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Question: Will you take part?  (Voting closed: December 23, 2006, 01:51:22 PM +0000)
Yes, definitely - 14 (29.8%)
Probably (>50%) - 15 (31.9%)
Possibly (<50%) - 6 (12.8%)
No - 12 (25.5%)
Total Voters: 43

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  • GTR2 Super Endurance: December 28, 2006
December 28, 2006, 08:31:41 PM +0000 - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - UKGTR Older
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Radius
 Racin24-7
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#960037) GT1 1 1:41.797
113.489mph
1 2:01:01.813
101.818mph
64 1:43.084
112.072mph
Michelin +10.0kg
Joss
 
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#3036) GT1 2 +0.026
113.460mph
2 +2.704
101.780mph
64 1:42.863
112.313mph
Michelin +10.0kg
Kerr
 
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#4002) GT1 7 +1.434
111.912mph
3 +1L
100.647mph
63 1:44.244
110.825mph
Michelin +17.0kg
FlyBri
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#970012) GT1 8 +1.593
111.740mph
4 +23.357
100.323mph
63 1:44.247
110.822mph
Michelin +17.0kg
Jure
 
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#3036) GT1 6 +1.317
112.039mph
5 +25.121
100.299mph
63 1:43.689
111.418mph
Michelin +10.0kg
jan duijs
 
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#4001) GT1 13 +2.907
110.338mph
6 63 1:45.160
109.859mph
DQ
Michelin +17.0kg
Roadrunner
 
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#4001) GT1 14 +3.265
109.962mph
7 +2L
98.396mph
62 1:45.503
109.502mph
Michelin +17.0kg
Munkez
 
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#4002) GT1 10 +2.537
110.729mph
8 +34.790
97.928mph
62 1:45.027
109.998mph
Michelin +17.0kg
silver53
 Team Shark Junior
Saleen S7-R (#4028) GT1 15 +5.315
107.857mph
9 +4L
95.550mph
60 1:47.836
107.133mph
Dunlop +7.0kg
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Nissan 350Z (#990001) NGT 22 +9.946
103.387mph
10 +20.390
95.283mph
60 1:51.786
103.348mph
Dunlop -50.0kg
locutos ukgtr
 28CD Motorsports
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#780012) NGT 17 +8.495
104.748mph
11 +22.120
95.260mph
60 1:50.815
104.253mph
Pirelli +50.0kg
Mooman117
 
Ferrari 360 GTC (#4087) NGT 19 +8.986
104.283mph
12 +1:08.437
94.658mph
60 1:52.170
102.994mph
Pirelli +30.0kg
Don
 Legends Racing
TVR Tuscan T400R (#980008) NGT 20 +9.477
103.823mph
13 +5L
93.776mph
59 1:52.404
102.779mph
Dunlop -40.0kg
Reign Man
 
TVR Tuscan T400R (#4153) NGT 24 +10.904
102.509mph
14 +59.293
93.017mph
59 1:53.201
102.056mph
Dunlop -40.0kg
D_Nichols
 Racing for Yorkshire
TVR Tuscan T400R (#970036) NGT 25 +11.543
101.931mph
15 +6L
91.936mph
58 1:54.310
101.066mph
Dunlop -40.0kg
linco24
 
Porsche 911 GT3-RS (#3054) NGT 26 +15.023
98.894mph
16 +8L
89.217mph
56 1:57.892
97.995mph
Dunlop +20.0kg
John
 
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#3036) GT1 12 +2.656
110.603mph
17 +10L 54 1:45.817
109.177mph
engine
Michelin +10.0kg
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
Chevrolet Corvette C5-R (#4108) GT1 4 +0.452
112.987mph
18 +15L 49 1:42.932
112.237mph
engine
Michelin -10.0kg
Truetom
 Legends Racing
Ferrari 360 GTC (#930008) NGT 16 +7.871
105.344mph
19 49 1:50.825
104.244mph
engine
Pirelli +30.0kg
Chunky
 28CD Motorsports
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#780012) NGT 21 +9.652
103.660mph
20 +22L 42 1:52.413
102.771mph
unknown
Pirelli +50.0kg
Bernie Lomax
 
Lister Storm (#4027) GT1 11 +2.554
110.711mph
21 +26L 38 1:45.650
109.350mph
accident
Dunlop -10.0kg
Darren Seal
 
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#350453) NGT 23 +10.452
102.921mph
22 +38L 26 1:52.813
102.407mph
unknown
Michelin +50.0kg
lincescom
 Sonic Racing Team
Ferrari 360 GTC (#990031) NGT 18 +8.526
104.718mph
23 +57L 7 1:51.719
103.410mph
unknown
Pirelli +30.0kg
james
 Racin24-7
Ferrari 575 GTC (#980037) GT1 5 +0.883
112.513mph
24 +59L 5 1:44.156
110.918mph
unknown
Michelin +9.0kg
stnasky
 
