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August 11, 2021, 08:31:51 PM +0100 - Crystal Palace - UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ.
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Hristo Itchov
 
Ford Anglia Super (#66) TC-65 D2 3 +0.262
82.627mph
1 20:31.443
81.172mph
20 1:00.529
82.571mph
Dunlop  
byagm
 
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#597) TC-65 D2 1 1:00.226
82.986mph
2 +2.565
81.003mph
20 1:00.414
82.728mph
Dunlop  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#590) TC-65 D2 2 +0.110
82.835mph
3 +4.118
80.901mph
20 1:00.303
82.880mph
Dunlop  
[dTR]_sHaGGy_
 
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#590) TC-65 D2 8 +0.940
81.711mph
4 +7.494
80.681mph
20 1:00.900
82.068mph
Dunlop  
Daz9
 
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#595) TC-65 D2 5 +0.448
82.373mph
5 +9.378
80.558mph
20 1:00.409
82.735mph
Dunlop  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Ford Anglia Super (#69) TC-65 D2 9 +1.414
81.083mph
6 +17.605
80.028mph
20 1:01.459
81.321mph
Dunlop  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#595) TC-65 D2 7 +0.882
81.788mph
7 +24.759
79.572mph
20 1:01.563
81.184mph
Dunlop  
Dimitar Dulichki
 Turbo Racing
Ford Anglia Super (#24) TC-65 D2 4 +0.307
82.565mph
8 +26.826
79.441mph
20 1:00.738
82.287mph
Dunlop  
AndyL
 
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#595) TC-65 D2 12 +2.097
80.194mph
9 +33.209
79.040mph
20 1:01.863
80.790mph
Dunlop  
seniordan
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#597) TC-65 D2 10 +1.825
80.546mph
10 +42.273
78.478mph
20 1:01.467
81.311mph
Dunlop  
Erling G-P
 TEAM-GTLDK
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#595) TC-65 D2 6 +0.552
82.233mph
11 +42.553
78.461mph
20 1:01.242
81.610mph
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#594) TC-65 D2 11 +1.855
80.507mph
12 +48.196
78.115mph
20 1:02.151
80.416mph
Dunlop  
Christian Dauger
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Ford Anglia Super (#69) TC-65 D2 13 +2.705
79.419mph
13 +48.265
78.110mph
20 1:02.249
80.289mph
Dunlop  
Robby82
 Turbo Racing
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#590) TC-65 D2 14 +9.595
71.582mph
+20L 0 ---
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DQ
Dunlop  
August 11, 2021, 09:17:08 PM +0100 - Crystal Palace - UKGTL Season 21 1964 British Saloon Car Champ.
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Daz9
 
Ford Falcon Sprint 351 (#90) GTC-65 1 57.213
87.357mph
1 19:43.147
84.485mph
20 57.380
87.102mph
Goodyear  
seniordan
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Ford Falcon Sprint 351 (#66) GTC-65 3 +0.991
85.869mph
2 +2.390
84.315mph
20 57.977
86.205mph
Goodyear  
[dTR]_sHaGGy_
 
Ford Falcon Sprint 351 (#90) GTC-65 5 +1.755
84.757mph
3 +6.510
84.023mph
20 58.301
85.726mph
Goodyear  
byagm
 
Ford Falcon Sprint 351 (#90) GTC-65 2 +0.100
87.204mph
4 +12.872
83.576mph
20 57.214
87.355mph
Goodyear  
Hristo Itchov
 
Lotus Cortina (#961) TC-65 D2 6 +2.251
84.050mph
5 +21.135
83.003mph
20 59.358
84.200mph
Dunlop  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Ford Falcon Sprint 351 (#90) GTC-65 4 +1.031
85.810mph
6 +32.980
82.194mph
20 58.561
85.346mph
Goodyear  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Lotus Cortina (#955) TC-65 D2 8 +2.700
83.420mph
7 +42.208
81.575mph
20 59.926
83.402mph
Dunlop  
Erling G-P
 TEAM-GTLDK
Alfa Romeo Giulia Super (#15197) TC-65 D2 9 +3.454
82.383mph
8 +52.218
80.914mph
20 1:00.825
82.169mph
Pirelli  
Dimitar Dulichki
 Turbo Racing
Lotus Cortina (#961) TC-65 D2 7 +2.277
84.013mph
9 +1L
79.508mph
19 59.805
83.570mph
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
Alfa Romeo Giulia Super (#15128) TC-65 D2 12 +4.857
80.521mph
10 +13.397
78.626mph
19 1:01.950
80.677mph
Pirelli  
Christian Dauger
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Lotus Cortina (#961) TC-65 D2 10 +4.480
81.013mph
11 +23.665
77.963mph
19 1:01.218
81.642mph
Dunlop  
AndyL
 
