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  • U4Ea - Valencia GP: November 05, 2006
November 05, 2006, 09:05:43 PM +0000 - Valencia (GP) - UKGTR Season 4 Endurance Academy
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Carl Hart
 Racin24-7
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT GT1 2 +0.562
99.246mph
1 1:15:31.372
94.114mph
48 1:30.031
98.685mph
Michelin +10.0kg
enz13_gt
 
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT GT1 8 +2.274
97.384mph
2 +1L
91.307mph
47 1:32.172
96.393mph
Michelin +10.0kg
EdamSpeed
 
Saleen S7-R GT1 4 +1.741
97.956mph
3 +1.101
91.286mph
47 1:31.126
97.499mph
Pirelli +12.0kg
Mojo
 
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT GT1 6 +2.094
97.576mph
4 +25.185
90.807mph
47 1:31.861
96.719mph
Michelin +10.0kg
Jamera
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 5 +1.895
97.790mph
5 +37.087
90.573mph
47 1:31.653
96.939mph
Michelin +17.0kg
cej
 
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT GT1 10 +5.518
94.040mph
6 (+2) +2L
88.630mph
46 1:33.874
94.645mph
Michelin +10.0kg
merlinthepike
 
Lister Storm (#3015) GT1 11 +5.771
93.789mph
7 +3L
87.964mph
45 1:33.432
95.093mph
Dunlop -3.0kg
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Nissan 350Z NGT 14 +7.546
92.064mph
8 +1:22.173
86.402mph
45 1:37.905
90.748mph
Dunlop -50.0kg
ossie
 
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT GT1 9 +4.034
95.541mph
9 +4L
85.747mph
44 1:33.391
95.135mph
Michelin +10.0kg
Don
 Legends Racing
TVR Tuscan T400R NGT 18 +8.601
91.068mph
10 +11.522
85.531mph
44 1:38.533
90.170mph
Dunlop -40.0kg
picnic
 Team Shark
TVR Tuscan T400R NGT 16 +8.206
91.439mph
11 +12.061
85.521mph
44 1:37.933
90.722mph
Dunlop -40.0kg
jonball
 
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 17 +8.209
91.436mph
12 +31.689
85.155mph
44 1:38.211
90.466mph
Pirelli +50.0kg
Adam Parle
 Legends Racing
Gillet Vertigo Streiff NGT 15 +8.069
91.568mph
13 +5L
83.979mph
43 1:37.361
91.255mph
Dunlop -70.0kg
silver53
 Team Shark Junior
Ferrari 360 GTC NGT 19 +10.053
89.733mph
14 +6L
82.081mph
42 1:38.653
90.060mph
Pirelli +30.0kg
Gomes Silva
 Sonic Racing Team
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT GT1 7 +2.164
97.501mph
15 +7L 41 1:32.576
95.972mph
engine
Michelin +10.0kg
james
 Racin24-7
Ferrari 575 GTC GT1 1 1:28.960
99.873mph
16 +11L 37 1:30.176
98.526mph
engine
Michelin +9.0kg
locutos ukgtr
 28CD Motorsports
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT GT1 3 +1.374
98.354mph
17 +21L 27 1:30.927
97.713mph
unknown
Michelin +10.0kg
Generalpain
 28CD Motorsports
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 21 +10.481
89.347mph
18 +26L 22 1:38.896
89.839mph
unknown
Pirelli +50.0kg
LuKe#69
 28CD Motorsports
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 12 +6.744
92.835mph
19 +33L 15 1:37.671
90.966mph
unknown
Pirelli +50.0kg
Chris Butler
 
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT GT1 13 +6.915
92.670mph
20 +44L 4 1:38.171
90.502mph
suspension
Michelin +10.0kg
Oliver Bateson
 
Ferrari 360 GTC NGT 20 +10.426
89.396mph
21 +46L 2 1:57.472
75.633mph
unknown
Pirelli +30.0kg

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 327s

Picnic gets a run on Adam Parle's Vertigo through 7 and into 8 and gets firmly alongside braking for 9, but the former locks a wheel and can't keep a tight line into the corner, forcing Adam very wide. No contact was made but Adam could easily have ended up in the kitty litter had the TVR understeered another foot out.

  • picnic (Picnic)caution — borderline overly ambitious overtake on lap 1
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 339s

Adam misses his braking point (alledgedly distracted by his wife - best not to ask how!) and touches the back of Picnic's TVR, destroying his lights. Picnic does well to save the resulting slide and retain position.

