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Question: Will you take part?  (Voting closed: December 23, 2006, 01:51:22 PM +0000)
Yes, definitely - 14 (29.8%)
Probably (>50%) - 15 (31.9%)
Possibly (<50%) - 6 (12.8%)
No - 12 (25.5%)
Total Voters: 43

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  • GTR2 Super Endurance: December 28, 2006
December 28, 2006, 08:31:41 PM +0000 - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - UKGTR Older
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Radius
 Racin24-7
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#960037) GT1 1 1:41.797
113.489mph
1 2:01:01.813
101.818mph
64 1:43.084
112.072mph
Michelin +10.0kg
Joss
 
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#3036) GT1 2 +0.026
113.460mph
2 +2.704
101.780mph
64 1:42.863
112.313mph
Michelin +10.0kg
Kerr
 
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#4002) GT1 7 +1.434
111.912mph
3 +1L
100.647mph
63 1:44.244
110.825mph
Michelin +17.0kg
FlyBri
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#970012) GT1 8 +1.593
111.740mph
4 +23.357
100.323mph
63 1:44.247
110.822mph
Michelin +17.0kg
Jure
 
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#3036) GT1 6 +1.317
112.039mph
5 +25.121
100.299mph
63 1:43.689
111.418mph
Michelin +10.0kg
jan duijs
 
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#4001) GT1 13 +2.907
110.338mph
6 63 1:45.160
109.859mph
DQ
Michelin +17.0kg
Roadrunner
 
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#4001) GT1 14 +3.265
109.962mph
7 +2L
98.396mph
62 1:45.503
109.502mph
Michelin +17.0kg
Munkez
 
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#4002) GT1 10 +2.537
110.729mph
8 +34.790
97.928mph
62 1:45.027
109.998mph
Michelin +17.0kg
silver53
 Team Shark Junior
Saleen S7-R (#4028) GT1 15 +5.315
107.857mph
9 +4L
95.550mph
60 1:47.836
107.133mph
Dunlop +7.0kg
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Nissan 350Z (#990001) NGT 22 +9.946
103.387mph
10 +20.390
95.283mph
60 1:51.786
103.348mph
Dunlop -50.0kg
locutos ukgtr
 28CD Motorsports
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#780012) NGT 17 +8.495
104.748mph
11 +22.120
95.260mph
60 1:50.815
104.253mph
Pirelli +50.0kg
Mooman117
 
Ferrari 360 GTC (#4087) NGT 19 +8.986
104.283mph
12 +1:08.437
94.658mph
60 1:52.170
102.994mph
Pirelli +30.0kg
Don
 Legends Racing
TVR Tuscan T400R (#980008) NGT 20 +9.477
103.823mph
13 +5L
93.776mph
59 1:52.404
102.779mph
Dunlop -40.0kg
Reign Man
 
TVR Tuscan T400R (#4153) NGT 24 +10.904
102.509mph
14 +59.293
93.017mph
59 1:53.201
102.056mph
Dunlop -40.0kg
D_Nichols
 Racing for Yorkshire
TVR Tuscan T400R (#970036) NGT 25 +11.543
101.931mph
15 +6L
91.936mph
58 1:54.310
101.066mph
Dunlop -40.0kg
linco24
 
Porsche 911 GT3-RS (#3054) NGT 26 +15.023
98.894mph
16 +8L
89.217mph
56 1:57.892
97.995mph
Dunlop +20.0kg
John
 
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#3036) GT1 12 +2.656
110.603mph
17 +10L 54 1:45.817
109.177mph
engine
Michelin +10.0kg
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
Chevrolet Corvette C5-R (#4108) GT1 4 +0.452
112.987mph
18 +15L 49 1:42.932
112.237mph
engine
Michelin -10.0kg
Truetom
 Legends Racing
Ferrari 360 GTC (#930008) NGT 16 +7.871
105.344mph
19 49 1:50.825
104.244mph
engine
Pirelli +30.0kg
Chunky
 28CD Motorsports
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#780012) NGT 21 +9.652
103.660mph
20 +22L 42 1:52.413
102.771mph
unknown
Pirelli +50.0kg
Bernie Lomax
 
Lister Storm (#4027) GT1 11 +2.554
110.711mph
21 +26L 38 1:45.650
109.350mph
accident
Dunlop -10.0kg
Darren Seal
 
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#350453) NGT 23 +10.452
102.921mph
22 +38L 26 1:52.813
102.407mph
unknown
Michelin +50.0kg
lincescom
 Sonic Racing Team
Ferrari 360 GTC (#990031) NGT 18 +8.526
104.718mph
23 +57L 7 1:51.719
103.410mph
unknown
Pirelli +30.0kg
james
 Racin24-7
Ferrari 575 GTC (#980037) GT1 5 +0.883
112.513mph
24 +59L 5 1:44.156
110.918mph
unknown
Michelin +9.0kg
stnasky
 
Dodge Viper GTS-R (#4032) GT1 9 +1.668
111.659mph
25 +60L 4 1:44.563
110.487mph
DQ
Pirelli -15.0kg
Dan Minton
 Team RVS
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#700029) GT1 3 +0.350
113.100mph
26 +63L 1 2:39.583
72.394mph
unknown
Michelin +17.0kg

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 283s

At the end of the pace lap, Dan Minton (in third) positions himself so he has a clear view of Radius in the lead, but cannot see the flashing limiter light of FreQ in second. In fact, from the overhead view, he clearly has some overlap with FreQ. Dan goes the moment Radius goes.

