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October 12, 2006, 08:52:42 PM +0100 - Zolder (2002-2008) - UKGTL Ladder GTC-TC-76
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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Pero_Grozni
 RS Motorsport
Ford Escort RS (#35) GTC-TC-76 1 1:44.808
88.957mph
1 40:34.305
84.260mph
22 1:45.603
88.287mph
Avon  
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
Ford Escort RS (#74) GTC-TC-76 2 +1.372
87.808mph
2 +16.224
83.702mph
22 1:46.833
87.271mph
Avon  
baracus250gt
 Ghostspeed
BMW CSL Alpina (#87) GTC-TC-76 4 +2.080
87.226mph
3 +22.742
83.480mph
22 1:47.334
86.864mph
Dunlop  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Ford Escort RS (#74) GTC-TC-76 11 +4.644
85.183mph
4 +59.882
82.237mph
22 1:48.897
85.617mph
Avon  
Zacari
 Team Shark
Porsche 914-6 (#370) GTC-TC-76 9 +4.400
85.373mph
5 +1:18.662
81.623mph
22 1:49.118
85.443mph
Dunlop  
Carl Hart
 Racin24-7
BMW CSL Alpina (#87) GTC-TC-76 5 +2.912
86.552mph
6 +1:22.186
81.508mph
22 1:47.839
86.457mph
Dunlop  
mag07
 
Ford Escort RS (#74) GTC-TC-76 7 +4.050
85.647mph
7 +1:28.925
81.291mph
22 1:48.240
86.136mph
Avon  
Baz
 Team Oldie Racing
Ford Escort RS (#74) GTC-TC-76 17 +5.941
84.185mph
8 +1L
80.400mph
21 1:50.127
84.661mph
Avon  
mgoran
 
Porsche 914-6 (#370) GTC-TC-76 14 +5.333
84.650mph
9 +2.108
80.331mph
21 1:51.177
83.861mph
Dunlop  
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Ford Escort RS (#74) GTC-TC-76 15 +5.781
84.307mph
10 +2.329
80.323mph
21 1:50.244
84.571mph
Avon  
1p
 
Ford Escort RS (#74) GTC-TC-76 3 +1.664
87.567mph
11 +16.775
79.850mph
21 1:46.435
87.597mph
Avon  
ASSASSINO
 Ghostspeed
Ford Escort RS (#74) GTC-TC-76 6 +3.727
85.902mph
12 +20.301
79.735mph
21 1:49.592
85.074mph
Avon  
Madd-RIP
 
Ford Escort RS (#121212) GTC-TC-76 10 +4.576
85.236mph
13 +23.293
79.638mph
21 1:48.108
86.242mph
Avon  
will16v
 28CD Motorsports
BMW CSL Alpina (#87) GTC-TC-76 19 +12.574
79.428mph
14 +1:51.079
76.893mph
21 1:52.620
82.786mph
Dunlop  
ossie
 
BMW CSL Alpina (#87) GTC-TC-76 18 +8.039
82.620mph
15 +6L 16 1:51.456
83.651mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Adam Parle
 Legends Racing
Ford Escort RS (#200871) GTC-TC-76 16 +5.940
84.186mph
16 +8L 14 1:50.598
84.300mph
unknown
Avon  
Iain
 
BMW CSL Alpina (#87) GTC-TC-76 13 +4.961
84.937mph
17 +11L 11 1:50.282
84.542mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Ford Escort RS (#200871) GTC-TC-76 8 +4.301
85.450mph
18 +16L 6 1:57.290
79.490mph
unknown
Avon  
pribeiro
 Ghostspeed
Porsche 914-6 (#370) GTC-TC-76 12 +4.863
85.013mph
19 6 1:55.246
80.900mph
suspension
Dunlop  
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« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2006, 09:12:51 PM +0100 »

well that was crap  Angry  Was looking forward to a good race here too.

Qualied 8th which i was happy with. Got nurfed off the track on the first or second lap, picking up a bloody 'cut corner' warning at the same time Angry...kept it going around to the same place on the next lap where i got the door slammed on me by the same driver from the previous lap and ended up spinning into the gravel for another cut warning ! Roll Eyes Took me about a minute to get out of the gravel trap  :'(
Was so irate i then chucked it off the track again and got a stop and go. Sat in the pits for the worlds longest S&P pen...upto 40 seconds when i decided to hit the escape key Huh, as i was being lapped already.
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« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2006, 09:22:47 PM +0100 »

once i got into the race my car was understeering and locking up all the time, i kept skidding over the chicane and got 3 cut tracks for basically spinning off.  Angry
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« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2006, 09:27:39 PM +0100 »

well that was crap  Angry  Was looking forward to a good race here too.

