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April 07, 2021, 08:31:59 PM +0100 - Oulton Park (GP 1954-72) - UKGTL Season 21 The Top 12 Tracks
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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Hristo Itchov
 Turbo Racing
Austin Mini Cooper S KAD Works (#11) GTC-TC-76 1 1:50.937
86.676mph
1 48:39.794
85.625mph
26 1:50.490
87.027mph
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Daz9
 
Austin Mini Cooper S KAD Works (#52) GTC-TC-76 2 +0.117
86.585mph
2 +29.127
84.779mph
26 1:51.002
86.626mph
Avon  
Erling G-P
 TEAM-GTLDK
Austin Mini Cooper S KAD Works (#39) GTC-TC-76 4 +1.749
85.331mph
3 +1:10.069
83.618mph
26 1:53.119
85.005mph
Avon  
Dimitar Dulichki
 Turbo Racing
Austin Mini Cooper S KAD Works (#3) GTC-TC-76 3 +0.431
86.341mph
4 +1:17.951
83.398mph
26 1:52.191
85.708mph
Avon  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Austin Mini Cooper S KAD Works (#58) GTC-TC-76 6 +2.209
84.984mph
5 +1:19.087
83.367mph
26 1:53.035
85.068mph
Avon  
Wiltshire Tony
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Austin Mini Cooper S KAD Works (#40) GTC-TC-76 9 +4.874
83.029mph
6 +1:55.477
82.367mph
26 1:54.593
83.911mph
Avon  
fpolicardi
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Austin Mini Cooper S KAD Works (#58) GTC-TC-76 8 +3.977
83.677mph
7 +1L
81.792mph
25 1:54.545
83.946mph
Avon  
mikeharley
 Hans Laine Memorial Racing
Austin Mini Cooper S KAD Works (#58) GTC-TC-76 7 +2.786
84.553mph
8 +19L 7 1:55.395
83.328mph
unknown
Avon  
Geoffers
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Austin Mini Cooper S KAD Works (#3) GTC-TC-76 5 +1.915
85.206mph
9 +23L 3 1:53.055
85.053mph
unknown
Avon  
SpecialKS
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Austin Mini Cooper S KAD Works (#55) GTC-TC-76 10 +5.512
82.574mph
10 3 1:54.531
83.957mph
suspension
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Robby82
 
Austin Mini Cooper S KAD Works (#10) GTC-TC-76 11 +11.288
78.672mph
11 +25L 1 3:26.786
46.500mph
unknown
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« on: March 17, 2021, 10:37:30 PM +0000 »

Championship standings HERE

TRACK #9

Grid/server capacity: 22

Track: Oulton Park (International) '92 Download this

Cars allowed: Austin Mini Cooper KAD Works (pm WT for download link).

Practice: ~19:20 BST (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 BST (10 mins)
Race: 20:30 BST (26 laps)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit stops: Not Required

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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2021, 10:28:02 PM +0100 »

IMPORTANT

This is a newer set of KAD Mini's so even if you have the older set you will need the download, sorry  angel

The newer set are shown as (UKGTL) so you will be able to distinguish them from the older cars.
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« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2021, 06:33:32 PM +0100 »

Never driven these before, so did 25 minutes or so last night...

Am I missing a trick on setup on these? Could barely keep it on track most of the time, either on braking, turn in or power on....Could be tricky if that carries on!
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« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2021, 06:48:56 PM +0100 »

I will drive them on Wednesday so don't know but the Mini's seem to have a problem with braking. Try Brake bias as much as possible on the front.
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« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2021, 07:47:10 PM +0100 »

I tried a handful of laps earlier & yes they are difficult on default setup. I have driven them quite often before but have not yet uncovered one of my old setups so started from scratch. As DD said move brake bias more to the front (think I found 73/27 quite good), add a bit of rear toe-in & quite a lot more rear camber, that should go some way to solving the braking problem. Not sorted the power understeer yet, but try more toe-out, bit less power diff & softer springs & dampers. Finally tyre pressures are way too high on default, almost minimum settings seem about right.

