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  • U4SNa - Valencia: October 31, 2006
October 31, 2006, 09:05:22 PM +0000 - Valencia (GP) - UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Academy
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
longskater1969
 28CD Motorsports
Porsche 993 GT2 NGT 1 1:34.641
93.878mph
1 35:14.434
88.241mph
21 1:35.853
92.691mph
Dunlop +60.0kg
Jamera
 28CD Motorsports
Porsche 993 GT2 NGT 3 +0.956
92.939mph
2 +2.082
88.154mph
21 1:36.423
92.143mph
Dunlop +60.0kg
jan duijs
 
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 5 +1.541
92.374mph
3 +16.470
87.559mph
21 1:37.095
91.505mph
Michelin +50.0kg
pribeiro
 Ghostspeed
Gillet Vertigo Streiff NGT 7 +2.351
91.603mph
4 +22.919
87.294mph
21 1:37.460
91.163mph
Dunlop -70.0kg
Paul Richards
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 360 GTC NGT 4 +1.344
92.564mph
5 +23.408
87.274mph
21 1:37.324
91.290mph
Pirelli +30.0kg
Reign Man
 
TVR Tuscan T400R NGT 8 +2.578
91.389mph
6 +26.616
87.144mph
21 1:37.909
90.745mph
Dunlop -40.0kg
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Nissan 350Z NGT 9 +2.755
91.223mph
7 +27.507
87.107mph
21 1:37.793
90.852mph
Dunlop -50.0kg
purdie
 Racin24-7
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 2 +0.888
93.005mph
8 +28.143
87.082mph
21 1:37.051
91.547mph
Michelin +50.0kg
picnic
 Team Shark
TVR Tuscan T400R NGT 10 +2.812
91.169mph
9 +29.304
87.034mph
21 1:37.089
91.511mph
Dunlop -40.0kg
Munkez
 
Ferrari 360 GTC NGT 12 +3.685
90.360mph
10 +45.301
86.390mph
21 1:37.918
90.736mph
Pirelli +30.0kg
EdamSpeed
 
Mosler MT900R NGT 16 +5.402
88.809mph
11 +1:03.280
85.677mph
21 1:38.325
90.361mph
Dunlop -20.0kg
Gomes Silva
 Sonic Racing Team
Ferrari 360 GTC NGT 13 +3.787
90.266mph
12 +1:05.748
85.580mph
21 1:38.980
89.763mph
Pirelli +30.0kg
Don
 Legends Racing
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 15 +4.438
89.673mph
13 +1:07.781
85.500mph
21 1:38.482
90.217mph
Pirelli +50.0kg
Darren Seal
 
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 6 +1.983
91.951mph
14 +1:20.676
84.998mph
21 1:37.313
91.300mph
Michelin +50.0kg
Rob Clenshaw
 Team Shark Junior
Ferrari 360 GTC NGT 11 +3.331
90.686mph
15 +1:24.555
84.848mph
21 1:38.862
89.870mph
Pirelli +30.0kg
Oilseal
 Team Oldie Racing
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 18 +6.736
87.640mph
16 +1L
83.617mph
20 1:40.347
88.540mph
Pirelli +50.0kg
silver53
 Team Shark Junior
Ferrari 360 GTC NGT 21 +7.146
87.287mph
17 +29.402
82.475mph
20 1:40.951
88.010mph
Pirelli +30.0kg
Damac
 
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 17 +6.300
88.019mph
18 +2L
79.357mph
19 1:40.579
88.336mph
Pirelli +50.0kg
merlinthepike
 
TVR Tuscan T400R NGT 20 +6.956
87.451mph
19 +1:16.994
76.585mph
19 1:40.235
88.639mph
Dunlop -40.0kg
Rob Bywater "Kerb Crawlers"
 Kerb Crawlers
Nissan 350Z NGT 19 +6.904
87.495mph
20 +8L 13 1:42.179
86.952mph
unknown
Dunlop -50.0kg
Edza
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 22 +8.085
86.489mph
21 +9L 12 1:41.757
87.313mph
unknown
Pirelli +50.0kg
will16v
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 360 GTC NGT 22 +10L 11 1:40.426
88.470mph
unknown
Pirelli +30.0kg
Generalpain
 28CD Motorsports
Porsche 993 GT2 NGT 14 +4.035
90.039mph
23 +18L 3 1:43.967
85.457mph
unknown
Dunlop +60.0kg

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 586s

Rob Clenshaw runs wide at the last turn. As he rejoins from the gravel he gets on the power too hard and the back end steps out, collecting Don just as he is passing.

Given the nature of the GTR2 sticky gravel traps I can't fault Rob's intention to escape the gravel there or the angle at which he rejoins. He might have taken more care however to back off the throttle somewhat after leaving the gravel, although this is not easy. Don should perhaps have also used a bit caution and left more of a gap when passing Rob, although Don had run a bit wide into the corner. As a result I feel a caution for Rob is all that is needed.

  • Rob Clenshawcaution — Lack of care using power when rejoining from gravel


Server replay time: 1258s

Keysersoze is approaching the final corner, with Demonic Dan behind and about to lap him. Demonic Dan is not close enough to pass before the corner, and makes a small mistake, running wide and losing momentum. Keysersoze is left perhaps 10 car lengths ahead, and decides to carry on rather than lift to let Dan past. Dan then spins at T1.

