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  • U4SNm - Valencia GP: October 31, 2006
October 31, 2006, 09:00:09 PM +0000 - Valencia (GP) - UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Masters
Driver
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
Porsche 993 GT2 NGT 1 1:32.628
95.918mph
1 40:42.375
90.943mph
25 1:34.064
94.454mph
Dunlop +60.0kg
james
 Racin24-7
Porsche 993 GT2 NGT 3 +1.383
94.507mph
2 +14.168
90.419mph
25 1:34.908
93.614mph
Dunlop +60.0kg
greg130
 28CD Motorsports
Porsche 993 GT2 NGT 4 +1.399
94.491mph
3 +14.611
90.403mph
25 1:35.002
93.521mph
Dunlop +60.0kg
Martin Steinmetz
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 360 GTC NGT 5 +1.615
94.275mph
4 +18.485
90.260mph
25 1:34.768
93.752mph
Pirelli +30.0kg
CeeJay
 GTN Drivers Club
Ferrari 360 GTC NGT 2 +1.314
94.577mph
5 +18.611
90.256mph
25 1:34.796
93.725mph
Pirelli +30.0kg
Radius
 Racin24-7
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 6 +1.772
94.118mph
6 +31.048
89.802mph
25 1:35.411
93.120mph
Michelin +50.0kg
locutos ukgtr
 28CD Motorsports
Porsche 993 GT2 NGT 8 +1.968
93.923mph
7 +37.356
89.573mph
25 1:35.580
92.956mph
Dunlop +60.0kg
Dan Minton
 Team RVS
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 14 +2.952
92.956mph
8 +50.045
89.117mph
25 1:35.678
92.861mph
Michelin +50.0kg
baracus250gt
 Racin24-7
Ferrari 360 GTC NGT 16 +2.992
92.917mph
9 +54.019
88.975mph
25 1:35.713
92.827mph
Pirelli +30.0kg
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
TVR Tuscan T400R NGT 13 +2.847
93.058mph
10 +55.806
88.912mph
25 1:36.328
92.234mph
Dunlop -40.0kg
Truetom
 Legends Racing
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 12 +2.757
93.146mph
11 +1:24.218
87.912mph
25 1:36.272
92.288mph
Pirelli +50.0kg
Aagramn
 Team Shark Junior
BMW M3 GTR NGT 15 +2.989
92.920mph
12 +1:25.879
87.854mph
25 1:36.827
91.759mph
Michelin +80.0kg
NoSpeed
 RS Motorsport
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 9 +2.240
93.653mph
13 +1:27.756
87.789mph
25 1:36.091
92.461mph
Michelin +50.0kg
Paul968
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 7 +1.888
94.002mph
14 +1:31.641
87.654mph
25 1:35.433
93.099mph
Michelin +50.0kg
popabawa
 Legends Racing
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 19 +3.320
92.599mph
15 +1:34.866
87.543mph
25 1:37.420
91.200mph
Pirelli +50.0kg
LEUVEN
 CBFR
Gillet Vertigo Streiff NGT 17 +3.101
92.811mph
16 +1L
87.252mph
24 1:36.708
91.872mph
Dunlop -70.0kg
mo
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 20 +3.640
92.291mph
17 +9.150
86.927mph
24 1:36.132
92.422mph
Michelin +50.0kg
Carl Hart
 Racin24-7
Ferrari 360 GTC NGT 11 +2.652
93.248mph
18 +55.696
85.308mph
24 1:35.472
93.061mph
Pirelli +30.0kg
PaulW
 Legends Racing
BMW M3 GTR NGT 23 +5.374
90.659mph
19 +1:29.740
84.162mph
24 1:38.983
89.760mph
Michelin +80.0kg
Filipe Galego
 Sonic Racing Team
Ferrari 360 GTC NGT 24 +6.266
89.841mph
20 +2L
82.565mph
23 1:39.149
89.610mph
Pirelli +30.0kg
Pedro[PL]
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 360 GTC NGT 10 +2.423
93.473mph
21 +45.428
81.077mph
23 1:35.724
92.816mph
Pirelli +30.0kg
enz13_gt
 
Mosler MT900R NGT 25 +8.513
87.845mph
22 23 1:38.766
89.957mph
fuel
Dunlop -20.0kg
ivansmiven
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 360 GTC NGT 22 +5.286
90.740mph
23 +3L 22 1:37.870
90.781mph
unknown
Pirelli +30.0kg
Luis Branco
 Sonic Racing Team
Ferrari 360 GTC NGT 18 +3.306
92.613mph
24 +12L 13 1:36.374
92.190mph
unknown
Pirelli +30.0kg
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 21 +3.828
92.112mph
+25L 0 ---
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DQ
Pirelli +50.0kg

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 1065s

Aagramn is following NoSpeed into the final turn and as they brake both cars get out of shape resulting in some contact. Both cars are slowed and Pedro who is following behind manages to just squeeze through as the two cars bounce off each other.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 1404s

Leuven is chasing Aagramn and as they enter turn 5 Aagramn gets a bit out of shape and runs wide onto the kerbing. Leuven moves to the inside but Aagramn gets even more out of shape on the kerbing and slides into Leuven's path resulting in contact.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 2300s

Paul968 has closed up on Popabawa and has been pressuring him for several corners. As they exit T5 Pops stays to the left of the track and Paul moves to the right, which is the outside line for the following left hander T6.
As they reach the braking point Popabawa moves across to the righthand side of the track to get a wider line for the turn. Paul is planning on braking late and going around the outside and cannot slow in time and taps Pops in the rear sending him off.

