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  • U4SNm - Spa: November 28, 2006
November 28, 2006, 09:00:26 PM +0000 - Spa (2003) - UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Masters
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Radius
 Racin24-7
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 1 2:16.648
113.750mph
1 38:37.597
107.309mph
16 2:18.230
112.449mph
Michelin +50.0kg
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 2 +0.136
113.637mph
2 +0.989
107.264mph
16 2:18.152
112.512mph
Michelin +50.0kg
CeeJay
 GTN Drivers Club
Ferrari 360 GTC NGT 4 +0.496
113.339mph
3 +8.330
106.925mph
16 2:18.138
112.523mph
Pirelli +30.0kg
james
 Racin24-7
Porsche 996 GT2 Bi-turbo NGT 6 +0.886
113.018mph
4 +9.820
106.857mph
16 2:18.164
112.502mph
Dunlop +50.0kg
JonM_uk
 Team Shark
TVR Tuscan T400R NGT 3 +0.283
113.515mph
5 +11.542
106.778mph
16 2:18.618
112.134mph
Dunlop -40.0kg
baracus250gt
 Racin24-7
Ferrari 360 GTC NGT 5 +0.588
113.263mph
6 +14.078
106.662mph
16 2:18.332
112.366mph
Pirelli +30.0kg
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark Junior
TVR Tuscan T400R NGT 13 +3.045
111.271mph
7 +31.467
105.872mph
16 2:19.648
111.307mph
Dunlop -40.0kg
LEUVEN
 
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 11 +2.325
111.847mph
8 +31.863
105.854mph
16 2:19.316
111.572mph
Michelin +50.0kg
Carl Hart
 Racin24-7
Ferrari 360 GTC NGT 14 +3.048
111.268mph
9 +37.366
105.607mph
16 2:20.205
110.864mph
Pirelli +30.0kg
PaulW
 Legends Racing
Porsche 996 GT2 Bi-turbo NGT 12 +2.849
111.427mph
10 +1:05.145
104.376mph
16 2:22.007
109.458mph
Dunlop +50.0kg
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 19 +4.091
110.444mph
11 +1:05.999
104.338mph
16 2:21.408
109.921mph
Pirelli +50.0kg
stnasky
 
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 22 +4.996
109.738mph
12 +1:08.581
104.225mph
16 2:21.390
109.935mph
Dunlop +20.0kg
Madd-RIP
 Team RVS
Ferrari 360 GTC NGT 17 +3.795
110.677mph
13 +1:15.282
103.933mph
16 2:21.765
109.645mph
Pirelli +30.0kg
Filipe Galego
 Sonic Racing Team
Ferrari 360 GTC NGT 24 +5.816
109.107mph
14 +2:06.006
101.776mph
16 2:24.203
107.791mph
Pirelli +30.0kg
FlyBri
 28CD Motorsports
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 26 +8.017
107.447mph
15 +2:19.151
101.231mph
16 2:24.459
107.600mph
Pirelli +50.0kg
BigG
 RS Motorsport
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 21 +4.927
109.792mph
16 +2:30.642
100.760mph
16 2:22.290
109.240mph
Pirelli +50.0kg
Pedro[PL]
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 360 GTC NGT 10 +2.212
111.938mph
17 (+1) +2L
93.075mph
14 2:21.934
109.514mph
Pirelli +30.0kg
popabawa
 Legends Racing
Gillet Vertigo Streiff NGT 23 +5.474
109.369mph
18 +8L 8 2:23.975
107.962mph
unknown
Dunlop -70.0kg
Truetom
 Legends Racing
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 9 +2.174
111.969mph
19 +10L 6 2:21.043
110.206mph
unknown
Pirelli +50.0kg
jan duijs
 
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 15 +3.357
111.023mph
20 6 2:23.724
108.150mph
unknown
Michelin +50.0kg
locutos ukgtr
 28CD Motorsports
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 16 +3.580
110.846mph
21 6 2:23.412
108.385mph
suspension
Pirelli +50.0kg
Paul968
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 8 +1.775
112.292mph
22 (+2) +11L 5 2:21.732
109.670mph
unknown
Michelin +50.0kg
greg130
 28CD Motorsports
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 18 +3.877
110.612mph
23 +13L 3 2:23.520
108.304mph
unknown
Pirelli +50.0kg
Martin Steinmetz
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 360 GTC NGT 7 +1.204
112.757mph
24 +14L 2 2:24.532
107.545mph
unknown
Pirelli +30.0kg
enz13_gt
 
