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October 11, 2020, 11:10:41 PM +0100 - Wiesbaden - UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Markus Friedrich
 
BRM P115 (#1967) F1 1967 1 1:40.282
97.013mph
1 49:17.340
95.400mph
29 1:40.256
97.038mph
Goodyear  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
BRM P115 (#1967) F1 1967 5 +1.783
95.318mph
2 +47.124
93.904mph
29 1:41.776
95.589mph
Goodyear  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) (#1967) F1 1967 3 +1.217
95.850mph
3 +50.487
93.799mph
29 1:42.146
95.242mph
Goodyear  
bagrupp
 Team Groundhog
Cooper T81b (Maserati) (#1967) F1 1967 6 +1.920
95.190mph
4 +1:00.012
93.503mph
29 1:42.295
95.104mph
Firestone  
Pepe Higdon
 
Cooper T81b (Maserati) (#1967) F1 1967 4 +1.731
95.367mph
5 +1:24.648
92.745mph
29 1:43.159
94.307mph
Firestone  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) (#1967) F1 1967 8 +3.558
93.689mph
6 +1:41.713
92.228mph
29 1:42.734
94.697mph
Goodyear  
Dulima
 
BRM P115 (#1967) F1 1967 9 +4.081
93.219mph
7 +1L
90.838mph
28 1:45.023
92.633mph
Goodyear  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Brabham BT24 (Repco) (#1967) F1 1967 12 +4.964
92.437mph
8 +2L
88.549mph
27 1:46.081
91.709mph
Goodyear  
francesco
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Brabham BT24 (Repco) (#1967) F1 1967 13 +5.181
92.247mph
9 +6L
87.333mph
23 1:46.114
91.681mph
Disco
Goodyear  
David Sochenna
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) (#1967) F1 1967 11 +4.876
92.514mph
10 +12L
85.077mph
17 1:45.883
91.881mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Albert Hallu
 
BRM P115 (#1967) F1 1967 17 +22.822
79.028mph
11 +13L
85.384mph
16 1:47.866
90.192mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) (#1967) F1 1967 16 +11.573
86.975mph
12 +15L
86.375mph
14 1:44.978
92.673mph
accident
Goodyear  
maestro57
 Black Night Racing
Honda RA300 (#1967) F1 1967 14 +5.857
91.659mph
13 +42.368
84.115mph
14 1:46.469
91.375mph
Disco
Firestone  
Baab
 Team Baarf
BRM P115 (#1967) F1 1967 2 +0.413
96.615mph
14 +27L
87.539mph
2 1:48.724
89.480mph
Disco
Goodyear  
BadBlood
 Blue Moose Racing
Cooper T81b (Maserati) (#1967) F1 1967 15 +8.965
89.052mph
15 +16.404
81.523mph
2 1:52.647
86.364mph
Disco
Firestone  
AnGex
 Black Night Racing
Cooper T81b (Maserati) (#1967) F1 1967 7 +2.402
94.743mph
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« on: October 03, 2020, 05:37:21 PM +0100 »

Season 37 F1 SPRINT – Round 6 –  WIESBADEN  

The sixth race in the 1967 F1 SPRINT series takes us to Wiesbaden in Germany.  
The Wiesbadener Automobiel-Turnier was an event first organised in the early 1920s. Apart from the Hohe Wurzel hillclimb and a gymkhana, it also included races for sports- and racing cars titled Rund um den Neroberg from 1924-1929 and in 1931. Motorcycles were also catered for at least once, in 1927. The races were originally held on an eight-shaped 12.5 km circuit north of the city, which comprised 86 curves through undulating terrain. Large parts of this course seem to have vanished since. The sole documented fastest lap is Hans Stuck's 9.22,0 = 80.1 km/h (1928). In 1931, the race took place once more, now on a shortened, or possibly completely new, 4.6 km circuit. Bugatti-driver HeinrichJoachim von Morgen clocked the fastest lap in 2.41,4 = 102.6 km/h. The new course was used just once, because after 1931 the Neroberg races were dropped in favour of grass track races at the airfield of Erbenheim, just south-east of Wiesbaden. That same airfield was later paved and hosted a one-off auto race in 1958. The next races in Wiesbaden took place in May 1935 and 1936 as part of the Wiesbadener Motorsportkämpfe, which was more or less the successor of the Automobiel-Turnier mentioned above. The event included a long-distance regularity run, but also a speed event (Hochleistungsprüfung) on a 7.48 km street circuit in Wiesbaden, for touring cars, sports cars and motorcycles, although it should be noted there is a possibility these actually used some sort of time trial-like format.

Server = UKGPL_10
IP = 217.155.118.41
Race date = Sunday 11-10-2020
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track = WIESBADEN
Race length = 29 Laps (50 minutes)
Variant = 1967
60fps patch used   = 60fpsV2newmod
Damage Model = Intermediate
Qualifying time = 30-45 minutes
Replay = here


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Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page
Please check the Season 37 details regarding rules and the 1967 F1 Sprint Championship pages in particular.