Exactly my own feeling Mark Embarrassed
I did 2 mistakes after (only 4 laps) in the same place, after last chicane, made me hit the right barrier :'(
1st time, after a whole lap with steering problems i spend 2 mnts in pits repairing and replacing parts Angry
2nd time with the very same problems, during the hell lap to pit, to repair and replace again, i distract myself
watching some stuff at MOTORSTV (my TV is over right from my PC +- 3 mts. away) and BANG......and burn my engine Undecided
against the wall Grin, never mind that, i was 2 laps down by that time tho.............. hang

Congrats to all and see you next race (maybe at GTR2) tt1

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« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2006, 09:32:32 PM +0100 »

Not a great qualifying for me, 16th I think.  The start was pretty average, kept out of trouble for a while, until there was a spinner at T1.  Couldn't see the car for the smoke, and ended plowing into the front left hand side of the car ... sorry whoever it was.
[EDIT - Just looked at the replay - Sorry Dave.]

After that my car wasn't handling great, and after a couple of locks under braking it was time for a stop and go.  Kept going for a while, but the rears were getting over 100 degrees and the car was all over the place.  Kept well out of the way of the leaders coming through, but after sliding off into the tyre wall again, enough was enough. Trundled round to the pits for an early bath.

Was knackered by the time I retired, was fighting the car the whole way round - especially round the first few corners (now I remember why I haven't raced here for a while - have never got a handle on it).

Amazing pace up the front as ever.
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« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2006, 09:42:35 PM +0100 »

ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....................

This could easily been my last GTL race. Another bloody boring race. Didn't see anybody the whole 40 minutes. And hotlapping in this game is like watching grass grow.
 
I'm gonna see if I keep racing at Comet Dave, but very unlikely, as the racingsphere there is kinda bad, with all the ego's and their etiquette. Might give Per Gassne my spot there.

After GTR2, GTl just bores me to death. I only sticked in this race to get the teamscore.
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« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2006, 09:47:09 PM +0100 »

Was so irate i then chucked it off the track again and got a stop and go. Sat in the pits for the worlds longest S&P pen...upto 40 seconds when i decided to hit the escape key Huh, as i was being lapped already.

You are the same Mark Jonzo, are you not, who recently said:
Too right Dave, spot on, thats always annoyed me when people quit so early because they have had an off or been trying to win the race on the first couple of laps. Especially in endurance races  Angry

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« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2006, 09:47:52 PM +0100 »

Waste of an hour and a half, quali'd ok and got a reasonable run in the beginning, although I'm expecting some crap to fall on me from a great height...Soz many apologies. (you know what I'm talking about) I found that I just kept locking up everywhere initially, I even had to adjust balance after a few laps to minimise it.
Had a good fight with Shark and settled into a rhythm only for the damned game to give me a 2 cut track warnings at the same time on the same corner!!! wtf.. to make matters worse I go in for the stop/go and the T**T of a game stops me short and I cannot move forward or back or press enter to serve my penalty, I go from 4th to 13th....what a piece of S**T.
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« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2006, 09:48:13 PM +0100 »

I'm gonna see if I keep racing at Comet Dave, but very unlikely, as the racingsphere there is kinda bad, with all the ego's and their etiquette. Might give Per Gassne my spot there.

Funny, I was thinking exactly the same thing! Undecided
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« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2006, 09:53:06 PM +0100 »

I'm gonna see if I keep racing at Comet Dave, but very unlikely, as the racingsphere there is kinda bad, with all the ego's and their etiquette. Might give Per Gassne my spot there.

Funny, I was thinking exactly the same thing! Undecided

Guess we need a 2nd reserve driver then...any volunteers? Grin
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« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2006, 09:54:07 PM +0100 »

Not a great qualifying for me, 16th I think.  The start was pretty average, kept out of trouble for a while, until there was a spinner at T1.  Couldn't see the car for the smoke, and ended plowing into the front left hand side of the car ... sorry whoever it was.
[EDIT - Just looked at the replay - Sorry Dave.]

Unlucky, mate, I locked the rears trying to stay close to Goran's 914 in the bends as I had a huge top speed advantage on it, had to dive to the inside to avoid creaming into the back of him and spun, unfortunately coming to rest smack bang in the middle of the track. Can't believe nobody else hit me, good job chaps.

In fact, locking the rears became a bit of a theme. Having finally dragged myself back onto the back of Goran and passed him before the final chicane (pleasure to have you with us, sir), I then caught Baz up, before once again locking the rears at the Kleine chicane and going off, letting Goran back past. Spent the rest of the race trying to catch up and would've got 9th back had there been just one more lap, but with Pero having lapped me it was not to be.

