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  • U4Ea - Zhuhai: December 17, 2006
December 17, 2006, 09:05:06 PM +0000 - Zhuhai - UKGTR Season 4 Endurance Academy
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
locutos ukgtr
 28CD Motorsports
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT GT1 1 1:28.961
107.682mph
1 1:21:14.912
102.183mph
52 1:29.990
106.451mph
Michelin +10.0kg
Mojo
 
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT GT1 5 +1.043
106.434mph
2 +27.660
101.607mph
52 1:30.334
106.046mph
Michelin +10.0kg
Nug
 
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT GT1 2 +0.115
107.543mph
3 +1L
99.677mph
51 1:30.165
106.244mph
Michelin +10.0kg
merlinthepike
 Team Shark Junior
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT GT1 6 +1.079
106.392mph
4 +42.182
98.827mph
51 1:31.396
104.813mph
Michelin +10.0kg
Steve_T
 
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT GT1 13 +2.544
104.689mph
5 (+2) +1:12.231
98.230mph
51 1:32.424
103.648mph
Michelin +10.0kg
Joss
 
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT GT1 3 +0.185
107.459mph
6 51 1:29.777
106.704mph
fuel
Michelin +10.0kg
cej
 DSD
Saleen S7-R GT1 12 +1.929
105.397mph
7 +2L
98.207mph
50 1:31.539
104.650mph
Pirelli +12.0kg
enz13_gt
 
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT GT1 9 +1.486
105.913mph
8 +20.635
97.794mph
50 1:31.325
104.895mph
Michelin +10.0kg
LuKe#69
 28CD Motorsports
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 14 +6.761
100.076mph
9 +3L
95.052mph
49 1:36.137
99.644mph
Pirelli +50.0kg
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Nissan 350Z NGT 20 +7.760
99.043mph
10 +7.980
94.899mph
49 1:36.880
98.880mph
Dunlop -50.0kg
John
 
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 16 +6.859
99.974mph
11 (+2) +34.566
94.392mph
49 1:36.307
99.469mph
Michelin +50.0kg
picnic
 Team Shark
TVR Tuscan T400R NGT 19 +7.554
99.254mph
12 +41.126
94.267mph
49 1:37.563
98.188mph
Dunlop -40.0kg
Reign Man
 
TVR Tuscan T400R NGT 21 +8.156
98.639mph
13 +4L
93.441mph
48 1:37.745
98.005mph
Dunlop -40.0kg
ossie
 
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT GT1 10 +1.584
105.798mph
14 48 1:31.333
104.886mph
unknown
Michelin +10.0kg
Darren Seal
 
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 15 +6.831
100.003mph
15 48 1:36.682
99.083mph
fuel
Michelin +50.0kg
Chunky
 28CD Motorsports
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 17 +7.304
99.512mph
16 48 1:36.653
99.113mph
engine
Pirelli +50.0kg
Blunder
 
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 24 +9.132
97.658mph
17 +5L
91.975mph
47 1:39.494
96.282mph
Michelin +50.0kg
silver53
 Team Shark Junior
Ferrari 360 GTC NGT 25 +10.075
96.728mph
18 +6L
90.351mph
46 1:39.234
96.535mph
Pirelli +30.0kg
Don
 Legends Racing
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 23 +9.034
97.755mph
19 +55.287
89.338mph
46 1:39.157
96.610mph
Pirelli +50.0kg
Carl Hart
 Racin24-7
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT GT1 4 +0.263
107.365mph
20 +17L 35 1:30.075
106.351mph
engine
Michelin +10.0kg
Jamera
 28CD Motorsports
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT GT1 11 +1.751
105.604mph
21 +29L 23 1:31.326
104.894mph
engine
Michelin +10.0kg
Adam Parle
 Legends Racing
BMW M3 GTR NGT 18 +7.314
99.502mph
22 +38L 14 1:38.678
97.079mph
unknown
Michelin +80.0kg
Zeus Zore
 DSD
Saleen S7-R GT1 8 +1.427
105.982mph
23 +39L 13 1:31.625
104.551mph
unknown
Dunlop +12.0kg
D_Nichols
 Racing for Yorkshire
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR NGT 22 +8.661
98.129mph
24 +43L 9 1:38.866
96.894mph
unknown
Michelin +50.0kg
kg7
 
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 25 (+2) +44L 8 1:35.787
100.009mph
unknown
Michelin +17.0kg
lincescom
 Sonic Racing Team
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT GT1 7 +1.367
106.053mph
26 +50L 2 1:37.420
98.332mph
unknown
Michelin +10.0kg

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 417s

Thomas Mogensen (KG7) thumps Lincescom up the rear when he brakes far too late into turn 9, ending Lincescom's race in the gravel. He then almost does a dangerous rejoin before checking up at the last moment.