  • Adam Parlepenalty — rear ending Picnic on lap 1 (reduced) — 1 place lost
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 599s

Adam Parle looks to the inside of Picnic as they approach turn 4. The Vertigo driver can brake very late and despite having followed Picnic for a couple of laps overestimates the TVR's braking and cornering abilty and clips his rear, causing a tank slapper which ends up with Picnic parked sideways across the track.

Picnic is trying to get off the racing line when JonBall arrives and the Porsche cannot avoid clipping the back of the TVR, although it seems that very little damage is done.

Adam lets Picnic rejoin ahead of him.

  • Adam Parlewarning — contact with Picnic (reduced)
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 2000s

EdamSpeed laps Ossie between turns 11 and 12; as they enter 12, Ossie clips the back of Edam's car, causing him to spin. MerlinThePike spins in sympathy, and ends up parking right in front of Edam, delaying him briefly as he rejoins.

Ossie explains that Edam's car disappeared momentarily, perhaps due to warp. Not unexpectedly, the server replay has no evidence of this, so I can only take him at his word, but I must advise him that if a car which has just lapped him and is likely to be entering the next turn from off the normal racing line disappears, he is expected to excercise more caution when entering that turn.

  • merlinthepikeadvice — when approaching an accident, caution is better than sympathy
  • ossie (Ossie)advice — exercise more caution if a car disappears


Server replay time: 2263s

Cej's Lambo is catching Adam Parle's Vertigo to put a lap on him. The Vertigo's excellent corner speed keeps him too far ahead to make a proper pass through turns 11, 12 and 13, and he tries to stuff it up the inside of Adam, who is in a close battle with Picnic's TVR, very late in turn 14.

Luckily Adam managed to keep control and stay out of the gravel, but this was totally unnecessary contact as the Murcielago would easily have passed the Vertigo down the following straight. Cej did respond to the incident report but evidently didn't bother to look at the replay and assumed instead that it was referring to his pitlane incident.

  • cej (ce)penalty — contact with Adam Parle — 2 places lost


Server replay time: 2485s

Cej pits but finds JonBall in his pit stall. Unfortunately GTR2 has carried on GTR1's tradition of crazy pit box allocations, but trying to bump the other driver out of the way will only make you unpopular with that driver; you're race may spoiled but it's not by them and there's no need to ruin their race too.

In addition, chat is clearly prohibited during the race. Nobody is in a position to respond to your questions and your messages serve only to distract and annoy other drivers.

  • cej (ce)caution — chat during race
  • cej (ce)caution — pushing JonBall out of his pit box
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 2571s

EdamSpeed spins whilst trying to make a move on Ossie into T4. This allows Mojo to catch up and he attempts a pass into turn 6, sliding a little wide under braking and making some contact with Edam. Mojo is 90% alongside as Edam turns in but understeer carries him ought into the side of Edam's MC12.

James is briefly delayed whilst lapping the pair and uses a quick flash of the lights to draw attention to himself, Edam letting him by once they get back to the front straight, and Mojo two corners after that. James shows good patience and it's perfectly understandable that Edam and Mojo were concentrating more on each other than being lapped.

  • Mojocaution — contact with EdamSpeed

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« Reply #30 on: November 05, 2006, 10:38:52 PM +0000 »

great race  Grin  Although I'm kinda slow it was still good fun. Everything was going well and I went for the pits,but there was another car in my pitspace  Huh Dropped 3 places because of that bug  Embarrassed  Still ,very good race  Cool
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« Reply #31 on: November 05, 2006, 10:40:12 PM +0000 »

Pleased with my qually - 3rd NGT I think.  The starting grid was wrong though - thanks for letting me past on the pace lap Picnic .... and sorry for the nudges.  Flipping wife distracted me on the first one, and I was suffering with FPS issues for the second.  My fault on both accounts, really sorry about the second, I thought you'd caught it ....  Undecided

Cracking bit of racing with Picnic after that, started getting wierd graphical anomalies and FPS issues consistently from about half way, but just about managing to keep it together.

Got a stop-go on the pitstop, stupid error.  Later on in the race I lost it coming out of the final bend courtesy of 1fps ..... and then the pit limiter engaged???  Got back on track and carried on down the straight - oops, stop-gop number 2......

At the back of the remaining runners after the stop-go (2nd) so just ambled round to the finish.