This is a clear violation of the starting procedure, and as such I'm issuing an official warning. Dan clearly realises his mistake and appears to think about allowing FreQ to retake second, but then takes the position into Copse.

  • Dan Mintonwarning — premature acceleration on the pace lap
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 318s

Dan Minton appears to be having second thoughts about his start, and flashes his lights to allow FreQ (and Ruskus, who has got ahead of him) past on the Hangar Straight (running onto the grass in the process), but unfortunately then tags the back of FreQ as they enter Stowe, collecting James and tagging FlyBri in the process and forcing Jure ("Petra Skofic") off as well.

For good measure, Dan then half-spins across the track as he rejoins; luckily, everyone else showed enough caution and presence of mind to get through the scene without a major pileup ensuing.

Update: Dan has since reported that his steering wheel came loose on Hangar Straight and he was busy trying to reattach it.

  • Dan Mintonadvice — make sure your equipment is secure before racing!


Server replay time: 3342s

Chunky's mandatory rest stop was a minute short. By convention, triple the difference is added to the race time (not that it makes any difference to the end result).

  • Chunky — short mandatory rest stop — 180.000 seconds added


Server replay time: 4000s

Radius is catching Jan Duijs to lap him as they come out of Club. He flashes him once and closes right up behind as they go into and through Abbey. He flashes again out of Abbey but fails to pull out, giving Jan no real chance to let him by into Bridge, where Radius promptly runs into the back of him.

This was only the second corner after Radius was genuinely close enough to pass, and whilst under normal circumstances he would've been allowed past on the short straight between Abbey and Bridge, it would not have been safe for Jan to slow there with Radius close behind and not further out to the right; in fact, Jan pulls away from Radius during this short straight.

Jan then runs a little too far over the inside curbs in Bridge and slows more than Radius, who has left little room for error, is expecting.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 4513s

Reign Man flashes his lights at DMN just before having a look up the inside of him into Abbey.

Flashing a driver who is being raced for position is not normal practice, and indeed most would consider it foolhardy to so clearly announce an attempt at a pass for position.

Had DMN crashed having been distracted by RM's flashing there might have been a question mark of whether said distraction was the intended effect, and whether such behaviour is within the spirit of the league.

  • Reign Manadvice — don't flash your lights to announce an attempted pass for position


Server replay time: 4694s

DMN slows much more in Maggots that Locutos is expecting as he comes up to lap him and the latter runs into the back of the former.

Normally this would be a straight penalty to Locutos, but I'm mindful of the fact that a brief review of DMN's race shows that he was often outbraking himself or running off the track, suggesting a lack of practice or experience, which contributed to his slowness in the difficult Maggots/Beckets corners, and also that Locutos had only a slender lead in NGT. I'm therefore reducing it to a caution.


Server replay time: 5575s

Radius took his mandatory rest stop beginning at 5287s, but ending 12 seconds early at 5575.


Server replay time: 5627s

Beholder is lapping DMN as they exit Woodcote, but misjudges the distance and his closing speed and clips the back of Dave's car, putting the TVR into the wall.

It's hard to be sure, and Dave doesn't mention it in his report, but it sounds in the replay as if Dave breathes off the throttle when he reaches the straight, without giving Beholder a chance to actually pull out to pass him. Certainly the closing speed suddenly seems to increase as Beholder exits Woodcote.

I am therefore reducing any penalty to a caution.


Server replay time: 5730s

Having gone off at Abbey, Beholder finds himself back behind DMN again. Dave lets Jan Duijs by in Brooklands by running all the way to the outside of the corner, but cuts back in as Beholder tries to follow through.

This is an unnecessary incident and both drivers could and should have left more room for each other.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GTR2
NGT
1:49.668
105.344mph
Truetom
Qualifying
Ferrari 360 GTC
+30.0kg
December 28, 2006, 08:31:41 PM +0000
Uo
GTR2
NGT
1:50.815
104.253mph
locutos ukgtr
Race
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR
+50.0kg
December 28, 2006, 08:31:41 PM +0000
Uo
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Author Topic: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28  (Read 39127 times)
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« Reply #135 on: December 28, 2006, 06:17:33 PM +0000 »

Hi Peeps, Cant get the game to load up with the new patch anybody have any ideas why?
Cheers
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« Reply #136 on: December 28, 2006, 06:24:51 PM +0000 »

Hi Peeps, Cant get the game to load up with the new patch anybody have any ideas why?
Cheers

What does it say? DON'T use the no cd crack!!!!
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« Reply #137 on: December 28, 2006, 06:27:23 PM +0000 »

Hehe...  Cheesy

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Minton
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« Reply #138 on: December 28, 2006, 06:30:59 PM +0000 »

Dosnt say anything ... im using the cd , it just dosnt load
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Minton
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« Reply #139 on: December 28, 2006, 06:49:53 PM +0000 »

Right sorted it.... the patch i downloaded from here didnt work.... just downloaded another patch and it works fine.
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« Reply #140 on: December 28, 2006, 06:50:52 PM +0000 »

I won't be able to make this one after all  :'(

Have a good race people  thumbup1
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« Reply #141 on: December 28, 2006, 08:41:10 PM +0000 »

Made a right old mess of that!!! soz to anyone who got caught up in my brain fade.
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« Reply #142 on: December 28, 2006, 08:47:33 PM +0000 »

I tried to make this one, but despite the amount of 'probably' votes, the server was full..

