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SimRacing.org.uk > UKGTR > UKGTR Races > Topic: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
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Question: Will you take part?  (Voting closed: December 23, 2006, 01:51:22 PM +0000)
Yes, definitely - 14 (29.8%)
Probably (>50%) - 15 (31.9%)
Possibly (<50%) - 6 (12.8%)
No - 12 (25.5%)
Total Voters: 43

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  • GTR2 Super Endurance: December 28, 2006
December 28, 2006, 08:31:41 PM +0000 - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - UKGTR Older
Driver
 Team		 Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Radius
 Racin24-7		 Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#960037) GT1 1 1:41.797
113.489mph		 1 2:01:01.813
101.818mph		 64 1:43.084
112.072mph
Michelin +10.0kg
Joss
 		 Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#3036) GT1 2 +0.026
113.460mph		 2 +2.704
101.780mph		 64 1:42.863
112.313mph
Michelin +10.0kg
Kerr
 		 Ferrari 550 Maranello (#4002) GT1 7 +1.434
111.912mph		 3 +1L
100.647mph		 63 1:44.244
110.825mph
Michelin +17.0kg
FlyBri
 28CD Motorsports		 Ferrari 550 Maranello (#970012) GT1 8 +1.593
111.740mph		 4 +23.357
100.323mph		 63 1:44.247
110.822mph
Michelin +17.0kg
Jure
 		 Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#3036) GT1 6 +1.317
112.039mph		 5 +25.121
100.299mph		 63 1:43.689
111.418mph
Michelin +10.0kg
jan duijs
 		 Ferrari 550 Maranello (#4001) GT1 13 +2.907
110.338mph		 6 63 1:45.160
109.859mph		 DQ
Michelin +17.0kg
Roadrunner
 		 Ferrari 550 Maranello (#4001) GT1 14 +3.265
109.962mph		 7 +2L
98.396mph		 62 1:45.503
109.502mph
Michelin +17.0kg
Munkez
 		 Ferrari 550 Maranello (#4002) GT1 10 +2.537
110.729mph		 8 +34.790
97.928mph		 62 1:45.027
109.998mph
Michelin +17.0kg
silver53
 Team Shark Junior		 Saleen S7-R (#4028) GT1 15 +5.315
107.857mph		 9 +4L
95.550mph		 60 1:47.836
107.133mph
Dunlop +7.0kg
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark		 Nissan 350Z (#990001) NGT 22 +9.946
103.387mph		 10 +20.390
95.283mph		 60 1:51.786
103.348mph
Dunlop -50.0kg
locutos ukgtr
 28CD Motorsports		 Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#780012) NGT 17 +8.495
104.748mph		 11 +22.120
95.260mph		 60 1:50.815
104.253mph
Pirelli +50.0kg
Mooman117
 		 Ferrari 360 GTC (#4087) NGT 19 +8.986
104.283mph		 12 +1:08.437
94.658mph		 60 1:52.170
102.994mph
Pirelli +30.0kg
Don
 Legends Racing		 TVR Tuscan T400R (#980008) NGT 20 +9.477
103.823mph		 13 +5L
93.776mph		 59 1:52.404
102.779mph
Dunlop -40.0kg
Reign Man
 		 TVR Tuscan T400R (#4153) NGT 24 +10.904
102.509mph		 14 +59.293
93.017mph		 59 1:53.201
102.056mph
Dunlop -40.0kg
D_Nichols
 Racing for Yorkshire		 TVR Tuscan T400R (#970036) NGT 25 +11.543
101.931mph		 15 +6L
91.936mph		 58 1:54.310
101.066mph
Dunlop -40.0kg
linco24
 		 Porsche 911 GT3-RS (#3054) NGT 26 +15.023
98.894mph		 16 +8L
89.217mph		 56 1:57.892
97.995mph
Dunlop +20.0kg
John
 		 Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#3036) GT1 12 +2.656
110.603mph		 17 +10L 54 1:45.817
109.177mph		 engine
Michelin +10.0kg
Jeffrey
 Team Shark		 Chevrolet Corvette C5-R (#4108) GT1 4 +0.452
112.987mph		 18 +15L 49 1:42.932
112.237mph		 engine
Michelin -10.0kg
Truetom
 Legends Racing		 Ferrari 360 GTC (#930008) NGT 16 +7.871
105.344mph		 19 49 1:50.825
104.244mph		 engine
Pirelli +30.0kg
Chunky
 28CD Motorsports		 Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#780012) NGT 21 +9.652
103.660mph		 20 +22L 42 1:52.413
102.771mph		 unknown
Pirelli +50.0kg
Bernie Lomax
 		 Lister Storm (#4027) GT1 11 +2.554
110.711mph		 21 +26L 38 1:45.650
109.350mph		 accident
Dunlop -10.0kg
Darren Seal
 		 Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#350453) NGT 23 +10.452
102.921mph		 22 +38L 26 1:52.813
102.407mph		 unknown
Michelin +50.0kg
lincescom
 Sonic Racing Team		 Ferrari 360 GTC (#990031) NGT 18 +8.526
104.718mph		 23 +57L 7 1:51.719
103.410mph		 unknown
Pirelli +30.0kg
james
 Racin24-7		 Ferrari 575 GTC (#980037) GT1 5 +0.883
112.513mph		 24 +59L 5 1:44.156
110.918mph		 unknown
Michelin +9.0kg
stnasky
 		 Dodge Viper GTS-R (#4032) GT1 9 +1.668
111.659mph		 25 +60L 4 1:44.563
110.487mph		 DQ
Pirelli -15.0kg
Dan Minton
 Team RVS		 Ferrari 550 Maranello (#700029) GT1 3 +0.350
113.100mph		 26 +63L 1 2:39.583
72.394mph		 unknown
Michelin +17.0kg