Drivers must complete 50% of each race to score.

"Works" drivers are not allowed any resets.
"Privateer" drivers are allowed a maximum of one reset with a compulsory Stop & Go within two laps.
Drivers are reminded that Lap 1 incidents carry an extra 1 place penalty.
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Works drivers are :
Angex
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Doni Yourth
Pepe Higdon
Ricardo Da Silva
Dulima
Phil Thornton
Baab
MagicArsouille
Arf Arf Arf
Gareth
Iestyn Davies
DuFossa
Markus Friedrich


Privateers drivers are :
Albert Hallu
Billy Nobrakes
Dave Curtis
David Sochenna
PaulV
Francesco
Bernie Darwin
karliss
Daniel_San
Badblood
Maestro57
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« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2020, 01:10:29 AM +0100 »


I was seeiing duplicate/mirrored white lines on track, which was rather distracting.
However, installing a really early nvidia driver (& re-applying the same nvidia inspector profile) seems to have corrected that.
- just mentioning in case anyone else finds similar?

Cheers,
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« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2020, 06:04:22 PM +0100 »

I was a little surprised to see a relatively peaceful, open track like Goodwood replaced with this city venue consisting of eight, blind 90o corners, most of which I'll be taking in first gear. Let's hope the inevitable pile ups occur in one of the wider streets, because if we get clogged up in that constricted section between turns 7-10, none of us may get out alive.  Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2020, 08:12:46 PM +0100 »

Not sure I like this track much. Not sure I will get OUT of first gear...

Pity Goodwood has issues. It is lovely.
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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2020, 09:40:39 PM +0100 »

Well - got out of first a couple of times but the engine let go on Lap 3 - did about 30 practice laps not a problem. I was a moving chicane anyway so decided not to bother with the Shift-R. Might actually practice before Sunday for the next one.  Grin
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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2020, 09:51:25 PM +0100 »

Hit the Green Flag for the Race and GPL decided to stop working... Angry
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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2020, 10:06:48 PM +0100 »

What a dreadful track.
Been happier to take my chances of a disco at glorious Goodwood rather than this tip pot place.
Was hitting 1.42's in practice but nothing near that tonight.
Apologies to anyone I made contact with. I simply wasn't able to drive the track.
Quit after a coming together with Fran.
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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2020, 10:28:50 PM +0100 »

First time hit this track tonite was quite ok.

Sorry Bob for not seeing you in lap 2.That looked bad, at least no one had to retire there.
My Fault....
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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2020, 10:29:09 PM +0100 »

Good start gaining the 8th place but at lap 3 smoke from the engine, at lap 23 header and stopped race.
The only luck was the touch with Billy,for me was without consequence.
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« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2020, 11:51:14 PM +0100 »

This is a new track for me and, as city tracks go, I actually prefer it to places like Monaco, Pau, and Turin. Still, it is unforgiving, as I quickly discovered in practice. The intermediate damage model setting seemed to me to be producing pro level damage results in the Cooper's handling. I concluded that the only way to get through this place was to do so as carefully as possible and let others subject themselves to the inevitable laws of attrition.

I qualified with a PB 1:42.00 in fourth behind three guys who were clearly faster than I was and just ahead of Doni and Bastian who were not long to be denied. I know my place in the UKGPL food chain, and although I am classified as a "works" driver, I am not one of that class who works but the one who gets worked. I understand that and accept my fate without my customary pissing and moaning. For me the only question as I sat on the starting grid was how long I would be able to hold Doni and Bastian back, a question that was answered within the first 100 yards. With my sloppy start, I found myself in 6th place before the field reached the first turn.

Still, that was essentially the end of my angst. I avoided early idiocy, wasn't nearby when the death angel came calling, and stayed away from trouble in the trouble spots. Soon the field lengthened out and by the end I was about 16 seconds behind Bastian and 16 seconds ahead of Phil. It had been a rather lonely drive, but in the midst of a cold city, even loneliness occasionally is something to be cherished.

I do want to send a shout out to the back markers, all of whom were outstanding in giving way to my approach. There was one instance where one driver,. having been passed by me, thought it would be fun to race me to T1. I'm not going to review that incident on the replay because I want to leave this pretty city thinking kindly of my time here.
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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2020, 11:55:18 PM +0100 »

Server replay available from: here
Also added to event details page.

Had some issues with the import,  results will be added when possible.