Dan felt that Keysersoze should have let him past on the straight, in fact he wanted him to do it before the last corner. The trouble was, he wasn't anywhere near close enough to expect the other car to lift in either situation. You need to be within a few cars lengths at most, or else you make it too difficult for the other car to maintain reasonable speed - they have races to run too remember. Keysersoze didn't hold Dan up at all, and is blameless in this.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 1604s

Keysersoze runs very wide at T2 and as he gets up to speed Dyno Daz comes round the corner to lap him. KS doesn't let him past here, and in fact it is not until T7 when KS runs wide again that DD gets past.

Given how close T3 was when DD appeared behind KS, I don't think it was reasonable to expect KS to lift there. He didn't actually leave the track fully and T3 is a tough corner to let someone past on the inside. I do think though that KS could have eased off a touch after this to let DD past, perhaps on the run to T6 or at least on the exit there. On the request of DD though, and considering his relative inexperience in the league I will just apply a warning to KS to make more of an effort to let lapping cars by.


Server replay time: 1654s

Dyno Daz has just lapped Keysersoze. At the next corner, Keysersoze totally misses his braking point and rear-ends Dan. No excuse really.

  • Damac (keysersoze)penalty — Avoidable rear end shunt — 2 places lost
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded

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« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2006, 11:00:30 PM +0000 »

I went on the server earlier, it all works fine as far as I can see.... I could not tell much difference to be honest with the ballast on the cars, but i am using a joystick and only have buttons for throttle/brake control.

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« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2006, 12:02:50 AM +0000 »

but i am using a joystick and only have buttons for throttle/brake control.

I'm amazed you can be competitive with a joystick.  I Am Not Worthy

Once you get a wheel the rest of us will have no chance  Grin
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« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2006, 01:07:45 PM +0000 »

Just noticed it's a 35 rather than 40 minute race, with the "missing" 5 minutes being added onto the backend of qualifying.

Just curious as to why we've got a slightly shorter race than the "Masters"??  Is it related to lag issues between sessions between the 2 servers??
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« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2006, 01:23:51 PM +0000 »

Just curious as to why we've got a slightly shorter race than the "Masters"??  Is it related to lag issues between sessions between the 2 servers??

Yes. We wanted to stagger the race starts so that there's no danger of one server changing session whilst the other one is starting the race, because of the lag it causes, but I still wanted them to end at the same time so that drivers from both can meet up in the lobby immediately afterwards if they so wish.
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« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2006, 01:47:31 PM +0000 »

I would have thought a 5 minute gap to chat about the race before the academy guys arrive would be a good thing. Seems a shame to drop the 5 minutes racing since it would appear that 40 minutes is a better test of tyre conservancy.
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« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2006, 02:19:05 PM +0000 »

we lose a minute practise! us academy drivers need all the practise we can get! lol  Cheesy

shud be a good season opener!  Grin
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« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2006, 02:38:29 PM +0000 »

we lose a minute practise! us academy drivers need all the practise we can get! lol  Cheesy

You get an extra 5 minutes of qually though which should help make that session a bit less hectic.
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« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2006, 03:47:56 PM +0000 »

oh i see, and five mins less in race. cool  Cool
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« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2006, 03:49:31 PM +0000 »

Yes. We wanted to stagger the race starts so that there's no danger of one server changing session whilst the other one is starting the race, because of the lag it causes, but I still wanted them to end at the same time so that drivers from both can meet up in the lobby immediately afterwards if they so wish.

You're assuming that people join the server immediately after it is started. The session doesn't actually start till someone joins, so if someone joins server 1 at 0 minutes but no one joins server 2 till 2 minutes later then there is another 2 minute gap between them.
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« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2006, 03:55:10 PM +0000 »

There are other timings involved too, but 5 mins should ensure the two don't start together. There is no warm up any more so the 2 min windows there has gone. Race 1 should be well underway before race 2 finishes Q2.
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« Reply #25 on: October 31, 2006, 03:57:53 PM +0000 »

My apologies but I'm gonna miss this and next race as I'm still stuck working in ireland, really gutted  Sad Was hoping season might have started a bit later so i wouldn't have missed the first 2 races  :'( Defo back for 3rd race. Good luck all, and at least 1 reserve will get a slot tonight.

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« Reply #26 on: October 31, 2006, 04:33:52 PM +0000 »

You're assuming that people join the server immediately after it is started. The session doesn't actually start till someone joins, so if someone joins server 1 at 0 minutes but no one joins server 2 till 2 minutes later then there is another 2 minute gap between them.

When have you ever known one of our servers be up for a whole minute before people were piling in? Cheesy
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« Reply #27 on: October 31, 2006, 06:40:00 PM +0000 »

Good luck all.
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« Reply #28 on: October 31, 2006, 08:01:22 PM +0000 »

good luck all . Grin.gerald
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« Reply #29 on: October 31, 2006, 08:37:04 PM +0000 »

i keep getting 'booted as possible cheat'Huh?
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