..Or rather it wasn't.. It was reporting 25/26 players. Everytime I tried to join, I got the 'server is full' message.

And while I'm having a moan - who designed that lobby? Have they ever tried to use it? It's a UI disaster. For starters, it asks you for the password even though the server is full - why not just say it's full straight off? And why the hell does the highlighted server de-select itself when another server is added to the server list? Also, the enter key - why does it sometimes work as the 'yes'/'continue' button, and sometimes not?

These are stupid little problems but they really grate on the nerves when you're trying to join a server which claims to have a free slot! Someone should have fixed those problems in GTR1, and yet here we are - after the many GTR1 patches, GTL, and GTR2 and its patch - still with the same stupid irritating bugs.

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Is there any mileage in trying 28 slots again, now that the 1.1 patch is here?
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« Reply #143 on: December 28, 2006, 09:08:30 PM +0000 »

Said the same for me in lobby 25/26 so i click join and np. angel

Got disqualified for failing to take a stop n go.  Never got any cut track warnings to indicate i had done such.  All tho after looking at the replay the only time i see all 4 wheels on the grass was at that hairy moment on the opening lap with some cars stationary on that fast righthander, ah well.

hope you all had fun

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« Reply #144 on: December 28, 2006, 09:08:47 PM +0000 »

 I had to quit, Embarrassed
 I was only able to see the four cars in front of me and two in the back, I did the pace lap hooping to see the problem solved, I did a few laps but then a Blue flag start to come up and I couldn't see any GT behind me, that was the end of the race, I didn't want to end up sending some one to the gravel. Wink right  angel

 Cheers,
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« Reply #145 on: December 28, 2006, 09:23:14 PM +0000 »

I couldn't get on either and yes I agree with all the moans about the lobby  Angry
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« Reply #146 on: December 28, 2006, 10:17:12 PM +0000 »

Well, I learned alot from this race.

First of all, the C5R is pretty competitive, and second, it burns very well Grin.

Did an okay lap in qually and got in 4th. The start was a bit weird. The guy infront disengaged the limiter, so I floored it as well, but then the guy infront of that was slower for some reason, so I slowed down again, thinking I was too quick with the limiter.
On the straight I was able to overtake two cars infront, one because it was on the grass, and the other because the Vette is faster in a straight line.

At that point I was behind Radius. I was faster in the first part, but slower in de 2nd. So I was following him around for about half an hour, when he was held up by a backmarker and I could pass.

I could then drive away from him slowly, just to lose everything again with overtaking backmarkers. Which takes me to thanking all the backmarkers for great fairness in driving, I had absolutely no problems with anybody  thumbup2. Losing time with overtaking is what makes enduranceraces special and often very close till the end.

My strategy was to do two very long stints with 100L and meds allround. And then before my 2nd stop, I would take my 5min stop to calculate the remnaining fuel necessary. But it didn't come to that Grin. With 30 minutes to go, it blew bigtime lol.

I opened the radiator to 4, but didn't lower the rev limiter. Like I said, I was learning the car. And it could last for 90 minutes, enough for season 5's endurance events Grin. Also because this track has some hard shift points where you shift back while cornering.

The track and car were a blast to drive, shame it ended a bit too soon, as I think I could have won it in the end. I was leading for over an hour Smiley.

 Oh well, loved the idea of these kind of races. Takes some pitstop strategy, but also with the stop, it won't let you end up dead Wink.

Grats to winner
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« Reply #147 on: December 28, 2006, 10:27:24 PM +0000 »

I got this race totally wrong :'(
I only got back from yorkshire @ 7! not enough time to learn the track and get the set up right.
Got the pit stop/rest stop all wrong only did 4 min (didn't read the instructions properly)  Embarrassed
Then the ISP dropped my connection
Oh well  Embarrassed
congrats to the winner's
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« Reply #148 on: December 28, 2006, 10:32:50 PM +0000 »

Yea, nice! After NGT pole and some nice duel with Locutos I made a gap of 15 seconds. Then instead of 5 min I made a 6 min stop!  stupid
Tried to close the extra minute ! gap then my engine gave out. Too bad, I think I could win this one.  hang

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« Reply #149 on: December 28, 2006, 10:43:50 PM +0000 »

Hey folks,

That was me in the lonely silver porsche at the back. Hope I didnt get in anyones way throughout the race, though I know I got in a few peoples way, sorry for the tangles.

Congrats to the winners and podium finishers

Regards
Colin
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