Mosler MT900R NGT 20 +4.861
109.843mph
25 2 3:54.626
66.249mph
suspension
Dunlop -20.0kg
ossie
 
BMW M3 GTR NGT 25 +5.947
109.006mph
26 +15L 1 3:57.454
65.460mph
suspension
Michelin +80.0kg

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 464s

Popabawa is defending from Ossie on the run from Stavelot and as they approach Blanchimont Ossie goes for the outside line and gets alongside. Popabawa jinks slightly to the right for a better line and there is light contact, but it is enough to send Ossie off and end his race.

Even though Popabawa has held his hand up for this one, the overtaking car still bears some responsibility for safely passing.
Its always risky to get two cars through Blanchimont side by side and it doesn't take much for it all to go wrong.

  • popabawawarning — leave room for manouver when cars are alongside


Server replay time: 484s

Madd-Rip is being followed by Greg130 and as they brake for Pouhon there is lag contact resulting in Madd-Rip ending up in the gravel. Greg was lagging badly at this point and retired soon afterwards once he realised what was happening.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 598s

Pedro is chasing Leuven down to the bus stop and completely misses his braking point. He just manages to veer off to the left and misses Leaven by a pixel at first, but then unfortunately rebounds off the barriers to slide backwards into him in the bus stop anyway.


Server replay time: 930s

Paul968 get a good run through Eau Rouge and is slipstreaming Truetom down the Kemmel straight. As they brake for Les Combes Paul brakes on time but cannot scrub off the extra speed from the tow down the straight, and rear-ends Truetom sending him off.

  • Paul968penalty — rear-end contact — 2 places lost


Server replay time: 1196s

Pedro, Jan Duijs, Locutus and Madd-Rip are having a great battle for 14th place. Locutus got a good run out of Stavelot and bravely pulls alonside on the outside of Jan as they round Blanchimont.
There is side to side contact and both cars lose control, allowing Madd-Rip to slip through picking up two positions.
Then as they brake for the bus-stop Jan brakes slightly too late and swerves to avoid rear ending Madd-Rip, but his car bounces off the barriers and there is contact at the chicane.
The incidents actually began at Blanchimont where Jan should really have left more room for Locutus.
Due to Jan trying his best to avoid the bus-stop crash, and the added distraction of the previous contact I am reducing the penalty to one place.

  • jan duijs (Jan Duijs)penalty — contact with Madd-Rip — 1 place lost
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded
  • jan duijs (Jan Duijs)warning — allow room for manouver when cars are alongside
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 2237s

James is defending from Ceejay and as they exit Fagnes James gets a wheel over the rumble strip. His car suddenly slows and Ceejay who is immediately behind has no chance to avoid contact, and gives James a nudge from behind.
With the added momentum James then does well to stay on the track at Stavelot, but runs slightly wide which allows Ceejay through.

  • Racing incident

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
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NGT
2:16.648
113.750mph
Radius
Qualifying
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR
+50.0kg
November 28, 2006, 09:00:26 PM +0000
U4SNm
GTR2
NGT
2:18.138
112.523mph
CeeJay
Race
Ferrari 360 GTC
+30.0kg
November 28, 2006, 09:00:26 PM +0000
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« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2006, 09:57:19 PM +0000 »

I did a PB in qually and I thought I had pole again after a long time, but Radius took it away from me in the last few secs :'( Smiley.

The formation lap was crap. I was doing 140kp/h, which is more than allowed, but still it was like I was driving on pole Lips Sealed, and at the end of the lap all of a sudden in the ankers to go on the limiter Undecided. Please use a consistent speed during formation lap (e.g 120kp/h).

The race was pretty good. The first half or so I was following Radius with never more than .7 of a sec. At some point he made a small mistake at the busstop, so I had to overtake him. There was no way I could stay behind him or else I would have collected the Fezza and Bi-turbo behind me. Was quite a risky move.

But somebody rearended me slightly at La Source, and I lost alot of speed. We then went 3 wide between La Source and Eau Rouge and there wasn't enough room and I got pushed on the grass as bit, losing some more speed. So I went from 2nd to 4th. But the two Fezza's that overtook me went off/wide at Les Combe, giving me 2nd back.