Jaguar MkII (#9) TC-65 D2 15 +6.791
78.088mph
12 +2L
74.686mph
18 1:04.449
77.549mph
Dunlop  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Jaguar MkII (#87) TC-65 D2 13 +5.901
79.189mph
13 +9.092
74.127mph
18 1:03.537
78.662mph
Dunlop  
Robby82
 Turbo Racing
Ford Falcon Sprint 351 (#41) GTC-65 14 +6.754
78.133mph
14 +13L 7 1:05.525
76.275mph
unknown
Goodyear  
MichaW
 
Alfa Romeo Giulia Super (#15197) TC-65 D2 11 +4.637
80.807mph
15 +16L 4 1:01.825
80.840mph
unknown
Pirelli  
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GT Legends
TC-65 D2
59.358
84.200mph
Hristo Itchov
Race
Lotus CortinaAugust 11, 2021, 09:17:08 PM +0100
L21BSCC
GT Legends
GTC-65
57.213
87.357mph
Daz9
Qualifying
Ford Falcon Sprint 351August 11, 2021, 09:17:08 PM +0100
L21BSCC
GT Legends
GTC-65
57.214
87.355mph
byagm
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« on: December 03, 2020, 11:46:29 AM +0000 »

Championship standings HERE

Grid/server capacity: 22

Car/Track download available by pm to WT

Saloon Car Race / The Small Car Trophy
Race 1 - Class A Only
Race 2 - Classes B, C & D Only

Track: Crystal Palace

Car restrictions: Drivers are limited to a maximum number of drives per Class. For more information please click HERE

RACE ONE
Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (10 mins) Drivers must not leave qualifying to change car make.
Race: 20:30 (20 laps)

RACE TWO
Practice/Car change: ~21:00 (5 mins)
Qualifying: 21:05 (10 mins) Drivers must not leave qualifying to change car make.
Race: 21:15 (20 laps)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

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« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2021, 05:20:40 PM +0100 »

Quick question about race 2 Tony:  Is it class B thru D, thus including class C, or is it only B & D?
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« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2021, 07:28:14 PM +0100 »

Quick question about race 2 Tony:  Is it class B thru D, thus including class C, or is it only B & D?
It's any class bar Class A
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« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2021, 08:00:10 PM +0100 »

Lovely little and short circuit. I love it. I think i will go with Lotus Cortina and Austin Mini Cooper S for this events.

59.7 with Cortina and 1:01.7 with Mini.

I upload my Hot Laps and setups if any one wants to take a look: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jnF1QAxZOHVEUuugFQZN3O0ITK5AbnHM/view?usp=sharing
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« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2021, 10:34:37 AM +0100 »

Some visual inspiration..............

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWp-0TuY4Sk
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« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2021, 07:53:15 PM +0100 »

hhmmmhh - unable to join: "game not available. host my be using an other or modified game"  Huh

Never had this.

As I had no time for practicing - I call it a day.

Have fun  Cool
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« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2021, 09:44:30 PM +0100 »

A good evening, a well-filled grid, a few fights, whatever the result ... Smiley Wink
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« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2021, 10:13:05 PM +0100 »

Results and replay now posted.

Still getting more chat than necessary in qualy guy's  oops
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« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2021, 10:14:22 PM +0100 »

A good evening, a well-filled grid, a few fights, whatever the result ... Smiley Wink
Enjoyed exchanging paint and wing mirrors with you Chris  thumbup1
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« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2021, 10:15:28 PM +0100 »

Ahh, too bad, missed run 1 because our ETCC planning took too long and couldn't get a handle on the Alfa for run 2 without any real track knowledge. Then spinned early in the race and stood very dangerously against the driving direction. That's why I rather pressed ESC before I spoil someone's race because of it. Too bad for the championship, is a nice series.

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« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2021, 08:08:26 AM +0100 »

A good evening, a well-filled grid, a few fights, whatever the result ... Smiley Wink
Enjoyed exchanging paint and wing mirrors with you Chris  thumbup1

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« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2021, 09:33:11 AM +0100 »

Result_Race 1

Result_Race 2


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« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2021, 10:11:20 AM +0100 »

Grats to the podiums and class winners. I do enjoy these multi class battles with vastly different cars and last night's hostilities were no exception.