In the meantime, here are some details:



RACE RESULTS (After 29 laps)

Pos No Driver                          Team     Nat Laps   Race Time       Diff
 1  18 Markus Friedrich                BRM      GER   29  49m17.336s           
 2  11  Doni67                         BRM      CAN   29  50m04.460s    47.124s
 3  10 Dave Curtis                     Brabham  GBR   29  50m07.823s    50.487s
 4   5 Bastian Grupp                   Cooper   GER   29  50m17.348s  1m00.012s
 5  12 Pepe Higdon                     Cooper   USA   29  50m41.984s  1m24.648s
 6  15 Phil Thornton                   Brabham  GBR   29  50m59.049s  1m41.713s
 7  13 Dulima Dulima                   BRM      BRA   28  49m58.754s   1 lap(s)
 8  16 Bernie Darwin                   Brabham  GBR   27  49m26.398s   2 lap(s)
 9   6 Fran67 Molteni                  Brabham  ITA   23  42m42.125s   6 lap(s)
10   9 David Sochenna                  Brabham  POR   17  32m23.962s  12 lap(s)
11   3 Albert Hallu                    BRM      BRA   16  30m23.032s  13 lap(s)
12   1 Billy NoBrakes67                Brabham  GBR   14  26m16.848s  15 lap(s)
13  19 Peter Byles67                   Honda    GBR   14  26m59.216s  15 lap(s)
14  17 Bob Whitwell                    BRM      GBR    2   3m42.269s  27 lap(s)
15  20 Paul Whitfield                  Cooper   GBR    2   3m58.673s  27 lap(s)
16  14 Billy NoBrakes67                Brabham  GBR    0 DidNotStart  29 lap(s)
17   8 Andreas Gebhardt                Cooper   GER    0 DidNotStart  29 lap(s)



Hopefully no track-limits will apply:

ON TRACK LAPS

Driver                           Laps/Total    Percent
Pepe Higdon                          (0/29)       0.00
Bernie Darwin                        (0/27)       0.00
Markus Friedrich                     (0/29)       0.00
Peter Byles67                        (0/14)       0.00
David Sochenna                       (0/17)       0.00
Dulima Dulima                        (0/28)       0.00
 Doni67                              (0/29)       0.00
Paul Whitfield                        (0/2)       0.00
Fran67 Molteni                       (0/23)       0.00
Phil Thornton                        (0/29)       0.00
Bob Whitwell                          (0/2)       0.00
Dave Curtis                          (0/29)       0.00
Bastian Grupp                        (0/29)       0.00
Albert Hallu                         (0/16)       0.00
Billy NoBrakes67                     (0/14)       0.00


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« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2020, 11:01:31 AM +0100 »

Unlike most I enjoyed this track which I thought was more like Mexico than Monaco , so naturally I loaded my Rouen set up for the race !  By Lap 2 I was in 8th place but had to over brake to avoid rear ending Fran & causing a massive chain reaction , my off lost me a stack of places having to wait for everyone to pass before I could recover , I then hit the barriers going into the twizzely bit and the re bound sent me into the Honda of  P Byles  sending him into a bit of a twizz  ( sorry for that, hope it didn't ruin your race too much )  Roll Eyes Billy drove through the carnage but then lost it coming out of the hairpin , so I got my next to last place back again . Somehow finished 8th only 2 laps down in a pretty lonely race , what an achievement  Smiley

Grats to the podium and all finishers  Smiley 
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« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2020, 05:44:00 PM +0100 »

Well, wish I had uploaded a Rouen set up Bernie. Unfortunately my setup was much more "ruin". I managed to make the friendly coop into a wild beast Sad

Went for a quick look at Solitude. Not sure what sort of time would be competitive but my 4:15 sighter lap certainly would not be  Grin

Took that down to 3:58 and caught a few slides and started to really enjoy myself. Then I crashed...

If I can take another 30 seconds off I might not qualify at the back... lol.
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« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2020, 07:50:48 PM +0100 »

Congrats to Doni and Dave for the podium and grats to all finishers as well! A city track like this one does not forgive a lot of mistakes.

In the beginning I did not like the track as well. The stop-and-go characteristic prevented me from finding a rhythm. I even thought about skipping this race. I really needed some practice before I started to like the circuit. Eventually I liked braking into these slow corners and I had quite some fun. After quali I was surprised being over 1s faster than anybody except Bob. I think this track needs a good amount of training and focus to stay out of the barriers for 29 laps.
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« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2020, 07:54:02 PM +0100 »

I'm not a great fan of this track either. Too "Point and Squirt" for me and a bit slippery. However, that doesn't mean there are not lessons to be learnt here. Markus and Doni showed what can be done with the heavy BRM, it looks like they have mastered the hard braking and hard acceleration better than me. I was trying to get the power down early and to use the throttle to rotate the car but I'm obviously not good enough at executing that technique without generating excessive oversteer (which cost me lap time). A better setup would have helped but developing that is a skill in itself.

So for me, whilst I didn't like the track, the race has highlighted an area I need to work on  Roll Eyes

I had an engine explode in qually. It went bang over the bump on the main straight. So in the race I lifted over the bump to make sure I didn't over-rev the engine and so it survived the entire race.

Grats to Dave on a podium and top placed Privateer. Well deserved, great driving.
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