I then had to follow Radius around for the last 15 minutes. Due to bad fuel calc of me (taking too much again after Brno-incident Smiley) I still had 25L left Roll Eyes, and I couldn't make a move on Radius (on track Tongue). In the end I was surviving Easu Rouge and trying to finish 2nd as my front softs were getting worst. There weren't worn, but just less good Smiley

All in all a pretty fun race, and grats to Rad for the win.

If I have time I might do a vid tomorrow.
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« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2006, 09:58:56 PM +0000 »

Phew, i feel like i just did an endurance event surrender  That was very hard work and i was pushed right to the line in a great 3 way battle  Cool...knackered !

Couldnt believe the pace in qually  Shocked...amazing. A 2:20 only got me 18th/19th?  Embarrassed

Race started well, made up a couple of places from others mistakes or misfortunes, chasing Greg for a couple of laps but then on about lap 2 or 3 his car started warping and i saw him seem to slow a couple of times which made things fiddly but then he quit out (ta greg). Then chased down a 3 car battle up ahead until they had some kind of disagreement up at bus stop and found myself upto 11th and set about chasing my teamie Paul W in his Bi-turbo. I found i could gain right up thru the twisty 2nd sector only to be left on the faster areas. Then had Mark Mc catch the pair of us for about the last 10-15 minutes and we had an epic battle that went on for lap after lap until Mark got up the inside of me at La source and out-dragged me down to Eau Rouge. It was then my turrn to chase him hard for a few laps until i got a great exit out of turn 15 and got glued to his rear spoiler. This seemed to un-nerve him enough at Bus stop to make an error and he went into a spin off the exit kerbs (bad luck mate) and i was able to power on through and re-commence the chase on Paul again.
I closed on his butt once or twice but never had the power (or ability!) to get past and we had a team finish across the line  Cool

My highest finish in the Masters so far, so quite chuffed, especially on a difficult track.  angel
Thoroughly enjoyed the fight with several cars, but particularly Mark Mc and PW who drove hard and fair. thumbup1

Well done to Radius and the other podium guys  Cool
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« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2006, 10:03:29 PM +0000 »

Hmmm, but I've only got a medium spec machine and Spa was fine for me all night. I noticed Spa was giving me marginally less fps while lapping offline so I dropped a couple of setting to make sure I was OK. Aren't I clever?  angel no Wink

Had great fun with the first half of the race a constant battle and the second spaced out enough that I could relax a bit although the end saw Mark and Mc pushing really hard, brill racing guys punk.

Thought the Bi-T was worth a look as I really enjoyed hotlapping it offline but with full fuel and the ballast it was like cornering with a skip on rollerskates. Big thanks to the careful drivers behind at the start who must have been having kittens the first time they saw how early I had to brake! Chuffed with 10th, at the start of the Masters I didn't think I'd ever finish that high with the drivers in it. But as Spa is my fave track it's a certainty that I won't again scooter  Grin
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« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2006, 10:11:34 PM +0000 »

Replay and Provisional Results posted
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« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2006, 10:11:53 PM +0000 »

Fun but disapointing race here... could have done better were it not for a couple of spins. 1st spin was in the hectic moment (reminsicent of Schuey v Hakkinen) going into Les Combes where I got up the inside 2 wide next to a recovering Ruskus and on the tail of CJ, turning in I thought I had slowed enough to keep the inside line and keep it tight but I guess Rus didnt allow for this and I got an unintentional tap thus spinning me round.

Recovered from this to catch up again but second spin when I had to brake to avoid going into the back of a couple who got slowed infront into the trickly little right hander before the long run up to Bus Stop. Really annoyed about that one coz it was my stupid fault for braking too suddenly whilst turning. This let Jon back through (again! - how many times did we pass each other!? lol) and I ran out of laps to do anything about it.

Still really exciting race with lots going on all the time. Got a new PB in qual 2.17.26 something I think Cheesy So i'm chuffed but I could have had a more consistent rhythm in the race so gotta work on that.
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« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2006, 10:12:42 PM +0000 »

Haven't raced at Spa with other people in a while. Quite a different experience from all the other tracks with so many different challenging corners.

Qualified in the usual position (13th), was 14th last week and 13th the week before so I'm getting used to knowing where I should be on the grid now. Pace lap was very fast, but at the position I was in come the start line it all seemed to start off nice and even and settled down into the race.

