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January 06, 2021, 10:38:04 AM +0000 - Oschersleben (GP) - UKAC Season 17 DTM
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Manteos
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Alfa Romeo 155 DTM 1 1:37.814
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1 24:55.268
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15 1:38.423
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Michelin +11.0kg
Lokanas
 
BMW M3 E30 DTM DTM 4 +0.946
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2 +19.251
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15 1:39.584
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Michelin  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Mercedes 190 Evo2 DTM 2 +0.152
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3 +27.747
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15 1:39.248
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Michelin +6.0kg
Fabri Fibra
 Magnesium Team
Alfa Romeo 155 DTM 3 +0.705
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4 +32.938
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15 1:39.078
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Michelin +11.0kg
Syd Drake
 Drake Racing
Alfa Romeo 155 DTM 8 +1.733
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5 +35.317
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15 1:40.783
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Michelin +11.0kg
Mark J
 Legends Racing
BMW M3 E30 DTM DTM 6 +1.006
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6 +35.624
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15 1:40.531
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Michelin  
notbernie
 
Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500 DTM DTM 12 +2.430
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7 (+1) +38.750
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15 1:39.225
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Dunlop +20.0kg
L4de
 
Alfa Romeo 155 DTM 13 +2.687
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8 +46.551
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15 1:40.855
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Michelin +11.0kg
kaifos
 HDR Racing
BMW M3 E30 DTM DTM 9 +2.013
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9 +51.824
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15 1:40.479
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Michelin  
Jos Ogos
 
Alfa Romeo 155 DTM 16 +3.993
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10 +56.138
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15 1:40.354
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Michelin +11.0kg
spanner
 Prodigy Racing
Mercedes 190 Evo2 DTM 10 +2.091
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11 +56.827
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15 1:40.448
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Michelin +6.0kg
IbnSolmyr
 
Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500 DTM DTM 11 +2.321
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12 +1:03.195
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15 1:40.167
---
Dunlop +20.0kg
SRW
 Prodigy Racing
Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500 DTM DTM 14 +3.147
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13 +1:17.624
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15 1:41.251
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Dunlop +20.0kg
Bob
 WSL Racing Team
BMW M3 E30 DTM DTM 14 +1:28.334
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15 1:40.617
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Michelin  
KDiesel
 
BMW M3 E30 DTM DTM 15 +3.734
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15 +1:32.386
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15 1:41.782
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Michelin  
SmokingSteelGarage
 
Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500 DTM DTM 5 +1.006
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16 +3L
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12 1:38.874
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Dunlop +20.0kg
Stefan aka Postal
 Legends Racing
BMW M3 E30 DTM DTM 7 +1.171
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17 +9L
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6 1:40.162
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Michelin  
Lorenzo Galluzzi
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Mercedes 190 Evo2 DTM DNS ---
---
Michelin +6.0kg
vva_avv
 
BMW M3 E30 DTM DTM ---
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Michelin  
azaris
 
Mercedes 190 Evo2 DTM ---
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Michelin +6.0kg

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 267s

Mark (notbernie) has a run on Kimi approaching Triple (T4-6) on lap 3 but backs out of a pass at the 1st of the 3 corners.
Kimi looses the back end of his car enough to run wide and slow more than normal in the mid part of T4, so Mark takes an opportunity to sneak up the inside.
Kimi's car then regains grip, and as it's pointing sharper left cuts back into the space Mark is in the process of filling.

Although Kimi had momentarily lost control and left an opening, the blame for the contact in this instance must lie on Mark as he had not achieved any significant overlap before contact.

With more overlap or a greater loss of control by Kimi this would likely have become classed a racing incident, however the pass as it stands was a little too optimistic.

I have reduced the penalty from the recommended 2 places down to 1 - this is because the severity of the contact was primarily caused by the angle at which Kimis' car 'gripped up' again as opposed to anything intentional by Mark.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Assetto Corsa
DTM
1:37.814
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Manteos
Qualifying
Alfa Romeo 155
+11.0kg
January 06, 2021, 10:38:04 AM +0000
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January 06, 2021, 10:41:53 AM +0000 - Oschersleben (GP) - UKAC Season 17 DTM
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Manteos
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Alfa Romeo 155 DTM 1 1 24:52.923
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15 1:38.397
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Michelin +11.0kg
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Mercedes 190 Evo2 DTM 3 2 +4.122
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15 1:38.264
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Michelin +6.0kg
Fabri Fibra
 Magnesium Team
Alfa Romeo 155 DTM 4 3 +13.008
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15 1:39.011
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Michelin +11.0kg
SmokingSteelGarage
 
Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500 DTM DTM 16 4 +25.971
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15 1:39.257
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Dunlop +20.0kg
Lokanas
 
BMW M3 E30 DTM DTM 2 5 +30.803
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15 1:39.961
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Michelin  
Syd Drake
 Drake Racing
Alfa Romeo 155 DTM 5 6 +39.517
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15 1:39.814
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Michelin +11.0kg
IbnSolmyr
 
Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500 DTM DTM 12 7 +40.280
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15 1:40.077
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Dunlop +20.0kg
notbernie
 
Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500 DTM DTM 7 8 +40.622
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15 1:39.942
---
Dunlop +20.0kg
Stefan aka Postal
 Legends Racing
BMW M3 E30 DTM DTM 17 9 +43.973
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15 1:40.056
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Michelin  
L4de
 
Alfa Romeo 155 DTM 8 10 +45.278
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15 1:40.684
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Michelin +11.0kg
Mark J
 Legends Racing
BMW M3 E30 DTM DTM 6 11 +45.623
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15 1:40.103
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Michelin  
kaifos
 HDR Racing
BMW M3 E30 DTM DTM 9 12 +46.678
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15 1:40.146
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Michelin  
KDiesel
 
BMW M3 E30 DTM DTM 15 13 +1:06.225
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15 1:41.038
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Michelin  
spanner
 Prodigy Racing
Mercedes 190 Evo2 DTM 11 14 +1:08.581
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15 1:40.795
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Michelin +6.0kg
SRW
 Prodigy Racing
Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500 DTM DTM 13 15 +2L
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13 1:40.843
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Dunlop +20.0kg
Jos Ogos
 
Alfa Romeo 155 DTM 10 16 +9L
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6 1:40.556
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Michelin +11.0kg
Bob
 WSL Racing Team
BMW M3 E30 DTM DTM 14 17 +11L
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4 1:40.261
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Michelin  
Lorenzo Galluzzi
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Mercedes 190 Evo2 DTM DNS ---
---
Michelin +6.0kg
vva_avv
 
BMW M3 E30 DTM DTM ---
---
Michelin  
azaris
 
Mercedes 190 Evo2 DTM ---
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Michelin +6.0kg
SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Assetto Corsa
DTM
1:38.264
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FullMetalGasket
Race
Mercedes 190 Evo2
+6.0kg
January 06, 2021, 10:41:53 AM +0000
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« on: December 06, 2020, 11:10:13 AM +0000 »

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page



Welcome to Round 1 of UKAC's first DTM season - this round will feature the first 2 races of the championship.
As this is the 1st round no-one will be running with success ballast, so may the best driver win!

Oschersleben is fairly new, having only opened in 1997, and features a fairy flat circuit with only slight elevation changes.
Turn 1 (as per most German circuits for some reason) is the biggest danger zone - to quote John Cleland: "The guy who designed this first corner should be taken into a dark room and beat about the head".

When joining the server please ensure you select the correct car.


Password: see above

Practice: 19:30 (45 mins)
Qual: 20:15 (15 mins)
Race: 20:30  (2x 15 lap races)


Cars allowed:
Alfa 155 (+11Kg ballast, 10% (-42Hp) restrictor)
BMW M3 DTM (no handicap)
Ford Sierra R500 V3.03 (+20Kg Ballast, 45% restrictor (turbos don't respond the same as N/A before you ask!)
https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/ford-sierra-cosworth-rs500-pack.24027/
Mercedes 190E DTM (+6Kg ballast, 1% (-6.3Hp) restrictor).


Track: Oscherleben GP
https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/oschersleben.25926/

The first lap of each race will be moderated as far as the McDonalds chicane - any incidents that require moderation beyond that point will require a report to be raised in the normal fashion.

Live Timing: here (Only available in the week up to the race)

Time of Day Setting: 13:30
Weather: Mid-clear
Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: Not required

Server track settings:
SESSION_START=98
RANDOMNESS=0
LAP_GAIN=4
SESSION_TRANSFER=96

Damage: 70%

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« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2020, 10:33:51 AM +0000 »

One week to go guys - Practice server is now up!  Cool

2 things worth mentioning:

1.
If you have Content Manager/Shaders Patch and everything seems massively over-exposed or grey regardless of weather settings then this can be fixed by editing the following file;

*your steam directory*\steamapps\common\assettocorsa\content\tracks\tmm_oschersleben\extension\ext_config.ini

open this in notepad/wordpad and delete the following lines from near the top of the file:

Code:
[INCLUDE]
INCLUDE = common/conditions.ini

[BASIC]
SUPPORTS_WIND = 1

[WIND]
DYNAMIC_FLAGS = flag_pirelli_03, flag_adac_15, flag_certina_03, flag_kaercher_01

[LIGHTING]
SPECULAR_MULT=0.0
LIT_MULT=1.0
CAR_LIGHTS_LIT_MULT=1.0

[LIGHT_POLLUTION]
RELATIVE_POSITION=-0.55, 0.050, 0.007
DENSITY=20
RADIUS_KM=1.2
COLOR=0.95,0.9,0.9,100
CONDITION=NIGHT_SMOOTH

You should be left with a file structure that starts with the [ABOUT] section and then has [MATERIAL_ADJUSTMENT_0] and the remainder of the info.
When you re-load the track you should now have working sky/weather/shadows (make a backup to be safe but this worked for me) Smiley