This incident is complicated by the fact that the racing line does move across the track at this point and Pops took the corner as he had done on previous laps.
I'm almost inclined to view this one as a racing incident except for two things:
Popabawa'a move across the track is quite sudden and, even though he mostly follows the racing line, this is not an advisable thing to do when being challenged from behind.
This was Paul's first time behind Pops for T6 and should have exercised more caution until he had seen what kind of lines Pops was using.

  • Paul968caution — contact with Popabawa
  • popabawacaution — choose a definite racing line before the braking point


Server replay time: 2507s

Truetom is rejoining in the final curve after having an off and cuts into the path of the approaching Aagramn. Good foresight and some heavy braking by Aagramn is all that prevents an accident here as Truetom moves further and further across the track onto the racing line.
Drivers are reminded that when rejoining the track after going off line, you must stay off the racing line until back up to speed.

In this case it was Truetom's haste to get back up to speed, causing him some power oversteer, and it was this that moved him across onto the racing line. So I am reducing what would normally be a penalty to a warning.

  • Truetomwarning — careless rejoin
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 2530s

Truetom goes wide in the chicane and ends up sliding across the gravel. Something in the gravel trap flicks his car up and sideways into the path of Aagramn and there is side contact resulting in Aagramn going off.

  • Racing incident

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GTR2
NGT
1:32.628
95.918mph
Jeffrey
Qualifying
Porsche 993 GT2
+60.0kg
October 31, 2006, 09:00:09 PM +0000
U4SNm
GTR2
NGT
1:34.064
94.454mph
Jeffrey
Race
Porsche 993 GT2
+60.0kg
October 31, 2006, 09:00:09 PM +0000
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« Reply #30 on: October 31, 2006, 08:11:30 PM +0000 »

Good luck everyone for this new season.

I suspect I'm going to be near the back of the pack in the Masters, but hoping for some really good racing. Have decided upon the TVR because it's soo much fun. Will have to get painting a skin for the next skin pack so I can drive in team colours.
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« Reply #31 on: October 31, 2006, 09:30:13 PM +0000 »

Great start for the new season for me, it wouldnt let me join the grid  Angry  I got a load of blue numbers appear next to everyones name and a greyed out 'Drive' button  :'(

Hope you all had a good race.

Enjoyed watching an epic scrap between TT and Shark, nice driving guys  Cool
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« Reply #32 on: October 31, 2006, 09:31:27 PM +0000 »

Have you changed anything else on your PC recently, like drivers or BIOS settings?

not changed anything, came home tonight switched it on and this, done a reinstall, changed dx levels and it just keeps ctd when i press drive

by re-install u should remove reg entries, if any left behind, and re-install to a different location, create a new profile etc.

Is this happening on other standard tracks as well? online and/or offline CTD?

Are ur other games ok? re-install ur gfx drivers (or get latest ones)

Happens offline and on, i can do anything in the game except drive, veiw Ai etc, but it just wont let me on the track, I've reinstalled gfx drivers, defragged, reg cleaned the lot, I'm completely gutted, I cant begin to say how disappointed I feel right now Sad
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« Reply #33 on: October 31, 2006, 09:50:19 PM +0000 »

Well had a good race, got up into 7th i think and then ran low on fuel! Had to pit and then got a stop and go penelty and ended up 18th! Not a good start to the season. I'll remember to put slightly more fuel in the next race. Grats to Ruskus for the win!
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« Reply #34 on: October 31, 2006, 09:51:13 PM +0000 »

I took the GT2, and it was fast in qually.

I was afraid for the race. I had no idea how the car would handle. I took 90L of fuel, which was for 53 minutes. Expected the weight to cost loads more fuel, but I was left with 20L afterwards, so I had an additional weight penalty Smiley.
In lap 1 Claus went off and I had some breathing space, as he probably would have been knocking on my door in the beginning of the race. The first laps I created a gap, so I could preserve my engine.
With 7 minutes left some tyres were gone, and 3 minutes later, the other half. Dunno in what order, front first or rear first Huh.

By the look of the finishing times, there were some close battles.
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« Reply #35 on: October 31, 2006, 09:51:39 PM +0000 »

That was hard! As I suspected, I was a fair way off the pace but a reasonably consistent drive brought me in 15th I think.