First, thanks to Hristo for his advice regarding my steering problems in GTL  in a spell of unofficial practice on Tuesday . All of which did nothing to improve my lap times. H was offering driving advice/tips regarding technique with the lumbering Jag and could see that I was fighting the car.

I had been suffering/struggling with snap oversteer/instability under braking and then understeer mid corner. In my attempts to dial in correction for all of this I had been actually going in totally the wrong direction and it was Hristo's observation about my wheel rotation vs the setup wheel ratio that opened the door to a more stable car.......thanks H.
During the 2 races last night I was gaining confidence ( which I had totally lost recently ) in the braking and cornering  and actually had my first ? ever satisfying race in a MINI!!!  whisper it quietly but was almost enjoying the car after 20 laps  Wink

Race 2 and I had to use a car that I had been avoiding and this seemed as good a track as any to do it.
The super tanker Jag was a totally different car, but with steering that actually works now, I was in with a fighting chance. As the race progressed and I avoided multiple Falcons ( or maybe it was the same car many times??) I was slowly getting faster and actually leading my class. OK there were only 2 Jags and we were guarding the rear of the field  Roll Eyes.  Then with 2 laps to go I missed my downshift at the end of the back straight and went from 4th to 1st, with the resulting spin stuffing me nose first into the wall. Andy, in the 2nd Jag, cruised past to take the class win with his usual measured drive. 

The steering still feels different to my old Logitech G25, but thanks to Hristo things are getting much better.  Just the random FF to sort now, last night there was zero FF in Practice, but it surfaced as we switched to Quali Huh  wacko

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« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2021, 10:22:15 AM +0100 »

Thanks Kurt  thumbup1
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« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2021, 11:45:54 AM +0100 »

Grats to the podiums and class winners. I do enjoy these multi class battles with vastly different cars and last night's hostilities were no exception.

First, thanks to Hristo for his advice regarding my steering problems in GTL  in a spell of unofficial practice on Tuesday . All of which did nothing to improve my lap times. H was offering driving advice/tips regarding technique with the lumbering Jag and could see that I was fighting the car.

I had been suffering/struggling with snap oversteer/instability under braking and then understeer mid corner. In my attempts to dial in correction for all of this I had been actually going in totally the wrong direction and it was Hristo's observation about my wheel rotation vs the setup wheel ratio that opened the door to a more stable car.......thanks H.


You're welcome, Clive, but the numbers I suggested for in-game setup were maybe a bit too low, now that I'm thinking about it. It turns out I'm using 362 degrees of rotation, not 460 as I thought, and usually between 19:1 and 22:1 ratio in garage setup window.

If I remember correctly, you said you are using 290 degrees of rotation, so the 22:1 on my end would translate to about 17-18 on yours. So anything between 16-18 should be OK. It's a personal preference of course, depending whether you like to turn the wheel more or not.

It's probably your lack of (well) functioning FFB that prevents you from feeling how much steering is necessary to reach the limit but not go over it? I have no idea why it keeps getting disabled for some sessions though, what a mystery...

As for my race, I tried my best in race 1 to fight off the quicker (on the straights) Minis of Geoffers and AGM, after making a great start to take the lead. I lost the lead temporarily a few times, only to regain it by braking earlier and take a better line through the next corner. It was a matter of time though, before both of them overtook me and started pulling away. Only a mistake from either of them would've given me a chance and what do you know - it's exactly what happened when they made contact and I was through into first again. I wish Geoffers didn't wait for AGM, so we would have a fight for the victory, but I understand why he did it. From there on it was just 3-4 laps until the finish and I just cruised to take the win.

In race 2 it was impossible to challenge the Falcons with the Cortina, but making it through a melee that happened ahead on lap 1 moved me up to 4th, which I kept for most of the race, until AGM finally caught up to me and overtook me effortlessly. 5th was pretty much the best possible I could hope for.

Congrats to Daz for the win in the 2nd race and all the rest for bringing it home!

Overall very enjoyable races at one of my favorite little tracks, which I have fond memories of from my GPL days. One thing I don't get for this championship is why I still have 2 unused Jaguars, even though I drove them twice at Aintree. Did we start with 4 car uses in that class?
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