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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2021, 02:43:20 PM +0100 » |
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Was going to say I've yet to visit either despite fully intending to
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« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2021, 09:10:59 PM +0100 » |
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No money to spend here, so Sandown or nothing for me. :/
I tried a bit today, and it's a decent track I think.
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« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2021, 12:05:11 PM +0100 » |
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I'm not willing to put more money on this sim to be honest. If I were prone to spend money for every circuit I'd rather choose another sim, like iRacing. Payware content usually cause a drop in numbers on the grid, and to say the least I don't care at all about any graphic aspect on every sim. For me we could still play at GTR2/P&G without any issue. I used to play those sims with no more than 40 fps until 2015, so you can guess how much I care about the ultra-defined tufts of grass, buildings around the circuit and panoramas.
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« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2021, 01:07:32 PM +0100 » |
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I'm not willing to put more money on this sim to be honest. If I were prone to spend money for every circuit I'd rather choose another sim, like iRacing. Payware content usually cause a drop in numbers on the grid, and to say the least I don't care at all about any graphic aspect on every sim. For me we could still play at GTR2/P&G without any issue. I used to play those sims with no more than 40 fps until 2015, so you can guess how much I care about the ultra-defined tufts of grass, buildings around the circuit and panoramas. Prtty much this. You need 6 here 3 there and so on and after 2 months you actually spent half the price of another sim. I stick to AC cause I love it, though, even with its shameful cons. So I don't count in terms of other sims, but more in the stuff I need for real cars. You're damn right that's likely to lead to a drop on the grid. I think we'd much better to focus on enlarging the grids than to always looking for newly made payware tracks, which sometimes are delivered with some bugs. About GTR2/P&G, man I watched a couple of vids recently and there I can't agree with you. Despite the pleasant nostalgia, it was was just horrible. Then there are 2 aspects : the scenery whose I don't really mind, but the track detail itself which was pretty poor too of course, and this is more important I guess.
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FullMetalGasket
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« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2021, 02:26:54 PM +0100 » |
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I'm not willing to put more money on this sim to be honest. If I were prone to spend money for every circuit I'd rather choose another sim, like iRacing. Payware content usually cause a drop in numbers on the grid, and to say the least I don't care at all about any graphic aspect on every sim. For me we could still play at GTR2/P&G without any issue. I used to play those sims with no more than 40 fps until 2015, so you can guess how much I care about the ultra-defined tufts of grass, buildings around the circuit and panoramas. Nothing to do with how pretty it is (although it is very pretty) - the GPL version is just a far superior track in terms of layout and construction. The payware arguement is the very reason why I have never used a track or mod that requires paying for - even though this means we are missing out on some utterly fantastic mods.. Hence this poll As for Sandown the layout is very challenging and is vaguely similar to the 60's layout - apart from the 2 chicanes it's the same.
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« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2021, 09:15:55 PM +0100 » |
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About GTR2/P&G, man I watched a couple of vids recently and there I can't agree with you. Despite the pleasant nostalgia, it was was just horrible. Then there are 2 aspects : the scenery whose I don't really mind, but the track detail itself which was pretty poor too of course, and this is more important I guess. I guess it's only a matter of habit mate When you're used to low graphics settings you don't notice those details anymore. And don't forget that Aris has been hired by Kunos to do the job for AC physics right after that beutiful creation that was P&G for GTR2. That was surely a masterpiece of a mod! I loved it! Car were super detailed, but add-on tracks layout were sometimes a bit poor. It was also very popluar around here for a couple of years to say the least! @Tim - I know you're a wise man, don't worry
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« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2021, 02:52:03 PM +0100 » |
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About GTR2/P&G, man I watched a couple of vids recently and there I can't agree with you. Despite the pleasant nostalgia, it was was just horrible. Then there are 2 aspects : the scenery whose I don't really mind, but the track detail itself which was pretty poor too of course, and this is more important I guess. And don't forget that Aris has been hired by Kunos to do the job for AC physics right after that beutiful creation that was P&G for GTR2. That was surely a masterpiece of a mod! I loved it! Car were super detailed, but add-on tracks layout were sometimes a bit poor. It was also very popluar around here for a couple of years to say the least! I thought he even had created Kunos, but no idea actually. Yup I was a true P&G fanatic too. Though it had a couple important shortcomings. The tracks themselves of course didn't belong to Kunos.
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« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2021, 07:31:22 PM +0100 » |
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About GTR2/P&G, man I watched a couple of vids recently and there I can't agree with you. Despite the pleasant nostalgia, it was was just horrible. Then there are 2 aspects : the scenery whose I don't really mind, but the track detail itself which was pretty poor too of course, and this is more important I guess. And don't forget that Aris has been hired by Kunos to do the job for AC physics right after that beutiful creation that was P&G for GTR2. That was surely a masterpiece of a mod! I loved it! Car were super detailed, but add-on tracks layout were sometimes a bit poor. It was also very popluar around here for a couple of years to say the least! I thought he even had created Kunos, but no idea actually. Yup I was a true P&G fanatic too. Though it had a couple important shortcomings. The tracks themselves of course didn't belong to Kunos. "Kunos simulazioni" was founded by Stefano Casillo, creator of the sim "NetKar pro" (we're talking about the year 2006, and it was a very niche sim used by nobody ). Aris was hired right after P&G 3.0 was completed, to work on AC physics.
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« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2021, 10:16:55 PM +0100 » |
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Oi! I had NetKar It was frankly amazing at the time, much as AC then was on it's release
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