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  • U4SNa - Valencia: October 31, 2006
October 31, 2006, 09:05:22 PM +0000 - Valencia (GP) - UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Academy
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
longskater1969
 28CD Motorsports
Porsche 993 GT2 NGT 1 1:34.641
93.878mph
1 35:14.434
88.241mph
21 1:35.853
92.691mph
Dunlop +60.0kg
Jamera
 28CD Motorsports
Porsche 993 GT2 NGT 3 +0.956
92.939mph
2 +2.082
88.154mph
21 1:36.423
92.143mph
Dunlop +60.0kg
jan duijs
 
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 5 +1.541
92.374mph
3 +16.470
87.559mph
21 1:37.095
91.505mph
Michelin +50.0kg
pribeiro
 Ghostspeed
Gillet Vertigo Streiff NGT 7 +2.351
91.603mph
4 +22.919
87.294mph
21 1:37.460
91.163mph
Dunlop -70.0kg
Paul Richards
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 360 GTC NGT 4 +1.344
92.564mph
5 +23.408
87.274mph
21 1:37.324
91.290mph
Pirelli +30.0kg
Reign Man
 
TVR Tuscan T400R NGT 8 +2.578
91.389mph
6 +26.616
87.144mph
21 1:37.909
90.745mph
Dunlop -40.0kg
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Nissan 350Z NGT 9 +2.755
91.223mph
7 +27.507
87.107mph
21 1:37.793
90.852mph
Dunlop -50.0kg
purdie
 Racin24-7
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 2 +0.888
93.005mph
8 +28.143
87.082mph
21 1:37.051
91.547mph
Michelin +50.0kg
picnic
 Team Shark
TVR Tuscan T400R NGT 10 +2.812
91.169mph
9 +29.304
87.034mph
21 1:37.089
91.511mph
Dunlop -40.0kg
Munkez
 
Ferrari 360 GTC NGT 12 +3.685
90.360mph
10 +45.301
86.390mph
21 1:37.918
90.736mph
Pirelli +30.0kg
EdamSpeed
 
Mosler MT900R NGT 16 +5.402
88.809mph
11 +1:03.280
85.677mph
21 1:38.325
90.361mph
Dunlop -20.0kg
Gomes Silva
 Sonic Racing Team
Ferrari 360 GTC NGT 13 +3.787
90.266mph
12 +1:05.748
85.580mph
21 1:38.980
89.763mph
Pirelli +30.0kg
Don
 Legends Racing
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 15 +4.438
89.673mph
13 +1:07.781
85.500mph
21 1:38.482
90.217mph
Pirelli +50.0kg
Darren Seal
 
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 6 +1.983
91.951mph
14 +1:20.676
84.998mph
21 1:37.313
91.300mph
Michelin +50.0kg
Rob Clenshaw
 Team Shark Junior
Ferrari 360 GTC NGT 11 +3.331
90.686mph
15 +1:24.555
84.848mph
21 1:38.862
89.870mph
Pirelli +30.0kg
Oilseal
 Team Oldie Racing
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 18 +6.736
87.640mph
16 +1L
83.617mph
20 1:40.347
88.540mph
Pirelli +50.0kg
silver53
 Team Shark Junior
Ferrari 360 GTC NGT 21 +7.146
87.287mph
17 +29.402
82.475mph
20 1:40.951
88.010mph
Pirelli +30.0kg
Damac
 
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 17 +6.300
88.019mph
18 +2L
79.357mph
19 1:40.579
88.336mph
Pirelli +50.0kg
merlinthepike
 
TVR Tuscan T400R NGT 20 +6.956
87.451mph
19 +1:16.994
76.585mph
19 1:40.235
88.639mph
Dunlop -40.0kg
Rob Bywater "Kerb Crawlers"
 Kerb Crawlers
Nissan 350Z NGT 19 +6.904
87.495mph
20 +8L 13 1:42.179
86.952mph
unknown
Dunlop -50.0kg
Edza
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 22 +8.085
86.489mph
21 +9L 12 1:41.757
87.313mph
unknown
Pirelli +50.0kg
will16v
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 360 GTC NGT 22 +10L 11 1:40.426
88.470mph
unknown
Pirelli +30.0kg
Generalpain
 28CD Motorsports
Porsche 993 GT2 NGT 14 +4.035
90.039mph
23 +18L 3 1:43.967
85.457mph
unknown
Dunlop +60.0kg

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 586s

Rob Clenshaw runs wide at the last turn. As he rejoins from the gravel he gets on the power too hard and the back end steps out, collecting Don just as he is passing.

