UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ. - Silverstone - Jun 9

[Erling G-P]

Thanks Hristo.  Doubt it's the car - I did try Matt's car earlier and was just as slow with it.

Here's the hotlap:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i9AMZQWZLiopG9kehpmnjFt5pp2mDDKF/view?usp=sharing

As you can see, I'm upshifting waay later than you in several places, as I'm simply moving a lot slower.

[Hristo Itchov]

Thanks Hristo.  Doubt it's the car - I did try Matt's car earlier and was just as slow with it.

Here's the hotlap:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i9AMZQWZLiopG9kehpmnjFt5pp2mDDKF/view?usp=sharing

As you can see, I'm upshifting waay later than you in several places, as I'm simply moving a lot slower.

I watched it. You're not using all of the track width in places, plus you're not carrying enough speed into the corners for some reason. I wonder if it's your FFB settings preventing you from feeling the limit of the car well. You can certainly turn in earlier and carry more speed as you trail brake into corners, and get back on the throttle harder to keep the revs and acceleration higher. It's all about keeping the momentum of the car and not letting the revs drop too much.

[Erling G-P]

Thanks Hristo.  Doubt it's the car - I did try Matt's car earlier and was just as slow with it.

Here's the hotlap:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i9AMZQWZLiopG9kehpmnjFt5pp2mDDKF/view?usp=sharing

As you can see, I'm upshifting waay later than you in several places, as I'm simply moving a lot slower.

I watched it. You're not using all of the track width in places, plus you're not carrying enough speed into the corners for some reason. I wonder if it's your FFB settings preventing you from feeling the limit of the car well. You can certainly turn in earlier and carry more speed as you trail brake into corners, and get back on the throttle harder to keep the revs and acceleration higher. It's all about keeping the momentum of the car and not letting the revs drop too much.

Thanks again.  Difficult to say with the FFB settings, without something to compare with.  Going faster into the corners, I simply run wide, so there must be something fundamental I'm doing wrong.  Will try once more, but have to switch to the Goodwood/Cobra combo soon.

[Erling G-P]

Just had another go; a complete fiasco.  Tried turning in earlier, with greater speed, but what happens almost every time, is I hit the apex too soon and thus get the line through the corner all wrong. At Stowe corner and only there for some reason, I would provoke a massive rear slide, at best shedding a ton of speed, but frequently ending up spinning. Have to devote some time to the upcoming race now, so have to put a hold on this for now.  Thanks for your efforts Hristo.

[Hristo Itchov]

Just had another go; a complete fiasco.  Tried turning in earlier, with greater speed, but what happens almost every time, is I hit the apex too soon and thus get the line through the corner all wrong. At Stowe corner and only there for some reason, I would provoke a massive rear slide, at best shedding a ton of speed, but frequently ending up spinning. Have to devote some time to the upcoming race now, so have to put a hold on this for now.  Thanks for your efforts Hristo.

It sounds to me like the issue is mostly that of not trail braking properly and/or turning in the right moment. Perhaps you're lifting off the brake pedal too soon or too much before or during turn in. Difficult to say without being physically present, as you said.

[Erling G-P]

Just had another go; a complete fiasco.  Tried turning in earlier, with greater speed, but what happens almost every time, is I hit the apex too soon and thus get the line through the corner all wrong. At Stowe corner and only there for some reason, I would provoke a massive rear slide, at best shedding a ton of speed, but frequently ending up spinning. Have to devote some time to the upcoming race now, so have to put a hold on this for now.  Thanks for your efforts Hristo.

It sounds to me like the issue is mostly that of not trail braking properly and/or turning in the right moment. Perhaps you're lifting off the brake pedal too soon or too much before or during turn in. Difficult to say without being physically present, as you said.

Probably more a question of not trail braking at all !!    This is a technique I never mastered, although with some cars I may do something akin to it, without thinking about it.  Maybe that's where I should direct my efforts; trying to learn this.

[Dimitar Dulichki]

Don't worry too much about that car and gaps Erling. I had a lot of problems at Aintree as well. Hristo was 5 (!) seconds faster than me with the same setup and i was unable to find the problem.

[Erling G-P]

Don't worry too much about that car and gaps Erling. I had a lot of problems at Aintree as well. Hristo was 5 (!) seconds faster than me with the same setup and i was unable to find the problem.

Maybe not, but it's more a question of whether I'm doing something fundamentally wrong that worries me.