  • kg7 ([FO]KG-7)penalty — rear ending Lincescom — 2 places lost


Server replay time: 882s

Luke Mustoo has slipped up the inside of Behold in T1. As they run through the kink that is T3, Beholder is very close behind Luke, and as they run towards turn 4, the former is too close to Luke to see where to brake, and runs directly into the back of him.

Luke didn't fully commit to a defensive line, but Beholder could have forced him to by committing to an outside line with the aim of getting alongside, or getting a better run out of 4 and 5 and the inside line into 6 and 7. By remaining directly behind Luke he not only took away his ability to clearly see a braking marker, but also any contingency should Luke brake earlier than him.

Both cars were forced off the track, and whilst Beholder claims that he "let him pass when he caught up, a couple of laps later", it was actually nearly 11 minutes later, when Luke got past after Beholder was slowed up momentarily by a lapping car in turns 11 & 12.

  • John (Beholder)penalty — rear ending Luke Mustoo — 2 places lost


Server replay time: 1653s

Enzo Trede crosses the finish line in the pits and GTR2 fails to register the lap. The results have been corrected to show him finishing after 50 instead of 49 laps, although this does not change the finishing order.


Server replay time: 2649s

Steve T is following Locutos through a big pack of NGTs, and totally misses his braking point for turn 4, managing to collect both Martin Mason and Luke Mustoo in the process and also tagging Locutos.

  • Steve_Tpenalty — contact with multiple cars — 2 places lost

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« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2006, 11:18:27 PM +0000 »

I Think I lost my last lap, i finished 45 secs behind Picnic but the game said i did one less lap than him while not being a lap down. Strange
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« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2006, 11:23:10 PM +0000 »

His forum name is Zeus Zore

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« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2006, 11:39:17 PM +0000 »

Something's up there....I finished third even with my dnf for fuel - ran out as I crossed the line but as everyopne behind me was a lap down I showed as third....

I think I'm cursed in the endurance races. Had a good battle at the start with Nug, then managed to pull out a little gap but couldn't close on Loco. Then the pit stop messed up - I was in the very last pit box and I overshot by about a metre, then I reversed to the sight of my pit crew picking up my tyres and walking back into the garage. Turns out the pit exit is DIRECTLY after the last pit box - like completely directly. If you overshoot by even a little bit, it's classed as leaving the pits and you have to go out and do another lap! Be Warned future people of the last pit-box  Shocked

Barely had any fuel left and cruised round on fumes, pitted again, then drove my nuts off. Managed to get the gap down to Mojo to about 9 seconds, then spun....then realised I didn't have enough fuel again and started coasting. Saw the time was up and thought I'd made it, crossed the line with no fuel....and there was another lap to go. Then at the end realised everyone after 1st and 2nd had been lapped anyway, so apparently got third....
...pending investigation.

Good win Loco, v-fast at the start. Sort the parade lap out though....you stuck your limiter on about 100 metres before the start/finish line on the straight...that's too late for the guys at the back mate.


 

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« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2006, 11:46:20 PM +0000 »

Count down timer got to zero and finished my lap chequered flag appeared and i pulled off the track and hit escape. s**t DNF? What was that all about?

Did you cross the line after the chequered flag was shown? Or did it appear just after you crossed the line? For the race to be over, the clock must be at zero, and the leader must have crossed the line. You have to keep racing until both happen and you also cross the line.
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« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2006, 11:48:57 PM +0000 »

Sort the parade lap out though....you stuck your limiter on about 100 metres before the start/finish line on the straight...that's too late for the guys at the back mate.

That did seem to happen a bit late, although there was just about time to form up at the back. I think Reign Man left a huge gap behind me though which wasn't really fair on the folks behind him. Undecided
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« Reply #20 on: December 17, 2006, 11:52:22 PM +0000 »

Something's up there....I finished third even with my dnf for fuel - ran out as I crossed the line but as everyopne behind me was a lap down I showed as third....
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Then at the end realised everyone after 1st and 2nd had been lapped anyway, so apparently got third....
...pending investigation.