Shame about the problems, as it had been a thoroughly enjoyable race.  Now, it's just really frustrating, as I should have been a couple of places further up the leaderboard.  Still, this isn't a one round champ, so I'll be back.
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« Reply #32 on: November 05, 2006, 10:41:37 PM +0000 »

That was a shame you blew up james. Up till then the racing was brilliant. It was a good race for me, my setup seemed ok and treated the tires well. I think i was a bit over cautious coming into the pits and engaging the speed limiter to early which i think gave james the lead back but really there was nothing in it between me and james. a very good race! Grin
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« Reply #33 on: November 05, 2006, 10:45:04 PM +0000 »

my eye's and my knee's hurt   Grin race went fairly well got into a rhythm with a couple of lambo's had a few pass's then span  Roll Eyes caught back up then   span Lips Sealed had a good stint in the middle with Ossie he was faster then i was faster then started to get abit of a shift problem in i was shifting down to 3 but would hit 2 or 1 and it would snap quickly to quickly.
only real moment was when edam had a moment with some 1 and i almost span into him but just managed to gather it in time  sweatdrop
congrates to the winners
and weldone to the host's another great event  thumbup2
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« Reply #34 on: November 05, 2006, 10:45:34 PM +0000 »

Brilliant race till my computer crashed!!!!!Got 1st in qualifying by nearly 1 second and in th race I was 1st by over 10 seconds and having a really nice time out the front on my own and all of a sudden my PC just crashed,just got a blue screen and some strange sounds.....
Well congrats to whoever finishes on the podium!!!

Was really disappointed to see you out, Luke. You weren't scampering away like I expected you too and I was really looking forward to seeing if my strategy would get me ahead of you after my pitstop. As it was, almost everybody else had multiple visits to the pits so in the end I did a lap more than everyone else in class for what felt like a slightly lacklustre class win the end.

Still, was very pleased to finish without making any mistakes whatsoever. Grin

then on lap thirty something DISASTER black smoke poring from my car Shocked NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO there was no warning temps were fine Huh

Let me guess... no autoclutch... you don't lift when you shift... and/or rev limiter at max and you use it too (although I will admit I did the same this race as the Nissan's engine may not be grunty but it does seem almost bulletproof).

Everything was going well and I went for the pits,but there was another car in my pitspace  Huh Dropped 3 places because of that bug  Embarrassed

Sadly yet another bug carried through from GTR1, through GTL and into GTR2. The way pit boxes are allocated is ridiculous. Roll Eyes Not a good idea to nudge another car though, either park or go around. No need to spoil somebody else's race just because yours has gone pear shaped - it's not their fault.
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« Reply #35 on: November 05, 2006, 10:48:30 PM +0000 »

Replay and Provisional Results now posted Smiley
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« Reply #36 on: November 05, 2006, 10:59:04 PM +0000 »


Sadly yet another bug carried through from GTR1, through GTL and into GTR. The way pit boxes are allocated is ridiculous. Roll Eyes Not a good idea to nudge another car though, either park or go around. No need to spoil somebody else's race just because yours has gone pear shaped - it's not their fault.

Sorry, I'm new to this game and I thought I could park inside his car (this was my first race of this distance, and I haven't experienced this bug before ).

And I was down to 1L fuel left so I couldn't even go out again for another lap.  Sad

At the end of the race I had 2L of fuel left, I'd better add a couple of litres extra next time  Shocked
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« Reply #37 on: November 05, 2006, 11:07:45 PM +0000 »

Very intense racing that, Adam was generally a bit quicker than me but the extra grunt the TVR has over the Vertislow meant the big over taking spots were easy to defend. Thanks for waiting when I lost it Adam, thought I had caught it too Wink

Made the mistake of not checking to see if the pit guys were going to repair aero damage, so had a nice long 52 sec pit stop. Then let my team leader through who was now a lap up but yet to stop and swiftly followed this by have a blonde moment. No way would I have made the corner even with warm tyres and  I let Adam and Don passed me. Between then and the end of the race, both Adam and Don had excursions and let me through. But I decided that perhaps site seeing was the order of the day and promptly gave the places back. Tried hard to chase Don into another mistake but he help firm and we finished a 75 min race less than a sec apart. Well done Smiley
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« Reply #38 on: November 05, 2006, 11:24:57 PM +0000 »

Just noticed this was my 50th official race event with UKGTR/SimRacing.org.uk and I got a class podium as a reward Wink Perhpas race 100 will bring a class win! I can live in hope  Grin
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« Reply #39 on: November 05, 2006, 11:30:01 PM +0000 »