Given the nature of the GTR2 sticky gravel traps I can't fault Rob's intention to escape the gravel there or the angle at which he rejoins. He might have taken more care however to back off the throttle somewhat after leaving the gravel, although this is not easy. Don should perhaps have also used a bit caution and left more of a gap when passing Rob, although Don had run a bit wide into the corner. As a result I feel a caution for Rob is all that is needed.

  • Rob Clenshawcaution — Lack of care using power when rejoining from gravel


Server replay time: 1258s

Keysersoze is approaching the final corner, with Demonic Dan behind and about to lap him. Demonic Dan is not close enough to pass before the corner, and makes a small mistake, running wide and losing momentum. Keysersoze is left perhaps 10 car lengths ahead, and decides to carry on rather than lift to let Dan past. Dan then spins at T1.

Dan felt that Keysersoze should have let him past on the straight, in fact he wanted him to do it before the last corner. The trouble was, he wasn't anywhere near close enough to expect the other car to lift in either situation. You need to be within a few cars lengths at most, or else you make it too difficult for the other car to maintain reasonable speed - they have races to run too remember. Keysersoze didn't hold Dan up at all, and is blameless in this.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 1604s

Keysersoze runs very wide at T2 and as he gets up to speed Dyno Daz comes round the corner to lap him. KS doesn't let him past here, and in fact it is not until T7 when KS runs wide again that DD gets past.

Given how close T3 was when DD appeared behind KS, I don't think it was reasonable to expect KS to lift there. He didn't actually leave the track fully and T3 is a tough corner to let someone past on the inside. I do think though that KS could have eased off a touch after this to let DD past, perhaps on the run to T6 or at least on the exit there. On the request of DD though, and considering his relative inexperience in the league I will just apply a warning to KS to make more of an effort to let lapping cars by.


Server replay time: 1654s

Dyno Daz has just lapped Keysersoze. At the next corner, Keysersoze totally misses his braking point and rear-ends Dan. No excuse really.

  • Damac (keysersoze)penalty — Avoidable rear end shunt — 2 places lost
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded

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« Reply #45 on: October 31, 2006, 10:25:41 PM +0000 »

black flag to start with then 2 pitlane speed fines (manical) lol
roll on the next 1.gonna be some mega testing before that 1...
congrats too the winners and appologies if i got in anyones way
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« Reply #46 on: October 31, 2006, 10:34:05 PM +0000 »

Congrats to the podium and thanks to the server guys for arranging the league.

It was a great race for me up to 22 mins.  I was in 5th and having a fantastic battle with pribeiro and the closely following pack.  Fantastic driving pribeiro, you were all over me in the corners but my porker had a bit too much speed down the straights.  Then my racing world caved in...  Coming up to Curva 11 I could see MerlinThePike had spun and was sitting on the side of the track.  As I went to turn in my steering wheel decided to come off in my hands Sad  As you can see from the replay my porker just went straight ahead into the parked Merlin.  Sorry mate there was nothing I could do to avoid you and I'm really sorry for the damage I caused.  surrender

I then spent the next few laps struggling to get my wheel fixed back to the desk.  I don't think I slowed anyone up during this period, but sorry if I did.

After a few more laps had passed I was back in the low 1:37s. But then I came across a backmarker who proceeded to block me at every attempt at passing.  When I finally got passed he then punted me off at the next corner.  nono

After this my car was too damaged to be competitive and by this point I had lost heart in racing, but I soldiered on to finish 14th.

Better luck next time  Grin

Let's hope the G25 has better clamps  Tongue
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« Reply #47 on: October 31, 2006, 10:35:04 PM +0000 »

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Close racing all the way, quite a long train of us, there was some sort of drama going on which resulted in me tapping Paul Richards (Sorry) and i think it was around that time a broke sharply mid corner, i was sliding a bit and had to do something which resulted in gizmo tapping me in the rear end (sorry bout that also  Undecided).

No need to apologise mate I actually thought it may well have been my fault. Stuck a wheel of following a spinning car - note to self must look at track not car in gravel in future  Grin  - which slow me up. Considering how close it was it was pretty clean all in all.
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« Reply #48 on: October 31, 2006, 10:39:34 PM +0000 »

Well, that was a good race! Wasn't expecting much, to be honest, as I'd only done about 3 laps in the Mosler, and about the same amount at Valencia before tonight.

That being said, I was able to get enough practice in to be reasonably competitive. Actually improved my times in the race over qualifying by about 3 seconds! Smiley

Had a great battle with Gomes and Don. Don was threatening me at every turn so I let him past Tongue to have a go at Gomes, but then we encountered the recently spun Rob Clenshaw, who was trying to rejoin at the final corner. Poor Don was already comitted to the corner, and smacked into Rob, and I ended up trying to go between them. Sadly I also had nowhere to go, and hit Rob myself - sorry dude Sad Insult to injury springs to mind.

