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May 05, 2021, 08:32:07 PM +0100 - Kyalami (1968-87) - UKGTL Season 21 The Top 12 Tracks
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Hristo Itchov
 Turbo Racing
BMW M1 Gr.5 (#51) GTC-TC-76 1 1:16.706
115.516mph
1 47:01.946
113.038mph
36 1:17.383
114.505mph
Dunlop  
Paddler
 
BMW M1 Gr.5 (#16) GTC-TC-76 3 +0.409
114.903mph
2 +2.219
112.949mph
36 1:17.487
114.352mph
Dunlop  
Dimitar Dulichki
 Turbo Racing
BMW M1 Gr.5 (#40) GTC-TC-76 2 +0.135
115.313mph
3 +10.363
112.625mph
36 1:17.805
113.884mph
Dunlop  
MichaW
 
BMW M1 Gr.5 (#40) GTC-TC-76 5 +1.080
113.912mph
4 +33.134
111.726mph
36 1:18.152
113.379mph
Dunlop  
fpolicardi
 Team7
BMW M1 Gr.5 (#51) GTC-TC-76 8 +2.442
111.952mph
5 +1:10.482
110.284mph
36 1:19.508
111.445mph
Dunlop  
Erling G-P
 TEAM-GTLDK
BMW M1 Gr.5 (#53) GTC-TC-76 7 +2.015
112.559mph
6 +1L
109.146mph
35 1:19.422
111.566mph
Dunlop  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
BMW M1 Gr.5 (#53) GTC-TC-76 7 +2L
106.256mph
34 1:20.206
110.475mph
Dunlop  
Daz9
 
BMW M1 Gr.5 (#40) GTC-TC-76 4 +0.944
114.112mph
8 +29.569
105.160mph
34 1:17.930
113.702mph
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
BMW M1 Gr.5 (#40) GTC-TC-76 10 +4.688
108.863mph
9 +29.686
105.155mph
34 1:20.950
109.460mph
Dunlop  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
BMW M1 Gr.5 (#51) GTC-TC-76 6 +1.421
113.415mph
10 +11L 25 1:18.869
112.348mph
unknown
Dunlop  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
BMW M1 Gr.5 (#40) GTC-TC-76 9 +3.311
110.736mph
11 +17L 19 1:20.472
110.110mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Robby82
 
BMW M1 Gr.5 (#53) GTC-TC-76 11 +8.385
104.133mph
12 +30L 6 1:25.720
103.369mph
suspension
Dunlop  

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GTC-TC-76
1:16.706
115.516mph
Hristo Itchov
Qualifying
BMW M1 Gr.5May 05, 2021, 08:32:07 PM +0100
L21TTTT
GT Legends
GTC-TC-76
1:17.383
114.505mph
Hristo Itchov
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BMW M1 Gr.5May 05, 2021, 08:32:07 PM +0100
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« on: April 09, 2021, 02:42:05 PM +0100 »

Championship standings HERE

TRACK #8

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Track: Kyalami '79 Download this

Cars allowed: BMW M1 Gr.5 (pm WT for download link). This is not the Procar so you will need this download if you don't already have this carset.

Race restrictions: Any driver who cannot achieve a minimum lap time of 1:26.0 in qualification setup should not enter these events.

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (10 mins)
Race: 20:30 (36 laps)

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Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit stops: Not Required

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« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2021, 02:25:34 PM +0100 »

Hmmm, that's one ugly M1..  Shocked
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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2021, 12:11:19 AM +0100 »

No server available?
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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2021, 01:51:58 AM +0100 »

No server available?
Thx
Should be Ok now.
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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2021, 09:37:06 PM +0100 »

Results and replay now posted.
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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2021, 10:25:09 PM +0100 »

In all my years of sim racing I have never, ever, witnessed one driver messaging in-race for another driver to retire.

For me it left a very bad taste in my mouth and is not something I ever want to see again.

UKGTL is committed to supporting drivers of all ages and abilities to enjoy sim racing.

Any driver who does not share my view is invited to race elsewhere.
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« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2021, 10:31:41 PM +0100 »

+1 !

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« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2021, 12:32:09 AM +0100 »

Yep, it leaved a bad taste to go on in the race to me too. I imagine the situation, I was involved in one of them last TC race, but I think the problems have to be solved out of the track or giving some suggests before the start of the race.
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« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2021, 08:55:43 AM +0100 »

Can't comment, as either I missed it or it happened after I had left, but does not sound like something we want to hear at UKGTL.

Nothing much to say about my race other than apologise to Daz. Caught a bit too much kerb at Jukskei & spun the car, it slid along the left hand barrier out of the way but decided to veer back onto the track just as Daz was passing. Unfortunately it damaged his car much more than mine. I think Erling got involved too so apologies to him too.