See this post. To misquote, to finish third, first you must finish.
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« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2006, 11:57:26 PM +0000 »

I Think I lost my last lap, i finished 45 secs behind Picnic but the game said i did one less lap than him while not being a lap down. Strange

Given the lap times there's a 50% chance that the leader had lapped you but not Picnic, in which case the results would be correct - you could finish having done a lap less than Picnic despite not having been lapped by him.
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« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2006, 12:12:47 AM +0000 »

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See this post. To misquote, to finish third, first you must finish.
So in other words, even though I was the third person to cross the finish line, I'm classified 6th because a DNF messes the system up.

If anyone fancies punting me off next race, be my guest. Everything else has happened.

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« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2006, 12:15:50 AM +0000 »

hard race,came across ngt sooner than expected ,who for the most part drove well ,clipped a kerb overtaking and span it,so decided to pit early went in and out ,i lost a lap and then the fuel didnt fill to what i asked forcing a second pit :-(,kept pressing to finish ,but a lost cause with lost laps,congrats to both winners.
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« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2006, 12:33:25 AM +0000 »

Sounds like a good race was had, I enjoyed the laps I had in the 4 car nGT train that Dave led for the first 7 (8?) laps or so. Sadly I had someone banging urgently at my front door and had to deal with them  Undecided
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« Reply #25 on: December 18, 2006, 07:08:45 AM +0000 »





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« Reply #26 on: December 18, 2006, 07:32:47 AM +0000 »

Guys,

A very enjoyable race but a respectfull request to the GT guys ( as someone else has mentioned it also! )
I believe the spirit of this event is 2 races in 1 ! One GT and 1 NGT!
I had some fantastic racing at the back of the field in my NGT. I was right on the bumper of another NGT, ( Havn't checked the replay to see who exactly! )
for lap after lap after lap. Very enjoyable! but having the GT guys come through lost me loads of time!
As an NGT driver I will make every effort to give you guys room ( which I believe I did! ) but this has to be reciprocated!
I had a number of minor incidents ( none of which I am going to report ) which were too close for comfort and could easily have seen me off!

Having said that an excellent race and the general standard of racing was good!

( You see the older you get the more of a grumpy old *** !! you become!! )

Thanks all, look forward to the next one!!

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« Reply #27 on: December 18, 2006, 07:36:55 AM +0000 »

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See this post. To misquote, to finish third, first you must finish.
So in other words, even though I was the third person to cross the finish line, I'm classified 6th because a DNF messes the system up.

Yep. If GTR2/GTL would record laps and positions accurately (like rFactor does) we wouldn't have the problem, but it doesn't, so occaisionally we have to make some hard decisions to avoid turning the whole thing into a big, time consuming, error-prone manual process. Sad

ps. You weren't the third person to cross the finish line. You never took the chequered flag. That's the problem.
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« Reply #28 on: December 18, 2006, 07:39:17 AM +0000 »

hard race,came across ngt sooner than expected ,who for the most part drove well ,clipped a kerb overtaking and span it,so decided to pit early went in and out ,i lost a lap

Enzo, as I asked in chat: did you lose a lap to the finish line bug despite having the fix installed? Or did you just lose a lap because the leader passed whilst you were in the pits?
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« Reply #29 on: December 18, 2006, 10:15:28 AM +0000 »

After initial dissapointment with my Qual time, couldn't get anywhere near my PB. I was pleased to move up to 9th fairly soon.
Had a couple of metal to metal incidents, having watched the replay my consiouns (god i just cant spell that word) is clear. On the first I passed Jamera on the outside, he flicked over and hit me and spun himself off.
The second a yellow Saleen took me out, I lost a few seconds but no places, so not to worried although my pursuit was effectively over for the time.
I did cause a bit of carnage at one point (for which I humbly apologise) Came up behind some NGT's for a left hander travelling too fast, locked the brakes and side slided into all five of them. Clipped the rear of one and he spun, fortunately the rest stayed on.
Once again to whoever spun, sorry about that, it was my one black mark on a otherwise enjoyable race.

I did have a great battle on a couple of occasions with CE seeing some very close bumper to bumper racing and eventually got ahead of him when he made a mistake.
Quite oddly (I thought) towards the end I kept getting blue flags even though there was nobody behind me, quite offputting.
Then I got the chequer and couldn't decide whether I had finished or not, I slowed down thinking I had but CE was coming up on me fast, so I figured I had better keep ahead of him. On the last lap there was a car on fire, I dodged round this, CE did the same but immediately after there was another smash and I touched the brakes CE clipped me and spun off. I crossed the line and finally did finish for real. Happy with 6th, although it seems I got 5th in the results?
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