2.
I was bored and made some extra cameras as the 2 that come with the track are good, but fairly similar to each other.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rjrft580f472rnl/Oschersleben%20cams.rar?dl=0

These go into the '*your steam directory*\steamapps\common\assettocorsa\content\tracks\tmm_oschersleben\layout_gp\data' folder (you'll see the other camera files if you're in the right place).
they should work in the moto variant also, but the crane cams will probably no longer be in the crane platforms so might look odd...
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« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2020, 12:41:21 PM +0000 »

cool who's up for some practise laps later today?  Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2020, 02:27:28 PM +0000 »

I'll hopefully be on at some point - got some new cars/tracks to try too
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« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2020, 10:52:54 PM +0000 »

Hello Tim and all SROUK chaps. I was trying to understand if there will be a second qualifying session before race 2, or if the result of qualif. 1 will determine the starting grid of both races. I read the champonship topic, but I didn't find the answer.

I wish to all of you the best for a better 2021!  Roll Eyes Grin
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« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2020, 11:49:28 PM +0000 »

I just came here to ask the same question Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2021, 09:09:14 AM +0000 »

The way we currently set up the server the second race grid is determined by the finishing order of the first race (with the option to reverse positions if desired). Not sure if you can have a second qualy session in AC without manually reseting the server.
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« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2021, 11:54:52 AM +0000 »

As above - the second race start will be determined by finishing order from the first.
AC won't support a second qualifying session, and there's no way I'm running another reverse grid series!

I actually thought I'd put that in the announcement, I'll go re-read and edit that to suit then.....
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« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2021, 02:58:42 PM +0000 »

Thanks for your reply chaps  Wink
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« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2021, 03:58:22 PM +0000 »

nice to see just a few tenths separates top 5 in 4 different cars so far  Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2021, 10:15:42 PM +0000 »

The Skin pack has now been released - it can be found in the first post of the series announcement thread (with instructions) or here:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6r06s5us7t7exvi/DTM%20Skin%20pack.rar?dl=0

The Server has now been restarted and everyone should be in their correct car ready for race day Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2021, 08:14:13 AM +0000 »

Looking forward to this series. And looks like a healthy grid too.
I had the pleasure of racing my bike on this track. I still get the shivers though passing the gravel trap at the final turn, as I high sided the bike big time there during practice... This simming is a lot safer hahaha
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« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2021, 10:21:34 AM +0000 »

Don't know about that, when she was younger my GSD used to lie behind my pedals.
Bad footwork used to get me bitten Grin
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« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2021, 10:35:07 PM +0000 »

Looking forward to this series. And looks like a healthy grid too.
I had the pleasure of racing my bike on this track. I still get the shivers though passing the gravel trap at the final turn, as I high sided the bike big time there during practice... This simming is a lot safer hahaha

By the way Stefan, sTracker says that you drove with paddles to set your fastest lap while your car is supposed to have a H-pattern, is this a bogue or something ?  Huh
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« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2021, 12:40:30 AM +0000 »

Looking forward to this series. And looks like a healthy grid too.
I had the pleasure of racing my bike on this track. I still get the shivers though passing the gravel trap at the final turn, as I high sided the bike big time there during practice... This simming is a lot safer hahaha

By the way Stefan, sTracker says that you drove with paddles to set your fastest lap while your car is supposed to have a H-pattern, is this a bogue or something ?  Huh

That raised by Maxime is not a superflous matter talking about AC. Just to let you know, as Aris reported in an "ancient" post, Assetto Corsa manage the shifting timing in a different way based on the modality you choose to play with. To be more clear I paste here his post

"We designed it in a way that the less assists you use the more the system forces you to drive realistically and the more realistically you drive, the faster the system let you go.

So:

    automatic gearbox + autoblip + auto cut + auto clutch -> easiest -> slower
    manual gearbox + paddles + autoclutch + autoblip - no autocut -> less easy -> a bit faster
    manual gearbox + paddles - no autoclutch - no autoblip -> hard -> fast
    manual H shifter -> manual clutch -> harder -> faster
"

As Maxime noticed, by the stracker seems that you're driving with paddles + autoclutch, that is something like the 2nd configuration proposed by Aris. So, every driver that won't use an H shifter + manual clutch will be "penalized" by the game itself. This "penalty" is given in terms of time to shift gears, so you will lose some milliseconds for every upshift and downshift, you'll lose some acceleration and probably some top speed at the end of the straights. That is the way AC works, as Aris explained. Tbh it is the same in every sim I played with until today Cheesy

EDIT: After I wrote this post I checked every best lap page for drivers that use ptracker, and it seems strange that everyone is reported with "Automatic clutch: ON"  Huh I'm sure I'm with manual clutch at the moment, as I'm always on the razor's edge toward the last laps of the race with my gearbox  Grin Grin

@FMG: Is it possible that "autoclutch" is forced ON by the server?!?! I bet that should be an issue of the unreliable ptracker in this case, but I could be wrong Roll Eyes

https://www.racedepartment.com/threads/automatic-throttle-blip-and-cut.65123/#post-1376242
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