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March 11, 2021, 08:55:53 PM +0000 - Silverstone (GP 2010+) - RRE Season 8 (2021) Formula 90
Driver
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Jos Ogos
 Crank of Brothers
Raceroom Formula 90 V12 F1 1990ish 1 1:35.640
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1 31:17.287
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19 0 1:37.588
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Goodyear  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Raceroom Formula 90 V10 F1 1990ish 2 +0.464
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2 +22.796
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19 0 1:38.380
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Goodyear  
azaris
 
Raceroom Formula 90 V8 F1 1990ish 4 +2.144
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3 +1:05.106
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19 0 1:40.457
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Goodyear  
Eck Simpson
 Team RaceConnect
Raceroom Formula 90 V12 F1 1990ish 8 +5.373
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4 +1:19.879
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19 0 1:40.112
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Goodyear  
Woodcote
 
Raceroom Formula 90 V8 F1 1990ish 9 +9.286
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5 +1:20.060
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19 0 1:40.115
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Goodyear  
BiriBiri
 
Raceroom Formula 90 V10 F1 1990ish 5 +3.479
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6 +1:27.245
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19 0 1:40.634
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Goodyear  
Skanda
 
Raceroom Formula 90 V10 F1 1990ish 6 +3.487
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7 +1L
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18 0 1:41.892
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Goodyear  
BillThomas
 Kerb Crawlers
Raceroom Formula 90 V12 F1 1990ish 10 +29.822
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8 +4L
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15 0 2:01.552
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Goodyear  
Chunky
 
Raceroom Formula 90 V8 F1 1990ish 3 +0.723
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9 +6L 13 0 1:39.175
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unknown
Goodyear  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Raceroom Formula 90 V12 F1 1990ish 7 +5.019
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10 +17L 2 0 1:53.042
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unknown
Goodyear  
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1:35.640
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Jos Ogos
Qualifying
Raceroom Formula 90 V12March 11, 2021, 08:55:53 PM +0000
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Race Room Experience
F1 1990ish
1:37.588
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Jos Ogos
Race
Raceroom Formula 90 V12March 11, 2021, 08:55:53 PM +0000
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« on: February 20, 2021, 08:20:40 AM +0000 »



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Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page

Practice: 19:45 GMT (30 mins)
Qual 2: 20:15 (15 mins)
Race: 20:30 - (30 minutes/XXlaps (TBA)

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Track: Silverstone (Historic)
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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2021, 11:03:51 AM +0000 »

Hi are we running the normal GP track or the historic GP track?

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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2021, 12:13:54 PM +0000 »

Good spot  thumbup1

We will be running the historic variant, as it gets rid of that nasty tight chicane.
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« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2021, 01:56:55 PM +0000 »

hay guys what lap times are you getting here, it seems like the AI is insanely quick and I cant get anywhere near the same post code as them?

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« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2021, 04:11:11 PM +0000 »

Don't know what a good time would be, but I hope you are better than my 1:44
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« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2021, 04:20:24 PM +0000 »

Just turned a few laps in the V10. 1.39.9 in race trim, 1.37.0 in qually trim. Way off the best leaderboard laps though, 1.33s!!!!!!!!!!!!  Huh

It is so much more difficult to get a good lap than at Hungaroring. It is easier to keep the car under control but as it is so much faster you need to be much more precise to keep the speed up, one slight error can easily lose 0.5s. I think I can probably go 1s faster than those times if I can do a lap without small mistakes. No idea how to do 1.33s though.
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« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2021, 04:41:42 PM +0000 »

This car has had a total physics overhaul recently, not sure if the leaderboards were ever wiped. Although the only difference for me since the last update was that the FFB is now even more vague in slow corners.  Undecided
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« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2021, 05:30:12 PM +0000 »

Perhaps as I am not one the fastest "pilotes" here, I rarely notice differences in FFB.
I notice in GTL when there hardly is any, and have to change wheel types until I get one
that has enough resistance. But in R3E for me it just works. I have had endless trouble in AC
trying to get a tight enough lock over the years, and still sometimes have to spin the wheel
like I am driving an oil tanker to get enough lock on, and that's with G25/27 and even more
this TM wheel, but the FFB is just "there" I need enough resistance to stop me turning
too far or not enough, once I have that, it's about as good as it can be for me.

What in particular are the Issues? GT and maybe Picnic have had FFB issues in R3E as well.
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« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2021, 05:39:45 PM +0000 »

I've basically given up on AC. The FFB just doesn't work properly on Logitech wheels, no matter what anyone says, except on certain cars after hours of tweaking.

R3E, however, is generally good. Only in this car, they recently changed the steering geometry, which seems to have reduced the forces a lot in low-speed cornering. This leads to a very floaty and imprecise feeling in and out of corners. If I counter this by increasing the car-specific gain, I get crazy rattling going over the kerbs.
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« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2021, 05:54:03 PM +0000 »

OK, ta for that. I have had to use smoothing to counter that sort of thing
can we do that in R3E, not sure.
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« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2021, 07:36:50 PM +0000 »

I've basically given up on AC. The FFB just doesn't work properly on Logitech wheels, no matter what anyone says, except on certain cars after hours of tweaking.

R3E, however, is generally good. Only in this car, they recently changed the steering geometry, which seems to have reduced the forces a lot in low-speed cornering. This leads to a very floaty and imprecise feeling in and out of corners. If I counter this by increasing the car-specific gain, I get crazy rattling going over the kerbs.

Have you tried using a LUT file for your wheel in AC? I followed these instructions to the letter and it made a huge difference for me...

https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/rasmusps-lut-guide-for-g27-29-and-dfgt.16799/

Had a couple of laps in the V12 and yes, ffb seems to be a bit vague compared to that in the M3. Cranking up the gain doesn't really solve it either because the subtle details become swamped by the overall force. Tweaking lateral and vertical forces would probably help some but then I spent ages tweaking those to get the M3 feeling right for me  Undecided Undecided

Must admit after having spent some time with AC and rF2 open wheel mods from the RSS and ASR modding teams, these FR90s feel very lame.

https://racesimstudio.com/formula-rss-1990-v12

https://www.asrformula.com/simulator/rfactor2/?swoof=1&product_cat=historic-owc-rf2&paged=1&really_curr_tax=31-product_cat

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« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2021, 08:28:46 PM +0000 »

I've basically given up on AC. The FFB just doesn't work properly on Logitech wheels, no matter what anyone says, except on certain cars after hours of tweaking.

R3E, however, is generally good. Only in this car, they recently changed the steering geometry, which seems to have reduced the forces a lot in low-speed cornering. This leads to a very floaty and imprecise feeling in and out of corners. If I counter this by increasing the car-specific gain, I get crazy rattling going over the kerbs.

Have you tried using a LUT file for your wheel in AC? I followed these instructions to the letter and it made a huge difference for me...

https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/rasmusps-lut-guide-for-g27-29-and-dfgt.16799/

I am using that LUT and it helps, but the SAT is still bad. Basically, in a lot of cars as soon as the rear steps out you are fighting the FFB to keep from spinning because it's either not enough SAT and you overcorrect, or too much SAT that kicks you sideways and off the track you go. Basically, the SAT is delayed and there's no way to fix that I've found.
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« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2021, 08:34:08 PM +0000 »

Lame!  eek Hells's Teeth GT. I'd love to know your idea of hard core  laugh laugh laugh laugh
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« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2021, 09:33:11 PM +0000 »

oooh.... those Fr90 keep you awake  Shocked
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« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2021, 09:48:49 PM +0000 »

Indeed Nij I think Tudor must be driving the F3 instead  Roll Eyes
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