First off had a battle with PaulW trying to get by his BiTurbo. Without assistance the BiT stretched away down the straights making any overtaking hard, but Paul made a mistake out of Eau Rouge and I pulled my TVR along side down the straight and was not going to be outbraked into the little corner at the end of the straight. Gained a couple of positions more when there was a melee in the bus stop and I had to cut it to avoid the pile-up along with PaulW behind me.

After that I chased down TT and PaulH who were having a good battle it seemed. They were slowing each other up badly and I was able to get closer, then TT went off at the end of the main straight and not too long after Paul ran wide and into the kitty litter and quit out.

With 12 minutes to go I was in an amazing 7th position and I noticed this nasty Porker starting to bear down on me. It was Leuven, *dum der derr*. He slowly eeked into my 3 second advantage and with 7 minutes to go he was right with me and wanting to get by. Was a great battle to the end, but I stuck to my guns and tried to avoid looking in the mirrors too much and just drive as fast as i could on the racing line. Made a few minor mistakes here and there but wasn't enough to let Leuven by and with the chequered flag out one lap earlier than I had anticipated I was a relieved man not to have to endure Leuvens pressure for another lap.

Well done Rad, Jeff and Claus on the podium.

I also had some bad stutters particularly coming into the bus stop and through the first set of pit garages. Don't know why, rest of the time it was smooth, but more often than not there would be nasty stutters there making life tricky.
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« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2006, 10:21:10 PM +0000 »

... but I guess Rus didnt allow for this and I got an unintentional tap thus spinning me round.


Please check the replay, as I never even touched your car.
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« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2006, 10:25:28 PM +0000 »




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« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2006, 10:25:52 PM +0000 »


no1 says this enough but tx picnic...always timely and precise  Wink Cheesy thumbup1

..also sry about fast pace lap...just thought Spa is such a long track and cause im used to my league formation lap structure being different.


plus my result is wrong for quali..not that it matters but it does to me and me 3 fans Wink....tx 
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« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2006, 10:48:28 PM +0000 »

... but I guess Rus didnt allow for this and I got an unintentional tap thus spinning me round.


Please check the replay, as I never even touched your car.

Also would like to say thanks for the lap charts etc good on you!

I don't want u to take this the wrong way m8 as I said it was "unintentional" and im not that bothered but you did touch me as I was a bit sideways, which sent me into a spin. Admitedley you had to go somewhere but I don't want people to think I make things up. No hard feelings at all Smiley - I was just giving my report and it was my fault for trying to push too much anyway.
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« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2006, 10:54:31 PM +0000 »

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then TT went off at the end of the main straight and not too long after Paul ran wide and into the kitty litter and quit out.
To be honest Simon, I was too embarassed to continue ahead of TrueTom having punted him off, so it was more a case of choosing to quit mid corner than running wide.
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« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2006, 11:23:31 PM +0000 »


Also would like to say thanks for the lap charts etc good on you!

I don't want u to take this the wrong way m8 as I said it was "unintentional" and im not that bothered but you did touch me as I was a bit sideways, which sent me into a spin. Admitedley you had to go somewhere but I don't want people to think I make things up. No hard feelings at all Smiley - I was just giving my report and it was my fault for trying to push too much anyway.

Check this video and tell me what was my fault?
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« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2006, 11:40:38 PM +0000 »


Check this video and tell me what was my fault?

No nothing was your fault - I never said that mate. I was out of shape but not unrecoverable and I didnt realise my front came across so much. Sorry and don't worry about it Smiley
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« Reply #28 on: November 29, 2006, 08:52:16 AM +0000 »

Can I remind you that incidents should not be discussed in public.

Thanks.
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« Reply #29 on: November 29, 2006, 10:10:15 AM +0000 »

Terrible race to me. Qualified 10th setting my PB on the same time. Guess high speed corners are not my friends.
I was surprised by the formation lap pace - at one moment I had to do 190km/h to keep up with the pack! It was difficult to warm tires and brakes.
After some minor mistakes (bus-stop spin for example) and nice fight with Leuven and PaulW (I can't wait to see the replay this evening!) my race collapsed as I got some friendly high-speed slap at my back and lost my front wing. I struggled back to pits for the necessary repairs. Of coure my pit crew had to make a mistake and fill me up to 99 liters Smiley No problem I thought. Car will be more stable Cheesy And it was - which resulted with two consecutive bus-stop cuts followed by stop and go penalties (twice Cheesy).

Anyway - I might have finished last, but at least I have finished Cheesy

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