Congrats to the podium guys, far faster than I could manage in this car, even with Hristo's setup.  clap clap clap
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« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2021, 11:41:31 AM +0100 »

I felt sorry for Robby after he left the server because i know how much desire he has to be part of UKGTL. He is giving everything to be better every day and even though there is still a lot to learn he is not someone who doesn't care.

On the other side Hristo is a great guy as well and amazing driver. I am sure he didn't wrote on the chat because he thinks he is special or because he don't like slower drivers. I am sure he only wanted more safer battle for the win.

I think we just need to put this into caution and not allow it to lose drivers because of the incident.

The race was awesome. At the last moment i decided to take a look at Hristo's setup and i stole his camber and toe in settings  oops and i become very fast. I had the chance to fight with Manfred and Hristo now.

On the qualy i was very lucky to be just behind Daz on the last corner exit on my fastest lap and thanks to his slip stream i won 2 tenths that were enough to outqualify Manfred for P2.

On the start i reacted quicker than Hristo and took the lead. We had great battle for around 10-15 laps but i made a small mistake and he was able to dive in for the lead. After that i was just slower that him in P2 and then i forgot to downshift to 2nd and did that in the middle of teh corner which reacted to semi slip. Fortunately i catch the car but lost 5 seconds and the second place to Manfred.

To be fair i was the 3rd fastest car on the track so there is nothing to complain about here.

Grats to Hristo and Manfred.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2RRrAVZkJs
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« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2021, 12:19:09 PM +0100 »

I was curious to see what the fuss was about, so I went through the whole replay, and the only thing that I could
point a finger at Robbie for was the start where he lost it after a good get away. Clive might have an opinion on that one  Roll Eyes
but that's his choice.  The only other contact was when Tony hit him after Robbie had sat off track for a long time waiting
for the leaders to pass before rejoining, he could not have done better than that IMHO. Geoff had to go wide at one point
but even that was hardly a major incident. I could not find any time that anyone actually got in the way, or hindered
the leaders when they lapped anyone. I was lapped twice after throwing myself at the barriers, but I'm not aware
that I interfered with anyone else's race.

Being slower than others, and falling off is not a crime here. If it was I would be unwelcome.
Hristo is entitled to his opinion of other drivers, but we ask that people refrain from chat during qual
and during the race anyway, and such comments are not appropriate at best.
Just my feeling.
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« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2021, 04:23:44 PM +0100 »

As my name has been quoted, I might as well throw in my 10 cents worth  Roll Eyes.
Before I say anything, my pace in these cars was never going to bother anyone.

Yes, I was "inconvenienced" at the start of the race as a blue car ( which I now know was Robbie ) burst through the gap and clipped my front end sending me into the armco on the right hand side. Initially I was just miffed that I had made a "safe" start, without screwing sideways like I had in many recent races, and still ended up nose first in the barriers  Undecided. But that is part and parcel of racing I guess.

Sadly the rather heavy impact with the armco deranged something important in the braking/steering department which became more and more of a problem as I pushed to try and catch the field.
Once the tyres began to wear the handling became more random whenever I tried to catch the cars ahead, eventually I became a hazard to the fast guys who were now lapping my car....so I quit. The coincidence that I had totally lost control of the car and launched myself up a grass bank had nothing to do with that decision.

As regards messages during the race...and especially last night's

I fully commiserate with drivers who have their racing interrupted by members with minimal experience. When you are in the heat of battle and every tenth matters, having to negotiate someone who is seriously struggling to control their car whilst someone else is climbing all over your tailpipes can be very stressful, and things are said/posted in the heat of the moment.
However......I firmly believe that we all have to learn how to race online and it is not an easy transition from racing AI on your own PC to competing against fire breathing aliens on a server. It takes a while to comprehend how they can be sooo fast!!

My own debut on line with GPL was woeful ( some say I have barely improved over the last 15 years!) and I almost succeeded in taking out both the leader and second place driver at Mosport in a single move.

It is rather clear to all of us that Robbie is struggling to get to grips with the pace of GTL online ( I know how that feels) , so perhaps what we should be doing is offering some advice/tutoring/mentoring on the server prior to the upcoming events?. Having watched Robbie I would suggest that he is simply trying too hard and ambition is exceeding current ability, but all of that will improve in time.

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« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2021, 06:38:24 PM +0100 »

Result


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« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2021, 06:56:04 PM +0100 »

... against fire breathing aliens ...

 lol Grin

When looking back on more than ten years of online racing, I have to admit that i have not made very much progress  Sad
My best season in fact was my first one over at GTLDK.
What I've learned as one of the regular backmarkers - also from countless visits as a spectator at the Nordschleife where
laptimes vary between 8 and over 11 minutes per lap in the different classes - is to look more in the rear mirror than on the track.
But that did not prevent from only a few disconcerting incidents over the years.

Still glad to be able drive here.
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