I'm rather glad I didn't take a Fezza or a Porker. I figured most people would, and I was right. I wanted something different. Smiley It's not bad - got some nice turn in at the front - but it lacks the overall pace of the Porkers and Fezza. Has a little bit of trouble heating the front tyres. Might swap to something else for the next race, but not sure yet. Might keep plugging away, as there's more to be found in the setup.
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« Reply #49 on: October 31, 2006, 10:40:39 PM +0000 »

But then I came across a backmarker who proceeded to block me at every attempt at passing.  When I finally got passed he then punted me off at the next corner.  nono

Make sure you report it properly using the link on the event's results page.
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« Reply #50 on: October 31, 2006, 10:44:35 PM +0000 »

Well, what can I say, great race although gutted to run wide on last turn 2nd to last lap giving Dan the lead back.

That 993 drives like a 3/4 full bath on wheels  Grin

Please don't add any more ballast to it, it really is a VERY tricky drive to master, but somehow quite rewarding once you can predict which way the water is going to slop next.

I think over the season with some of the more complex, twisty circuits the speed advantage will be more than negated, you need to brake 1.5km before you want to turn lol

Anyway great race all and thanks to the back markers for their awareness and courtesy

Dan, good win mate......................Next time!!  Tongue
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« Reply #51 on: October 31, 2006, 10:45:50 PM +0000 »

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No need to apologise mate I actually thought it may well have been my fault. Stuck a wheel of following a spinning car - note to self must look at track not car in gravel in future  Grin  - which slow me up. Considering how close it was it was pretty clean all in all.


It did make things interesting, i could see both Gizmo and Picnic in my mirrors, they were real big Cheesy. I was petrified that they would get past.
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« Reply #52 on: October 31, 2006, 11:09:03 PM +0000 »

Make sure you report it properly using the link on the event's results page.

Report sent.

The driver in question is clearly new and hasn't read the rules.

I don't want anyone to be banned or receive a penalty over this.  I'll be happy with just a warning and a reminder to read the rules.

Cheers.
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« Reply #53 on: October 31, 2006, 11:48:09 PM +0000 »



  I was in 5th and having a fantastic battle with pribeiro and the closely following pack.  Fantastic driving pribeiro, you were all over me in the corners but my porker had a bit too much speed down the straights.

 






Thank you Darren, you did a great consistent driving, was great following you for those laps, untill you run off Sad
Impossible to overtake you, good job Wink
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« Reply #54 on: November 01, 2006, 12:04:46 AM +0000 »

I think over the season with some of the more complex, twisty circuits the speed advantage will be more than negated, you need to brake 1.5km before you want to turn lol

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MORE complex and twisty than Valencia? Can't think of any more twisty and complex than that. I think the GT2 will certainly have no trouble dispatching the opposition once it starts to stretch all 600 horses on the less twisty tracks.
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« Reply #55 on: November 01, 2006, 12:05:40 AM +0000 »

Huge apologies to Don. I tried to rejoin and spun on the grass into Don's side. Completely my fault, I'm sorry.

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« Reply #56 on: November 01, 2006, 12:07:31 AM +0000 »

I think over the season with some of the more complex, twisty circuits the speed advantage will be more than negated, you need to brake 1.5km before you want to turn lol

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MORE complex and twisty than Valencia? Can't think of any more twisty and complex than that. I think the GT2 will certainly have no trouble dispatching the opposition once it starts to stretch all 600 horses on the less twisty tracks.

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« Reply #57 on: November 01, 2006, 12:14:54 AM +0000 »

good race guys, lots of fun and a greats batles Smiley see you next race
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« Reply #58 on: November 01, 2006, 12:38:29 AM +0000 »

I think over the season with some of the more complex, twisty circuits the speed advantage will be more than negated, you need to brake 1.5km before you want to turn lol

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MORE complex and twisty than Valencia? Can't think of any more twisty and complex than that. I think the GT2 will certainly have no trouble dispatching the opposition once it starts to stretch all 600 horses on the less twisty tracks.

Twisty it may be, but it is still quite a fast track with long straight stretches. I believe some of the other tracks with shorter straights will expose the car.
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« Reply #59 on: November 01, 2006, 12:52:23 AM +0000 »

Twisty it may be, but it is still quite a fast track with long straight stretches. I believe some of the other tracks with shorter straights will expose the car.

Quick browse of the FIA GT championship results shows that Valencia is the 2nd slowest of the 2004 tracks, only Oschersleben is slower.
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