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 283s

At the end of the pace lap, Dan Minton (in third) positions himself so he has a clear view of Radius in the lead, but cannot see the flashing limiter light of FreQ in second. In fact, from the overhead view, he clearly has some overlap with FreQ. Dan goes the moment Radius goes.

This is a clear violation of the starting procedure, and as such I'm issuing an official warning. Dan clearly realises his mistake and appears to think about allowing FreQ to retake second, but then takes the position into Copse.

  • Dan Minton — warning — premature acceleration on the pace lap
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded

Server replay time: 318s

Dan Minton appears to be having second thoughts about his start, and flashes his lights to allow FreQ (and Ruskus, who has got ahead of him) past on the Hangar Straight (running onto the grass in the process), but unfortunately then tags the back of FreQ as they enter Stowe, collecting James and tagging FlyBri in the process and forcing Jure ("Petra Skofic") off as well.

For good measure, Dan then half-spins across the track as he rejoins; luckily, everyone else showed enough caution and presence of mind to get through the scene without a major pileup ensuing.

Update: Dan has since reported that his steering wheel came loose on Hangar Straight and he was busy trying to reattach it.

  • Dan Minton — advice — make sure your equipment is secure before racing!

Server replay time: 3342s

Chunky's mandatory rest stop was a minute short. By convention, triple the difference is added to the race time (not that it makes any difference to the end result).

  • Chunky — short mandatory rest stop — 180.000 seconds added

Server replay time: 4000s

Radius is catching Jan Duijs to lap him as they come out of Club. He flashes him once and closes right up behind as they go into and through Abbey. He flashes again out of Abbey but fails to pull out, giving Jan no real chance to let him by into Bridge, where Radius promptly runs into the back of him.

This was only the second corner after Radius was genuinely close enough to pass, and whilst under normal circumstances he would've been allowed past on the short straight between Abbey and Bridge, it would not have been safe for Jan to slow there with Radius close behind and not further out to the right; in fact, Jan pulls away from Radius during this short straight.

Jan then runs a little too far over the inside curbs in Bridge and slows more than Radius, who has left little room for error, is expecting.

  • Racing incident

Server replay time: 4513s

Reign Man flashes his lights at DMN just before having a look up the inside of him into Abbey.

Flashing a driver who is being raced for position is not normal practice, and indeed most would consider it foolhardy to so clearly announce an attempt at a pass for position.

Had DMN crashed having been distracted by RM's flashing there might have been a question mark of whether said distraction was the intended effect, and whether such behaviour is within the spirit of the league.

  • Reign Man — advice — don't flash your lights to announce an attempted pass for position

Server replay time: 4694s

DMN slows much more in Maggots that Locutos is expecting as he comes up to lap him and the latter runs into the back of the former.

Normally this would be a straight penalty to Locutos, but I'm mindful of the fact that a brief review of DMN's race shows that he was often outbraking himself or running off the track, suggesting a lack of practice or experience, which contributed to his slowness in the difficult Maggots/Beckets corners, and also that Locutos had only a slender lead in NGT. I'm therefore reducing it to a caution.

Server replay time: 5575s

Radius took his mandatory rest stop beginning at 5287s, but ending 12 seconds early at 5575.

Server replay time: 5627s

Beholder is lapping DMN as they exit Woodcote, but misjudges the distance and his closing speed and clips the back of Dave's car, putting the TVR into the wall.

It's hard to be sure, and Dave doesn't mention it in his report, but it sounds in the replay as if Dave breathes off the throttle when he reaches the straight, without giving Beholder a chance to actually pull out to pass him. Certainly the closing speed suddenly seems to increase as Beholder exits Woodcote.

I am therefore reducing any penalty to a caution.

Server replay time: 5730s

Having gone off at Abbey, Beholder finds himself back behind DMN again. Dave lets Jan Duijs by in Brooklands by running all the way to the outside of the corner, but cuts back in as Beholder tries to follow through.