I really struggle with the Escort, it just doesn't talk to me the way some of the other cars do. I wish now I'd taken the Capri 2600. Still, top 10 isn't bad all things considered.
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« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2006, 09:54:13 PM +0100 »

ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....................

This could easily been my last GTL race. Another bloody boring race. Didn't see anybody the whole 40 minutes. And hotlapping in this game is like watching grass grow.

EVERYTHING bores you to death Jeff. I'm suprised you haven't keeled over yet really.  Tongue Wink

I had my most successful race in GTL for ages. No idea where I qualified. In the teens somewhere, finished 4th with a no mistakes race and ok but not stellar pace. I could not get to grips with the Escort after no practice and no setup for all but the very last bit of my qualifying. Race gave me opportunity to stay steady and learn the car.

Escort is not really suited to my driving style, but I managed to coax her home with a very good result for me.
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« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2006, 09:56:26 PM +0100 »

I was very thrilled about finaly geting into the 44's with the Escort - a shame the lap didnt get ssaved. What suprised me though was the difference of pace to the field - I knew that I was quick here, but not by so much. So I was in for a boring race with lots of engine conservation.
I was able to get away cleanly after the start and got a good lead after a few laps and started driving very easily to keet the car alive. All was going fine until I cought up with a backmarker and I misjudged the situatuin and almost ran into the back of him - luckily I was just able to avoid contact, but didnt have the needed steering lock to keep from spinning (I had only 30,5 degrees in the setup). I was able to rejoin quickly though and passed him a few corners later on. The next and last interesting occurance was when I again got in trouble wih a backmarker at the end of the race. He appologised afterwards as there were no blue flags and he thought I was fighting him for position. But it wasnt much of a problem - I should have gone about the pass easyer anyway as I had a big lead and there was no need to pass immidiatly.
All in all a booring race on one of my favourite track/car combinations.
I hope you will still do a race or two Ruskus - otherwise it could get quite booring and that goes for the Comet leauge as well.
Seems like I have to get me GTL2 to get back the raceing thrills GTL used to have, or maybe wait for that Race game (WTCC) or whatever it will be called.
I cant really get into GT racing - I am much more into touring cars and historic cars.

BTW: My Escort finnaly lasted a full race distance  Grin
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« Reply #27 on: October 12, 2006, 09:57:40 PM +0100 »

I don't understand why you really fast guys at the top don't take the slower cars to get more racing. That's the whole point of the ladder points. If you take the fastest cars you're going to have lonely races.
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« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2006, 09:57:50 PM +0100 »

ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....................

This could easily been my last GTL race. Another bloody boring race. Didn't see anybody the whole 40 minutes. And hotlapping in this game is like watching grass grow.

EVERYTHING bores you to death Jeff. I'm suprised you haven't keeled over yet really.  Tongue Wink

I knew you would comment on that Grin. I'm trying to look for other words than boring Tongue. But you're wrong. I loved every GTR2 race, even if I lead from start to finish, the game is even fun when hotlapping. Driving 22 laps all alone is just not how I want to fill my evening.
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« Reply #29 on: October 12, 2006, 10:02:27 PM +0100 »

It's probably the least practiced track in GTL for me but by the end I was liking it more than when I started Cheesy

Took the 914-6 which was slower overall (much slower mid-range acceleration :'() but pretty stable and good round the twisty stuff.  Quali'd 9th and was more than happy with that!  The race started well and I made a couple of places in the first 2 laps.  Then the downside of having the Porsche came into play when I got behind one of the escorts, no chance to get into a braking zone and overtake, but being held up through the bends so I got nailed down the straights Roll Eyes

After out-braking myself when I got a rare look down the inside, I settled down into a good rhythm lapping in the 49's in 7th.  The laps slipped by.... slowly!  After what felt like an age it was only the 12th lap Huh in the end I decided to keep a steady pace and hope for mistakes/misfortune ahead, picking up a couple of places to finish 5th.  Which I'm also more than happy with! Grin Grin

Couple of points.  Firstly, it makes no sense to me to come out of the pits in quali and go right up the backside of a car on a hotlap.  Ever.  People do, and I'd rather they didn't.  There's no flippin' point! Tongue and secondly, pleeeease DONT talk until EVERYONE has finished the laps they're on at the end.  Regardless of if you want to look or not, it's an unnecessary distraction and more importantly against the rules.

I don't understand why you really fast guys at the top don't take the slower cars to get more racing. That's the whole point of the ladder points. If you take the fastest cars you're going to have lonely races.

Absolutely damn fine point.  It always amuses me that the fastest guys take the fastest cars 99% of the time for whatever reason.  IMO if you're that quick, if you want a chance of close racing take one of the slower cars.  If you end up having a lonely race it's more self-inflicted than anything else in this kind of league.
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