Dodge Viper GTS-R (#4032) GT1 9 +1.668
111.659mph
25 +60L 4 1:44.563
110.487mph
DQ
Pirelli -15.0kg
Dan Minton
 Team RVS
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#700029) GT1 3 +0.350
113.100mph
26 +63L 1 2:39.583
72.394mph
unknown
Michelin +17.0kg

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 283s

At the end of the pace lap, Dan Minton (in third) positions himself so he has a clear view of Radius in the lead, but cannot see the flashing limiter light of FreQ in second. In fact, from the overhead view, he clearly has some overlap with FreQ. Dan goes the moment Radius goes.

This is a clear violation of the starting procedure, and as such I'm issuing an official warning. Dan clearly realises his mistake and appears to think about allowing FreQ to retake second, but then takes the position into Copse.

  • Dan Mintonwarning — premature acceleration on the pace lap
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 318s

Dan Minton appears to be having second thoughts about his start, and flashes his lights to allow FreQ (and Ruskus, who has got ahead of him) past on the Hangar Straight (running onto the grass in the process), but unfortunately then tags the back of FreQ as they enter Stowe, collecting James and tagging FlyBri in the process and forcing Jure ("Petra Skofic") off as well.

For good measure, Dan then half-spins across the track as he rejoins; luckily, everyone else showed enough caution and presence of mind to get through the scene without a major pileup ensuing.

Update: Dan has since reported that his steering wheel came loose on Hangar Straight and he was busy trying to reattach it.

  • Dan Mintonadvice — make sure your equipment is secure before racing!


Server replay time: 3342s

Chunky's mandatory rest stop was a minute short. By convention, triple the difference is added to the race time (not that it makes any difference to the end result).

  • Chunky — short mandatory rest stop — 180.000 seconds added


Server replay time: 4000s

Radius is catching Jan Duijs to lap him as they come out of Club. He flashes him once and closes right up behind as they go into and through Abbey. He flashes again out of Abbey but fails to pull out, giving Jan no real chance to let him by into Bridge, where Radius promptly runs into the back of him.

This was only the second corner after Radius was genuinely close enough to pass, and whilst under normal circumstances he would've been allowed past on the short straight between Abbey and Bridge, it would not have been safe for Jan to slow there with Radius close behind and not further out to the right; in fact, Jan pulls away from Radius during this short straight.

Jan then runs a little too far over the inside curbs in Bridge and slows more than Radius, who has left little room for error, is expecting.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 4513s

Reign Man flashes his lights at DMN just before having a look up the inside of him into Abbey.

Flashing a driver who is being raced for position is not normal practice, and indeed most would consider it foolhardy to so clearly announce an attempt at a pass for position.

Had DMN crashed having been distracted by RM's flashing there might have been a question mark of whether said distraction was the intended effect, and whether such behaviour is within the spirit of the league.

  • Reign Manadvice — don't flash your lights to announce an attempted pass for position


Server replay time: 4694s

DMN slows much more in Maggots that Locutos is expecting as he comes up to lap him and the latter runs into the back of the former.

Normally this would be a straight penalty to Locutos, but I'm mindful of the fact that a brief review of DMN's race shows that he was often outbraking himself or running off the track, suggesting a lack of practice or experience, which contributed to his slowness in the difficult Maggots/Beckets corners, and also that Locutos had only a slender lead in NGT. I'm therefore reducing it to a caution.


Server replay time: 5575s

Radius took his mandatory rest stop beginning at 5287s, but ending 12 seconds early at 5575.


Server replay time: 5627s

Beholder is lapping DMN as they exit Woodcote, but misjudges the distance and his closing speed and clips the back of Dave's car, putting the TVR into the wall.

It's hard to be sure, and Dave doesn't mention it in his report, but it sounds in the replay as if Dave breathes off the throttle when he reaches the straight, without giving Beholder a chance to actually pull out to pass him. Certainly the closing speed suddenly seems to increase as Beholder exits Woodcote.

I am therefore reducing any penalty to a caution.


Server replay time: 5730s

Having gone off at Abbey, Beholder finds himself back behind DMN again. Dave lets Jan Duijs by in Brooklands by running all the way to the outside of the corner, but cuts back in as Beholder tries to follow through.