This is an unnecessary incident and both drivers could and should have left more room for each other.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GTR2
NGT		1:49.668
105.344mph		Truetom
Qualifying		 Ferrari 360 GTC
+30.0kg		December 28, 2006, 08:31:41 PM +0000
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GTR2
NGT		1:50.815
104.253mph		locutos ukgtr
Race		 Porsche 996 GT3-RSR
+50.0kg		December 28, 2006, 08:31:41 PM +0000
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« Reply #60 on: December 22, 2006, 05:39:45 PM +0000 »
let me get this right you just drop the "british gp" folder into locations once downloaded?
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« Reply #61 on: December 22, 2006, 05:53:06 PM +0000 »
Quote from: Munkez on December 22, 2006, 05:39:45 PM +0000
let me get this right you just drop the "british gp" folder into locations once downloaded?

Correct, but be aware there are two BritishGP folders, one inside the other one, you need to move the outer one, so that the inner one is still inside it.
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« Reply #62 on: December 22, 2006, 05:55:43 PM +0000 »
Quote from: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 22, 2006, 05:53:06 PM +0000
Quote from: Munkez on December 22, 2006, 05:39:45 PM +0000
let me get this right you just drop the "british gp" folder into locations once downloaded?

Correct, but be aware there are two BritishGP folders, one inside the other one, you need to move the outer one, so that the inner one is still inside it.

so in locations you have British GP........ then inside that British GP, International and National?
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« Reply #63 on: December 22, 2006, 06:33:39 PM +0000 »
Just been informed that I'm going out for a meal with friends on  the 28th Angry, rats, have agood one guys.
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« Reply #64 on: December 22, 2006, 06:41:35 PM +0000 »
Quote from: Munkez on December 22, 2006, 05:55:43 PM +0000
so in locations you have British GP........ then inside that British GP, International and National?

Correct.
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« Reply #65 on: December 22, 2006, 06:56:19 PM +0000 »
Quote from: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 22, 2006, 05:17:09 PM +0000
Quote from: linco24 on December 21, 2006, 10:49:34 AM +0000
Didn't put the folders in the right place first of all but no problems now! Put an hour or so of practice in last night in the C5R. Its much nicer to drive, alot more forgiving for me. Managed a 1.49.889 which seemed like a good time tbh???

I've just done a 1:47.375 in the Lambo with the default setup on my first flying lap whilst testing to see if I could reproduce the Beholder/Merlin problem(s).

1:42.8 in the C5R and
1:42.7 in the Saleen (banana)
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« Reply #66 on: December 22, 2006, 06:57:59 PM +0000 »
I just removed my YES vote, because race start at 20.30
and thats problably the time i can join :'(
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« Reply #67 on: December 22, 2006, 07:12:27 PM +0000 »
Ok, this is what ive done.

I've downloaded.
Then i've taken the outer british gp folder, not the inner.
And put it into locations.
So now instead of the rocking and hovering,
It just quit the game all together and took me back to my desktop.
The 3 tracks are there on the list.
They just wont load now
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« Reply #68 on: December 22, 2006, 07:18:24 PM +0000 »
Just did a 1.43.6 in the 550 ...im sure Ruskus and Jon M will be doing a one minute dead or something stupid!!!! Roll Eyes
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« Reply #69 on: December 22, 2006, 08:13:49 PM +0000 »
Quote from: Beholder on December 22, 2006, 07:12:27 PM +0000
Ok, this is what ive done.

I've downloaded.
Then i've taken the outer british gp folder, not the inner.
And put it into locations.
So now instead of the rocking and hovering,
It just quit the game all together and took me back to my desktop.
The 3 tracks are there on the list.
They just wont load now

That was the symptom I got when I deliberately mis-installed it. Is it possible you've got some leftover files from a previous incorrect installation lying around somewhere?
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« Reply #70 on: December 22, 2006, 08:22:30 PM +0000 »
BTW we will only use the new skin pack for this if it's ready for download by Sunday evening. Otherwise we will delay releasing it until after the 28th to avoid confusion.
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« Reply #71 on: December 22, 2006, 08:35:04 PM +0000 »
Sorry m8

Tried every thing and cant get it to work.
Totally given up now.
Ive just removed my yes vote.
So i'll see you at donington.
Merry xmas
And happy new year

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« Reply #72 on: December 22, 2006, 09:01:33 PM +0000 »
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« Reply #73 on: December 22, 2006, 09:27:00 PM +0000 »
I know I'm probably gonna miss this one but if it goes well do you think we'll be having another? Or even some single make races like you did previosly with the Elise in GTR?
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« Reply #74 on: December 22, 2006, 09:35:49 PM +0000 »
No good dave

Ive just uninstalled gtr2 and reinstalled

Same problem

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