I will try to upload my setup when it's about finalised.
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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2021, 04:45:19 AM +0100 »

I will drive them on Wednesday so don't know but the Mini's seem to have a problem with braking. Try Brake bias as much as possible on the front.
One might take some pressure off the brakes, also...96% or even less. So far 94% seems to be working, but I may take even more off >90%<95%.

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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2021, 04:25:50 PM +0100 »

I have uploaded my setup to the online files, still a little tricky but better than default for sure.
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« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2021, 10:08:38 PM +0100 »

Just when I feel well enough to tackle GTL again............................SOMEONE SELECTS MINIS!!!  cursing scared scared scared
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« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2021, 11:43:20 PM +0100 »

Just when I feel well enough to tackle GTL again............................SOMEONE SELECTS MINIS!!!  cursing scared scared scared
Oops  whistling
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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2021, 08:51:24 PM +0100 »

I have uploaded my setup to the online files, still a little tricky but better than default for sure.

But not much, just could not get it really driveable for me. Could not find any of my old setups for the car & clearly the one I had knocked up was not particularly good & spent more time off track than on it in practice & qually & the race was no better. After flying off the track at the hairpin I finished on the wrong side of the barriers & could not be bothered trying to find a way back. Angry
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« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2021, 09:27:52 PM +0100 »

Well you fared better than I did Geoffers.
I was a little late ( sounds better than slow! Roll Eyes) getting on to the server, only to discover that I had the wrong KAD Mini........should've read the race post and pm'd Tony like it said for the car pack. Undecided.
Quali had started so no point in bothering Tony and anyway, no time to install etc. Such a shame I missed racing those lovely Minis  shifty whistling

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« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2021, 09:53:25 PM +0100 »

Replay now posted.

There is a technical hitch with the results so they will be somewhat delayed  helpsmilie
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« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2021, 05:54:21 AM +0100 »

Replay now posted.

There is a technical hitch with the results so they will be somewhat delayed  helpsmilie

I wonder if it's what happened near the end of the race when I was suddenly dropping down the order and then it returned back to normal about half a minute later.

For this one I was expecting to struggle, because such FWD cars have never been my cup of tea, so I did extensive testing 2 days ago, working on the setup and learning how to extract more speed from the car. Ended up doing some 60 laps in total, but it was quite productive.

Still would have probably lost the race to Daz, had it not have been for his off while we were fighting for the lead and judging by how quick he was in the closing laps as I was struggling on worn out fronts. Even before his off, he was a constant threat in my mirrors, so I guess he must have found an even better setup solution or can just better drive the Mini.

For me the solution was setting up the rear at maximum stiffness - springs, anti-roll bar, bump and rebound (oddly made the car more stable), plus maximum negative camber and a negative toe. The front was in the opposite direction - as soft as possible, to cure the tendency to understeer. Tyre pressures were also set very low. The gearing was also key, gaining valuable hundreds and tenths when it was revving somewhere around the mid-range. I still had worse acceleration out of corners compared to Daz though. Perhaps I still ran too much of a differential lock, not sure.

Anyway, congrats to Daz for the recovery and everyone else who survived to the end of the race.
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« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2021, 07:08:21 AM +0100 »

Replay now posted.

There is a technical hitch with the results so they will be somewhat delayed  helpsmilie

I'll have a look with Autosimanalyzer, but that will be only late afternoon when I'm on my private PC.
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« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2021, 10:21:17 AM +0100 »

Replay now posted.

There is a technical hitch with the results so they will be somewhat delayed  helpsmilie

I'll have a look with Autosimanalyzer, but that will be only late afternoon when I'm on my private PC.
It's Ok Kurt, we know where the problem lies, just awaiting the fix.
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