This is an unnecessary incident and both drivers could and should have left more room for each other.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GTR2
NGT
1:49.668
105.344mph
Truetom
Qualifying
Ferrari 360 GTC
+30.0kg
December 28, 2006, 08:31:41 PM +0000
Uo
GTR2
NGT
1:50.815
104.253mph
locutos ukgtr
Race
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR
+50.0kg
December 28, 2006, 08:31:41 PM +0000
Uo
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« Reply #45 on: December 21, 2006, 03:04:49 PM +0000 »

First post of this thread now updated with more details. Main thing to be confirmed now is where we will do the timed rest stop.
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« Reply #46 on: December 21, 2006, 08:17:23 PM +0000 »

First post of this thread now updated with a little map and some text showing where to take your mandatory rest stop. I'm expecting that most people will try and combine it with a pit stop so I've mandated leaving via the pits to make rejoining the circuit safer..
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« Reply #47 on: December 22, 2006, 12:00:53 AM +0000 »

I've just downloaded and installed silverstone but my cars floating and rocking.
I wouldnt mind but looking at the rythm of the rocking it looks like some one having a bit in my lambo.
lucky git.
How do i solve this.
I cant race with some one humping in my car.lol
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« Reply #48 on: December 22, 2006, 09:24:37 AM +0000 »

same thing as me beholder.try timetrial ,my car falls through the ground. Huh
what have i done this time  Undecided
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« Reply #49 on: December 22, 2006, 09:55:45 AM +0000 »

 lol


Haven't seen any problems yet when dring on Silverstone. But I have only played in offline so far,maybe a problem on the server ?
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« Reply #50 on: December 22, 2006, 09:56:35 AM +0000 »

Are there really not enough tracks in the main game to use an original track? The short ones never get used, maybe that would be nice to do, especially with 2 hours and only 15 people.

I can't remember there not being some problem or another with a GTR 1 or 2 addon track, I can't believe they are worth the effort online when there are 30something original tracks.
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« Reply #51 on: December 22, 2006, 10:06:18 AM +0000 »

May I suggest Donington GP........
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« Reply #52 on: December 22, 2006, 11:01:35 AM +0000 »

I have 'the other' Silverstone. The one that shows in the lobby as "Northamptonshire". I think it was done by -=4ph3x=-. Originally from rFactor I believe. Could be the contentious one, although I'm not sure.

Anyway, would this one be slightly better than the one posted on the downloads section? I've run on it a fair few times without any issues, and certainly not sinking into the tarmac! It's a good circuit to race V8 supercars on Smiley
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« Reply #53 on: December 22, 2006, 11:30:43 AM +0000 »

Server is now running this with GTR2 1.1 patch installed.

I've only run this online with the UKGTR skin pack and so far not experienced any issues.
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« Reply #54 on: December 22, 2006, 12:11:01 PM +0000 »

I have 'the other' Silverstone. The one that shows in the lobby as "Northamptonshire". I think it was done by -=4ph3x=-. Originally from rFactor I believe. Could be the contentious one, although I'm not sure.

Anyway, would this one be slightly better than the one posted on the downloads section? I've run on it a fair few times without any issues, and certainly not sinking into the tarmac! It's a good circuit to race V8 supercars on Smiley

The one in the downloads section is the rFactor conversion... I'll bet those having problems have not installed it to the correct place. Has anyone been silly enugh to unpack the Zip without its internal folder structure, so that all files come out in a single directory instead of "top" directory plus three individual layouts inside it?
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« Reply #55 on: December 22, 2006, 12:15:13 PM +0000 »

First post updated to reflect the server's 1.1 patch status.
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« Reply #56 on: December 22, 2006, 12:54:28 PM +0000 »

The one in the downloads section is the rFactor conversion...

You're quite right. I am a dolt for not checking the version posted in the downloads section - it's the same as mine, albeit with a different filename for the .zip.
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« Reply #57 on: December 22, 2006, 04:30:50 PM +0000 »

I've just tried various combinations of putting wrong things in wrong places but I can't reproduce the bouncing garage problem. I can make GTR2 crash but that's not exactly hard. angel
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« Reply #58 on: December 22, 2006, 05:17:09 PM +0000 »

Didn't put the folders in the right place first of all but no problems now! Put an hour or so of practice in last night in the C5R. Its much nicer to drive, alot more forgiving for me. Managed a 1.49.889 which seemed like a good time tbh???

I've just done a 1:47.375 in the Lambo with the default setup on my first flying lap whilst testing to see if I could reproduce the Beholder/Merlin problem(s).
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« Reply #59 on: December 22, 2006, 05:22:18 PM +0000 »

same thing as me beholder.try timetrial ,my car falls through the ground. Huh
I've just downloaded and installed silverstone but my cars floating and rocking.
I wouldnt mind but looking at the rythm of the rocking it looks like some one having a bit in my lambo.

Can you both start a command prompt, and do the following:
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cd /d "c:\Program Files\GTR2"
dir /s GameData\Locations >locations.txt
adjusting the directory to reflect where you've got GTR2 installed. Then open locations.txt (created in your GTR2 directory) and either post it here or PM it to me... I'm 95% sure you've installed it wrong.
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