I got lucky on the fuel; the in-game estimate is fairly accurate for the Zed so I went with very little margin for error. Finished with just 6 litres left and got the low warning during my victory lap so I'll be a bit more generous next time. Also nearly forgot about turning off the ignition before they could fuel me, which was stupid because I'd specifically practised stops for 15 minutes yesterday so I could do it without having to think to hard. And I had a Post-It note stuck on my wheel just to make sure! Roll Eyes

Thought my ADSL was going to dump me out early in the race; Luke ahead and Picnic behind were jumping all over the place whilst we were in close proximity and I thought, "yeah, here we go, say goodnight" but somehow it staggered back to usable (160kbps - barely more than dual channel ISDN Angry).
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« Reply #40 on: November 05, 2006, 11:52:35 PM +0000 »

A very tough race for me, my knees and hands hurt  Shocked
Well I had hard tires on the rear and they take a lot of time to warm up so during the formation lap I wanted to take the oppertunity, but I *cough* spun off the track and had to re-join at P19. So I'm pretty glad to finish at 4th position. Big Kudos to Gomes, too bad your engine blew.
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« Reply #41 on: November 06, 2006, 09:00:23 AM +0000 »

Nice opening race Smiley

Feel a little lucky to of nicked 2nd.
Had a really tough first 40mins, the TVR I had filled with fuel and only planned to stop for tyres. It wasn't long before I found myself in last place after misjudging my braking point whilst letting a GT through.
I then spent about 10 laps following Gerald closely, (nice driving G) but never had the top speed with a full tank to get past the 360.
Dived into the pits on the 40 min mark and was happy with a 22sec stop Smiley

I then guessed my team mate Adam must have got a S/G as I saw his second pitout message and by then was only a few seconds in front of me. (bad luck mate)
I was really surprised to see I'd caught Picnic who just appearing out of the pits by that time Shocked
I made a couple of stupid errors in the last 30 mins letting the GT's by, that should of cost me more but luckily for me Picnic and Adam seemed to be having there own problems.
Great last 10 mins or so as Picnic was closing on me and pressured me all the way to the finish Wink
Allmost an undeserved 2nd, but I've raced enough to know I'll take it anyway I can

Grats to the winners and finishers and onto Brno Cool

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« Reply #42 on: November 06, 2006, 01:28:49 PM +0000 »

I was so looking forward to the race - got my best qualy time as well. Need to sort out the FR issues before the next one :'( - any practice races coming up?

Congrats to the winner and finishers
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« Reply #43 on: November 06, 2006, 02:28:45 PM +0000 »

Well, having ditched the Maserati as I couldn't make it handle, I wasn't sure that the Saleen would be the best bet for an Enduro round - with its tendancy to chew up rears! Didn't want to pick a Borgnine or a Fezza though, so plumbed for the Pirelli-shod S7-R.

However, I spend a lot of time working on the setup, and to be honest I had more problems with the fronts! I started off with soft fronts and med rears, thinking the fronts would last double the time of the rears, but by half-distance the fronts were very near 20 on the wear scale, and I was getting serious understeer. So, change of all 4 at the pit stop to mediums, and after that it went really well - by the finish, the fronts were still more worn then the rears, and I reckon I could have done about 40 minutes on a set so I'm happy with that!

The race started out well - was keeping up with the Lambos and Fezzas, and before my pitstop things were going well, until I was rear-ended by a lapped car Sad After the pitstop I made a few errors myself, usually when lapping NGTs - the set up of the Saleen is such that it doesn't like getting up on kerbs at a slow speed, so a couple of times I spun because I put my wheels on the kerbs to get past traffic cleanly. Picnic knows what I mean after I rotated next to him at Curva 2 Cheesy

The last 10 minutes were great - I was really in the groove, and chasing down Enzo for 2nd place. I was taking about 1 second or more each lap out of him, but ran out of laps just at the end. We were separated by 1.1 seconds at the end Smiley
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« Reply #44 on: November 06, 2006, 02:59:37 PM +0000 »

After watching the replay I'd like to say grats to jamera. You must have been laughing your ass off about all of us idiots who let you pass because we thought you were in a fight with james, when in fact you were one lap behind him. Great way to gain 4 positions without any driving skill. Too bad you spun and lost what you had worked for so "hard"  Tongue
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