_4
IP = 77.102.28.179
Race date = Tuesday 21 July 2020
Time = starts no later than 21.00 UK time.
Track =  Mexico
Race length = 25 Laps (50 minutes)
Variant = 1966 – 2 Litre
60fps patch used 60fpsV2newmod
Damage Model = Intermediate
Qualifying time = 30-45 minutes
Replay = here

The championship will run with Intermediate damage model. Pro / Works drivers are not permitted to take any resets. Amateur / Privateer drivers are permitted one reset. Each reset (irrespective of fault) must be followed by a Stop & Go in the pit lane within two laps of the incident. If a reset is required on the last lap a time penalty will be added. Failure to take a Stop & Go will result in a time penalty. Any driver taking a more than one Reset will be disqualified.
This season, races are to be run at 60 frames per second – please use the 60 fps patch

Full Driver lists and divisional rules including manufacturer groups can be found here Championship Standings page

DRIVER ALLOCATIONS
Alain Maurice – Pro – Group 1 (Eagle)
Alessandro Issachini – Pro – Group 2 – (McLaren)
AnGex – Pro – Group 7 (Ferrari)
Bagrupp – Pro – Group 7 (Ferrari)
Billy NoBrakes – Am – Group 8 (Brabham)
Dave Curtis – Ams – Group 9 (Lotus)
EvilClive – Pro – Group 6 (Honda)
Fpolicardi – Pro – Group 4 (Cooper)
Francesco – Ams – Group 7 (Ferrari)
Magic Arsouille – Pro – Group 7 (Ferrari)
PaulV – Ams – Group 7 (Ferrari)
Phil Thornton – Ams – Group 5 (Matra)
Rainier – Ams – Group 8 (Brabham)
Raoni Frizz – Pro – Group 5 (Matra)
Ziu Bacubacu – Pro – Group 7 (Ferrari)
Cookie – Pro – Group 6 (Honda)
Doni Yourth – Pro – Group 3 (BRM)
Uli – Pro – Group 6 (Honda)
Gareth – Pro - TBA
Daniel San - TBA

There is no Red Zone. Moderating will be on reported incidents only. Remember that lap 1 incidents carry an additional penalty place.
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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2020, 09:46:20 AM +0100 »

Tristan, Ziu and Francesco said they are Group7 (Ferrari)
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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2020, 09:56:02 AM +0100 »

Tristan, Ziu and Francesco said they are Group7 (Ferrari)
Thanks David - nor sure why that information was missed? Maybe I copied an older post.
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« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2020, 05:59:44 PM +0100 »

Guess track limit is grass, not white lines, right?
Always same problem here in Mexico  laugh
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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2020, 10:03:14 PM +0100 »

Guess track limit is grass, not white lines, right?
Always same problem here in Mexico  laugh
Yes the white lines are the track boundary.

The definition of what is meant by keeping within the track boundary is on this page (bullet point 11 under the General section). Just in case anyone cannot find it, it states:

Riding the kerbs is permitted but there must always be at least two wheels within the track boundary at any one time. If three or four wheels have been placed outside the track boundary then a driver is deemed to have left the track and will subsequently have to perform a rejoin with the necessary caution this dictates.

  • If you have knowingly overdone the kerb riding or left the track for any other reason in qualifying, please abort the lap in order to not post an illegal lap time.

Which at Mexico essentially means "Keep off the grass" and "Keep off the white tyres"
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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2020, 10:21:17 PM +0100 »

IMO the tyre polos are compulsory!

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« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2020, 11:00:33 PM +0100 »

I agree with Axel.
The polos are part of the Mexico track and IMHO are NOT optional. With the polos in place the question about grass is irrelevant  Undecided
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« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2020, 11:54:56 PM +0100 »

A misunderstanding. I was referring to the corners without tyres when I said stay off the grass. I took it for granted that nobody would try to "ride the polos". I can't see how hitting the polos could be quicker. I'll amend my post to avoid any confusion.
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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2020, 10:57:11 AM +0100 »

Maybe I also misunderstood.
I thought that it was being suggested that the polos could be removed ( turned off), just like the pit wall at Kyalami? This would obviously offer an advantage to any individual who was driving "sans polos".
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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2020, 11:28:35 AM +0100 »

Guys, my question is not for the poles or not, sure impossible to cross there and I'm not favorable to remove them. But there is other turns in the circuit where there is just white lines before the grass and no poles, or in the straight is possible accross the line without problem

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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2020, 12:31:45 PM +0100 »

Guys, my question is......there is other turns in the circuit where there is just white lines before the grass.....
This is the question I was trying to answer (sorry my post has caused some confusion). On the corners where there are no polos, it is permissible to cross the white lines but two wheels must remain within the white lines at all times. If a driver is touching the grass then they are quite likely to have all 4 wheels outside the track boundary (the tarmac outside the white lines is very wide).

The alternative would be to say the grass marks the track boundary, in which case at the S-bend at T3 and T4  the drivers  could cut the corners by putting 2 wheels on the grass. This would turn the GP into an Rallycross race which would be inappropriate IMO.

Similarly, on the straight a driver should keep at least 2 wheels inside the white lines.

I hope this clarifies the situation for everyone.
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« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2020, 12:54:47 PM +0100 »

yup!!  Grin

Just as an aside. I notice that UKGPL 11 is up as a practice server for tonight's race. But, it has been configured to only allow some cars?? It would appear that Hondas are not welcome??  Undecided

oops! another mistake from me .....2 litre cars only for tonight   stupid
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« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2020, 01:00:08 PM +0100 »

Tonight is a 2L race. So Honda drivers should select the BT11 2.7L.
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« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2020, 02:39:31 PM +0100 »

Guys, my question is......there is other turns in the circuit where there is just white lines before the grass.....
This is the question I was trying to answer (sorry my post has caused some confusion). On the corners where there are no polos, it is permissible to cross the white lines but two wheels must remain within the white lines at all times. If a driver is touching the grass then they are quite likely to have all 4 wheels outside the track boundary (the tarmac outside the white lines is very wide).


That was my question
Thanks Phil for clarification  Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2020, 11:28:08 PM +0100 »

A good race for me. I got a decent start and kept out of trouble on the first lap. I tried to stay with Fulvio and Alain but they were too quick. Not by much but enough for them to pull away slowly over several laps and once I had lost the draft they were gone. I settled down and tried to be consistent. I'm finding it much easier to avoid locking up the brakes now I've fitted a Load Cell to my brake pedal. If I brake a bit to hard it is possible to ease off the pressure and allow the tyres to grip again. On previous trips to this track I've found T1 very tough and I've invariably crashed into the armco when I've been too ambitious on the brakes, but not today!

I saw Evil catching me on Prib in the closing stages so I pushed hard to stay ahead of him but it was to no avail, he caught and passed me easily. After that I had a momentary lapse in concentration and I spun twice; then all of a sudden Anreas and David Rainier were all over my gearbox. I thought I'd be a sitting duck on the long straight but I just did enough to hold onto my place over the last 3 laps.

Grats to my new Antipasti team mate Uli on a fine win, it was a very close finish. Commiserations to my old team mate Axel. Hope you have better luck next time!
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