Mission accomplished; didn't get lapped  Grin
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« Reply #36 on: October 31, 2006, 09:54:50 PM +0000 »

Great racing guys. That's the most enjoyable online race I've had in ages. Was really close and the ballast pack really helped bring the cars closer together (well apart from the GT2  Tongue). I'm really glad I chose the TVR, it was just the most beautiful car to drive. Yes maybe lacking down the straights but I was having so much fun in the corners I didn't really care and ended up a very pleasing 10th position. Lag/stutter was gone tonight for me too which is great news. Cars were rock solid and was really nice to race so close with people.

Now I just need to get that TVR skin painted!  Grin

Grid was a bit screwed on both servers apparently. Hope that's that track only, but I guess not much we can do about it but be nice to each other to readjust where it puts us on the formation lap.

Well done Jeff on the win, great start.
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« Reply #37 on: October 31, 2006, 10:05:06 PM +0000 »

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« Reply #38 on: October 31, 2006, 10:06:34 PM +0000 »

Great race ,  Hadnt driven the RSR with the ballast and noticed the difference .. Found it harder on turn in and seemed to push midcorner which showed i my quali time which was a second slower than the pre-season fun race.first First few laps laps were great with five or six of us diving every which way.. great driving!   Made a mistake and clipped someone and turned them round not sure who but sorry.
Had a good scrap with Baracus who had the legs on me but managed to stay ahead after he spun and brought it home eighth.
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« Reply #39 on: October 31, 2006, 10:23:36 PM +0000 »



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« Reply #40 on: October 31, 2006, 10:31:21 PM +0000 »

What a terrible fantastic race!

I qualified 10th which was a surprise to me as I felt prepared. This unfortunately confirms my assumptions, that my GTR pace was due to poor physics Sad Anyway - my race setup was rock steady and I hoped to gain some positions in race.

As this was my first race with GTR2 I tried to be conservative at the beginning. Strong pressure from behind and several minor mistakes of mine made me change my mind.

Midrace I had some incredible fight with Aagramn. Man... he really rules! Fight ended with my face being sore - here meaning that I lost my front wing. Quick (58s Smiley) visit to the pits. Then another one - stop and go for pitlane speeding. And another one - as the computer failed to notice me the first time.

Rest of the race was very quick as I hoped to get into first 20th Cheesy I even "unlapped" some guys that lapped me while I was in the pits.

OH LORD! Give me my MOTEC back!!!
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« Reply #41 on: October 31, 2006, 10:33:06 PM +0000 »

That was a cracking race. I think its the hardest I have ever driven for a P9 finish!!
Unbelievable pace from CJ and very unlucky to lose it on lap 1 as I think he would have made Ruskus' life more interesting there.
I took waaaay too much fuel and had my radiator opening too much but I dont think it would have made that much difference in the long run.

Absolutely full-on race between Simon and I for the first half of the race and then Dan in the second half... I nearly had him under braking but pushed a bit too hard on the pedal in a slighlty panicky moment, spun and he got his 5 second gap back Smiley   - Then I had Simon on my case again until the chequer. Sorry Simon if you think I should have let you through after I totally screwed the last turn up but I managed to get it into 1st and get it pointing the right way. No warning either but I think GTR2 is a bit leniant on the C/T warnings.

I think I need to do some serious setup work in my 360 (or is it my driving hehehe)

Looking forward to GT's next - with another bath full of water for weight ballast Smiley

Great pace by all - really good safe driving so well done everyone. Especially Rus - grats m8
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« Reply #42 on: October 31, 2006, 10:50:11 PM +0000 »

Good race, very hard work with the GT2, but it does seem to have the edge on the other cars

the race went well up until about lap 15 when the tyres started to overheat/wear, Greg started to close the gap which hovered around a second until the end of the race, which came as a relief   Smiley

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« Reply #43 on: October 31, 2006, 11:23:18 PM +0000 »

Very tough race. Took the M3, was OK but as the tyres got worn it was very difficult to get it's nose into the slow corners. Qualified 15th, but lost a place due to the grid bug. Had some good fights, especially with Leuven & Pedro. Had to watch my mirrors very carefully before taking the apex, really wasn't sure how much better the lighter cars would be on the brakes. Was hampered slightly with pedal problems. Brake spiked a couple times, and once when I floored the throttle nothing happened, letting NoSpeed past. Need to check a couple incidents on the replay. Quite pleased with 12th considering the quality of the field.

Think the ballast pack is a big success, it's brought the cars much closer together. Could do with a little tweaking though, the GT2 dominated both races tonight.


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« Reply #44 on: October 31, 2006, 11:49:37 PM +0000 »

Think the ballast pack is a big success, it's brought the cars much closer together. Could do with a little tweaking though, the GT2 dominated both races tonight.
Definitely, big improvement over the 360/911 dominated GTR races. Staring at the back end of yet another 360 was getting a bit old! A nice, neat solution though I've never felt penalising people switching was quite right before. Arguable either way but surely not neccessary now that the cars are more balanced.

I was off pace all night (only got the game this afternoon) but what did you think of the M3's ballast Aagramn? I lack experience in GTR 2 at the mo' but it felt tough in the twisty bits and then also struggled to pull away from everything but the TVR on the straights.

Great fun overall, heck of a tough field. And there isn't a single Spanish race track I enjoy driving laugh
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